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ViviX12

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Ahh yes the backseat devs who know what is TRULY happening with the project they have no part in and know nothing about. Clearly they are experts in the secret goings on behind the scenes with their power of divination! Clearly all of the messages they have decoded from their anal cavity all point DIRECTLY to the devs being lazy fucks because we dont have a major update every two days. Clearly. I mean what other reason could there be? Surely making content for a game as complex and unwieldy as this is a simple matter right? It MUST be easy because its just text! Any delays must be EVIDENCE of mismanagement greed and laziness!

Stop making baseless accusations and jumping to conclusions. The game is a MASSIVE undertaking with a lot of moving parts so you cant just slap in content. Anything and everything that gets added has to pay the tech debt tax and for a project of this size that debt is massive.
Chill, things are calm. I get where you're coming from but no need to throw the shit yet.
 

MRN64

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Im just tired of seeing the same assumptions and same complaints and same ignorant bullshit posted every page. It doesnt matter what the intent is its just unfiltered garbage. If you want to understand why so many of these projects fail and die you just have to read the discussions that revolve around them because they are all filled with a bunch of people running around claiming the game is "dead" because its been two days since the last release or its "sold out" or "lost its way" because they didnt do something someone liked how they liked it. If you were making something and all you saw was a bunch of shitposting about how its going off the rails and how you abandoned it but wont announce that you have because you want to keep raking in donations you are gonna sour pretty quick.

Its a shame that Vrel doesnt engage with the community more but can you blame him when every time he looks hes probabably slapped in the face with a bunch of entitled people screeching because hes not fast enough or yell at him becuase he made content they didnt like before the content they do?

Ya what i said was pretty aggressive and probably too much so but hell sometimes you just have to point out some things.
 

Westirri

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Im just tired of seeing the same assumptions and same complaints and same ignorant bullshit posted every page. It doesnt matter what the intent is its just unfiltered garbage. If you want to understand why so many of these projects fail and die you just have to read the discussions that revolve around them because they are all filled with a bunch of people running around claiming the game is "dead" because its been two days since the last release or its "sold out" or "lost its way" because they didnt do something someone liked how they liked it. If you were making something and all you saw was a bunch of shitposting about how its going off the rails and how you abandoned it but wont announce that you have because you want to keep raking in donations you are gonna sour pretty quick.

Its a shame that Vrel doesnt engage with the community more but can you blame him when every time he looks hes probabably slapped in the face with a bunch of entitled people screeching because hes not fast enough or yell at him becuase he made content they didnt like before the content they do?

Ya what i said was pretty aggressive and probably too much so but hell sometimes you just have to point out some things.
I understand ur viewpoint completely, i was a lil shocked myself to see somebody say the game is dead cus of 2 months of inactivity when this is pretty typical for Vrell all things considered, I assume whatever the team/community is working on is pretty big since there are talks about a new plantperson LI. Even if its not smth big at least we have a somewhat refreshed Vrel and Co. coming back to the scene. I dont know why people jump to conclusions w/o doing some investigating but i dont think you should be THIS frustrated, i get u tho.
 
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MRN64

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Its just a compounded reaction to seeing these kinds of discussions and complaints lodged at everything i follow repeatedly forever. Eventually the straw will break your back. Its just so damn tiring to read the doomposting about everything everywhere all the time. Just let people make things without harassing them with made up bullshit is all im asking. Its especially bad when people get harassed into burnout only for those same people that complained to start complaining even harder that it officially shut down like it wasnt directly due to their actions.

People try to play internet detective and essentially cyberstalk people in some attempt to "uncover the truth" about what is going on behind the scenes and fail to grasp that they dont have the full picture and are talking out their ass. Like if a guy stops posting on twitter or discord or whatever that he has suddenly dropped off the planet or something. That if he doesnt have a bunch of stuff personally tagged to his name in commits that he has suddenly abandoned the project or somehow exploiting volunteers or something which people have claimed in this thread. Unless you are a close and active part of the dev team you dont know shit so its best to not run around smearing it everywhere.

When a well respected contributor or Vrel himself shows up and makes some comments about what is going on then you can listen to it and maybe play internet detective if the situation warrants it. Until then we all need to just be supportive.
 

gogicz

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Its just a compounded reaction to seeing these kinds of discussions and complaints lodged at everything i follow repeatedly forever. Eventually the straw will break your back. Its just so damn tiring to read the doomposting about everything everywhere all the time. Just let people make things without harassing them with made up bullshit is all im asking. Its especially bad when people get harassed into burnout only for those same people that complained to start complaining even harder that it officially shut down like it wasnt directly due to their actions.

People try to play internet detective and essentially cyberstalk people in some attempt to "uncover the truth" about what is going on behind the scenes and fail to grasp that they dont have the full picture and are talking out their ass. Like if a guy stops posting on twitter or discord or whatever that he has suddenly dropped off the planet or something. That if he doesnt have a bunch of stuff personally tagged to his name in commits that he has suddenly abandoned the project or somehow exploiting volunteers or something which people have claimed in this thread. Unless you are a close and active part of the dev team you dont know shit so its best to not run around smearing it everywhere.

When a well respected contributor or Vrel himself shows up and makes some comments about what is going on then you can listen to it and maybe play internet detective if the situation warrants it. Until then we all need to just be supportive.
absolutely, people should also realize that he is doing this all for free too... it's not like some triple A studio that want 70€ for the game, being little patient never hurt anyone before...
 

Celebrius

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Which mods are best when it comes to visuals?
It's all preference. If you're using the mod website it is easy to see visual changes on the fly with the dropdown menu in the upper-right corner. Just experiment and see what works for you. In DoL+ they've added some new stuff, personally I prefer Hikari+Mysterious, but Mysterious is a bit bugged. Mysterious is new combat sprites (that are pretty damn hot I think), but they don't always work even when the mod is loaded by itself.
 

AlekKino

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my cheat mod has that, it has infinite pregnancy NPC, it store the pregnancy somewhere so game think there's no pregnancy going. it stored until reach 1 day before born. default pregnancy capped at 10.
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Link : source code :
Seems like this is never getting updated?
 

MRN64

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Yeah its almost like discussing something on the place where it is the main and only featured content and can be heavily moderated is just a better option than somewhere you have no control over and is a giant target for drive by shit stirrers is a good idea or something. But we all know that the true sign of activity is how many tweets commits or discord posts someone does. Obviously. Random doomposters say so after all.
 
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X Death

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Seems like this is never getting updated?
nah, i only update it when i playing the game. i did see some error with the UI affected after the game update, but if you want to change it, feel free to do it. the script itself seems okay.
 

Mrbeez

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Thinking the game is dead because it's been 2 months is funny af the usual update takes 1 month and big updates take 1.5 or 2 months and this update might have a new class and love interest as said earlier meaning it's a big update (and the update that added pregnancy took 4 months)
 

Celebrius

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There's a boatload of content in the game and enough replaybility that it rivals extremely popular indie/AAA games.

Even if Vrel decided to stop development, DoL is big enough that I wouldn't blame them. Furthermore, it's not just Vrel working on it. Someone else would probably take the torch if Vrel let them.
 

gogicz

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Thinking the game is dead because it's been 2 months is funny af the usual update takes 1 month and big updates take 1.5 or 2 months and this update might have a new class and love interest as said earlier meaning it's a big update (and the update that added pregnancy took 4 months)
yep, vrel in his blog if i remember correctly also said that the new update is coming somewhere in december so it could be tommorow or in two weeks but it will be coming soon...
 

Monki0

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Thinking the game is dead because it's been 2 months is funny af the usual update takes 1 month and big updates take 1.5 or 2 months and this update might have a new class and love interest as said earlier meaning it's a big update (and the update that added pregnancy took 4 months)
What is that "new class" you are talking about?
 

BroBob1999

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There's a boatload of content in the game and enough replayability that it rivals extremely popular indie/AAA games.

Even if Vrel decided to stop development, DoL is big enough that I wouldn't blame them. Furthermore, it's not just Vrel working on it. Someone else would probably take the torch if Vrel let them.
There's so much stuff in the game part of its unreasonable difficulty indirectly comes from that(although most of it is bad design and poor balancing, of course). it's often impossible to tell which skills and activities are relevant and even important at all, and many of these co-dependencies and connections are not logical, so you can only discover them by poking the game for hours and days with no hints.

Which wouldn't be such a problem, had the game not been balanced so poorly you would often end up with no reward or even a punishment for your efforts. A new player gets completely annihilated by the RNG and all the nonsense, while a veteran player abuses the systems just because he knows them. So who is the game's 100% difficulty balanced around? Probably no one.

Look at two school events everyone will run into. Principal's password random event - 5000 pounds payout earned in 15 clicks, possibly on day 1. Science fair event - requires either weeks of grinding skills and/or exploration, amounting to hours of gameplay - 700 pounds. Is that well balanced? Absolutely not.

Anyone who says the unfairness is the point will be repeatedly hit with defecation-inducing rays. Just because you like bad game design doesn't make it a good design.

The game desperately needs not new features, but a balance rework. The basic difficulty has long since ceased to be a problem to the old players, so you can lower it a bit for the new players without completely robbing them of feats. The extortions and encounter frequencies are hilariously high on 100% for how hard it is for a new player to figure out a way to make money with so many things they could do.

The rewards for events need a rework that makes payouts more reasonable for their time investment. More areas and activities should be locked from the start and unlock later to avoid overwhelming players so much, it's worse than coming back to WoW right now.

And there definitely needs to be a tiny bit more hand-holding at the start to lead a new player to a way of making enough money to stay afloat and have the time to explore and experiment.

Degrees of Lewdity is a game that already has all the pieces required to make it a great game and even more, they are just put together wrong, ending up in the game's difficulty coming not from genuine complexity of it mechanics, but from pure unadulterated bullshit.
 
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