Im....figthing the urge to not post that Dewey meme about future.
Advancement is necesseary, stagnation is death.
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Advancement is necesseary, stagnation is death.
Generative AI is not advancement and you're as delusional as the tech bros who claim that if you really believe that. It's literally making people stupider using it and completely dependent on it to even do basic shit like think of simple ideas or do basic ways of living requiring your brain. THAT is stagnation. It's literal regression even.
Pick up a tablet and do it yourself and actually develop a skill instead of letting a dumb machine do it for you or commission a bitch to draw it.
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AI is absolutely a regression and not progress. It is simply a way for companies and corporations to replace actual skilled people with a cheaper alternative to produce a lower quality end product for a fraction of the cost. There are places for AI and that is in doing analysis and as a tool for an actual artist doing actual art. Using machine learning assistance to do simple things like post processing or noise reduction or anything like that is a legitimate use case so long as it is a TOOL used by an artist and not a replacement for the artist. It should be used to help create art and not replacing how art is done entirely.
It is called slop because that is exactly what it is. It is concepts fed to a machine and ground up into a slurry of "content" then shit out by a machine with no concept of what looks good or why something is good. AI as we know it will NEVER understand intent or basic shit like desire or empathy. All it can do is google for something and throw everything it finds into a blender that it unceremoniously dumps on the floor for those with no taste to lap up.
Old outdated video but this explains it very well.
It is called slop because that is exactly what it is. It is concepts fed to a machine and ground up into a slurry of "content" then shit out by a machine with no concept of what looks good or why something is good. AI as we know it will NEVER understand intent or basic shit like desire or empathy. All it can do is google for something and throw everything it finds into a blender that it unceremoniously dumps on the floor for those with no taste to lap up.
Old outdated video but this explains it very well.
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"Crude" being your choice of description says plenty about the depth you look at things with.
Speaking personally as an artist too. Pixel art as a whole isn't automatically crude, which is a word I could use for it, but it's the amateur art of it that is. (and when I say that I don't mean that in a bad way, it's baby's first digital drawing medium, everyone starts in MS paint. *waves*)
Professional pixel art or at least any done by people who know how to make it look detailed as fuck is the most uncrude shit I've seen and is a literal flex. "Pixelation is a negative to not have a positive", sounds more like they don't look at the artists that gradient and double-layer shade and all that jazz and even animate alongside those techniques. Look past 2008 Deviantart and there's crazy pixel art out in the wild.
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I liked "heroes of might and magic 2" alot until the 1st ugly 3d models appears in HMM3... then the models got better...
I think it was joke when i hear phone gonna replace PC many years ago... and now...
I still stay with PC for gaming most of the time though... i still hate handphones, but i cant live without them!
Ai is just a tool, a new technology and it will get better.
In the past you stitch your own sweater, now they are factory made.
There are some good looking AI games already in this forum and of course there are a lot more AI slop too.
But as developer learns to use AI and as the software gets improved, it will change for the better.
Real arts should still be hand crafted, but does a game requires real art?
It is definately a bonus for a game to have real artist creating unique arts.
But not all game developer can draw and not all artist will draw for games and time is limited.
For example some say DOL has limited lewd poistion animation in game, what if AI can copy one and create other type of lewd animations?
As long as these new animations are of acceptable quality, and edited by real artist, why not?
Do you really need these pixel animations to be real art?
If Ai can create more clothing types animation for game, you will have more clothings variety to choose from in the game.
Is it important that clothings are created by real artist?
As long as the important aspect of the game are handle by real people, it will be fine.
This is a text game and animations are a bonus.
I am not pro AI or anything and thinks it is better that real arts are handle by real people, and animations handcrafted is better than AI.
But using AI can save time and effort for the less important stuff, and AI for good or for worst is going to stay.
Learn to adapt to new technology or get left behind...
Just like my own grandma... she can only watch while we click on our handphones...
I think it was joke when i hear phone gonna replace PC many years ago... and now...
I still stay with PC for gaming most of the time though... i still hate handphones, but i cant live without them!
Ai is just a tool, a new technology and it will get better.
In the past you stitch your own sweater, now they are factory made.
There are some good looking AI games already in this forum and of course there are a lot more AI slop too.
But as developer learns to use AI and as the software gets improved, it will change for the better.
Real arts should still be hand crafted, but does a game requires real art?
It is definately a bonus for a game to have real artist creating unique arts.
But not all game developer can draw and not all artist will draw for games and time is limited.
For example some say DOL has limited lewd poistion animation in game, what if AI can copy one and create other type of lewd animations?
As long as these new animations are of acceptable quality, and edited by real artist, why not?
Do you really need these pixel animations to be real art?
If Ai can create more clothing types animation for game, you will have more clothings variety to choose from in the game.
Is it important that clothings are created by real artist?
As long as the important aspect of the game are handle by real people, it will be fine.
This is a text game and animations are a bonus.
I am not pro AI or anything and thinks it is better that real arts are handle by real people, and animations handcrafted is better than AI.
But using AI can save time and effort for the less important stuff, and AI for good or for worst is going to stay.
Learn to adapt to new technology or get left behind...
Just like my own grandma... she can only watch while we click on our handphones...
"Deal with the fact your hobbies and skills and degrees are meaningless and you'll be thrown into a jobless cycle of being "replaced" by a machine and stop bitching. It'll happen anyway, just accept your loss of way of living."
That's what you sound like rn bc you missed the point as to why it's shit.
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I apologised if I upset you
I never loved AI, it makes the game slower on my old laptop... especially the type that make use of AI talkes back.
Let me say sometime you "like" to hear:
Lets all boycott AI and maybe the shit will go away.
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