SC_Zero

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Although Changelog will be available apparantley the next couple of days, here a quick overview what I found:
  • Highway Map:
    A lot bigger with new areas, much more enemies, looting points, hoverbikes und a drone site. The map is unfinished though, you can go out the map on mutiple points without climbing or glitchling through obstacles and many water puddles don't have tentacle enemies.
  • City Outskirts:
    More details like objects and vegetation. The trader right at the entrance to Highway moved to the entrance to Swamps
  • Swamps:
    Only small visual changes. One trader was completely removed (the one on the right, when coming from Highway)
  • Traders:
    Reworked enterly. All traders are now named und sell specified items exept the first one on Highway which remains an allporpose trader. As far, as I saw, they can now be leveled up and sell more things depending on how much money you spend. Speaking of money: The all have 125$
  • More lootable items on enemies (e.g. Gun Repair Parts)
  • Some tweaks to the difficulty levels (on easy enemies steal much MUCH less money)
  • New tentacle HA animation
  • New reloading animation for composite guns (maybe more for the lower tier weapons)
  • Some new voice lines for human enemies
  • Hoverbikes goes completly mad on acceleration with permanent boost. Probably a bug.
  • Button V for quick undressing in 3rd person doesn't work anymore. Probably a bug.
There might be more changes, but this is what I've discored so far.
BTW: My old save from V16 works with the crack. I just noticed, the game will crash, when I am typing the wrong ID and click Continue. Other than that, it works for me. For the savegame I just had to rename it in the save folder (AppData\Local\DeltaZone\Saved\SaveGames) to the new name schematic (231101b.sav).
 

Pumpedur

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Yeah, we'll see. TJ888 produced the cracks, hoping he'll find a way around this too. For now, I've deleted it from my computer.

But, tbh, I'm not surprised by dev's decision. IIRC he was on here a while back and he was clearly very unhappy his game was leaked on this site and that people are playing it without supporting it with money.

It's sad though that with it being this early in development and with so many issues still outstanding that he would rather waste time on implementing something as yet-unneeded as DRM than actually invest that time into fixing many of game's issues or providing content that's actually been suggested or requested. What is that DRM protecting? A demo? It's like building Fort Knox only to then put a couple of 5 dollar bills into the vault.

Especially stupid waste when you realize that the game came out with breaking bugs and it DOESN'T EVEN WORK. Hardcore doesn't work, it CTDs before you can even run to the cache... And after testing it for 5 days he somehow missed that... Also, stupid on making a specific BUILD of win 10 as requirement (really? does he not know how many people are still on win 7 and 8?) is bollox.

After all, we must keep in mind that this game is barely at the stage of an old fashioned demo which were once free (before Steam was created and kids were made to believe paying for early access is the god's revelation).
Amen =) Dude, my game versions 15 and 16 just randomly went into “not responding” mode and stayed there until you turned it off through the task manager. Even if I wanted to, I wouldn’t pay for a game that can’t even be played reliably in the latest versions. I’m writing through a translator, so it may be written crookedly =)
 

denri2000

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If he really wants to earn money, then it would be better to add advertising, watch 5-10 advertisements and unblock content, and those who paid are without advertising I'm sure +-5 thousand people play this game, 2 thousand a month from advertising alone
 

jllkfsdj

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If he really wants to earn money, then it would be better to add advertising, watch 5-10 advertisements and unblock content, and those who paid are without advertising I'm sure +-5 thousand people play this game, 2 thousand a month from advertising alone
Or cater to the public more, that's usually how you get lots of traffic, include mainstream stuff into your niche work. Just look at some other devs, the money they get per month, while doing almost nothing after the first few good updates, shit's ridiculous. Devolution is rock-steady with his update intervals, my big respect for that, but he's following his own vision, without taking into regard what the players want. That is usually a path to getting a loyal, but small public. If you want to make it big you need to do some market research and then cater to the most popular choices (though, some would be hard to cater to, like cucking for example lmao).

I'm saying all this without knowing even tiny bit how much he earns, btw. Maybe he's actually gotten rich, I don't know.
 

JoyJoyas

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Although Changelog will be available apparantley the next couple of days, here a quick overview what I found:
  • Highway Map:
    A lot bigger with new areas, much more enemies, looting points, hoverbikes und a drone site. The map is unfinished though, you can go out the map on mutiple points without climbing or glitchling through obstacles and many water puddles don't have tentacle enemies.
  • City Outskirts:
    More details like objects and vegetation. The trader right at the entrance to Highway moved to the entrance to Swamps
  • Swamps:
    Only small visual changes. One trader was completely removed (the one on the right, when coming from Highway)
  • Traders:
    Reworked enterly. All traders are now named und sell specified items exept the first one on Highway which remains an allporpose trader. As far, as I saw, they can now be leveled up and sell more things depending on how much money you spend. Speaking of money: The all have 125$
  • More lootable items on enemies (e.g. Gun Repair Parts)
  • Some tweaks to the difficulty levels (on easy enemies steal much MUCH less money)
  • New tentacle HA animation
  • New reloading animation for composite guns (maybe more for the lower tier weapons)
  • Some new voice lines for human enemies
  • Hoverbikes goes completly mad on acceleration with permanent boost. Probably a bug.
  • Button V for quick undressing in 3rd person doesn't work anymore. Probably a bug.
There might be more changes, but this is what I've discored so far.
BTW: My old save from V16 works with the crack. I just noticed, the game will crash, when I am typing the wrong ID and click Continue. Other than that, it works for me. For the savegame I just had to rename it in the save folder (AppData\Local\DeltaZone\Saved\SaveGames) to the new name schematic (231101b.sav).
Can u share save file?
 

Pumpedur

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Or cater to the public more, that's usually how you get lots of traffic, include mainstream stuff into your niche work. Just look at some other devs, the money they get per month, while doing almost nothing after the first few good updates, shit's ridiculous. Devolution is rock-steady with his update intervals, my big respect for that, but he's following his own vision, without taking into regard what the players want. That is usually a path to getting a loyal, but small public. If you want to make it big you need to do some market research and then cater to the most popular choices (though, some would be hard to cater to, like cucking for example lmao).

I'm saying all this without knowing even tiny bit how much he earns, btw. Maybe he's actually gotten rich, I don't know.
On Patreon it says 6000+$
 

DKOC

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Or cater to the public more, that's usually how you get lots of traffic, include mainstream stuff into your niche work. Just look at some other devs, the money they get per month, while doing almost nothing after the first few good updates, shit's ridiculous. Devolution is rock-steady with his update intervals, my big respect for that, but he's following his own vision, without taking into regard what the players want. That is usually a path to getting a loyal, but small public. If you want to make it big you need to do some market research and then cater to the most popular choices (though, some would be hard to cater to, like cucking for example lmao).

I'm saying all this without knowing even tiny bit how much he earns, btw. Maybe he's actually gotten rich, I don't know.
Or I dunno, like I've suggested here I don't know how many times, to put it on Itch.io (like most porn devs do) with a minimum buy price per download or on Steam (like most aspiring porn devs want to do).

Also still can't access the server, so I guess I won't be playing Delta Zone anymore. Time to look for something new. Its such a shame, it has such great tentacle stuff.
 
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DKOC

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Well, for a game programmer, working in Industry, its not actually all that much. The average game programmer in USA makes $100-150k depending on the studio, so that is 8300 USD to 12500 USD monthly. Course you take off some of that for retirement or taxes, so its maybe 7500 to 10500 a month.

Its why AAA studios have microtransactions. When you have over hundred programmers, working for 3 years, that is about 2.5 million US right there. Then you have artists, writers, level designers, game designers, marketing, etc... and the budget costs easily reaches 100 million USD in a few years.
 
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jllkfsdj

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Well, for a game programmer, working in Industry, its not actually all that much. The average game programmer in USA makes $100-150k depending on the studio, so that is 8300 USD to 12500 USD monthly. Course you take off some of that for retirement or taxes, so its maybe 7500 to 10500 a month.

Its why AAA studios have microtransactions. When you have over hundred programmers, working for 3 years, that is about 2.5 million US right there. Then you have artists, writers, level designers, game designers, marketing, etc... and the budget costs easily reaches 100 million USD in a few years.
Sure, but he's an indie dev making a single game. That's not equatable to a full-time employed dev at a big studio working on AAA titles.

Also, if you look at the expenses by studios, most of the budget goes into marketing and advertising, not to devs.
 

RisenKill

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Sure, but he's an indie dev making a single game. That's not equatable to a full-time employed dev at a big studio working on AAA titles.
You will probably just Ignore/ misrepresent what I have to say but I will still say it:

How out of touch can you be?
Just because he is a single indie Dev (with an animator that he also has to pay for his work), he does not deserve to get payed as well as someone working for a big Studio? Even tough he literally does (mostly) everything all by himself?
Also, about those 6000 Dollars/ Month his patreon makes: That money is given to him by people that want to finance this game! He did not wake up one day and say "Oh man, today I want to make 6k a month!". That money is the result of the work he has been doing on his own for years and keeps on doing. Its not your money that he gets, its the money that other people gave him out of their own free will, because they can afford it to give him that money.
6000? Bruh! Yeah, I don't know what he's then bitching about. The cunt earns more than me, my siblings and my parents put together and my father especially labored outside in freezing cold, winter, rain, snow, etc. Fuck dev then for his greed and whining.
Then how about you go ask your Dad why he did that Job? Did he like his Job? Did he have the opportunity to do something else or get a better paid job?
Again, it was not the Dev that decided that he gets 6K a month but the collective people who like the game and want it to succeed. He is also not bitching about it, that is all you people in here, calling forth the one millionth DRM apocalypse, that did not happen (after all, people here are still able to play it with the same old Crack that is now nearly half a year old).
You talk about the Dev being greedy, but here you are bitching about everything he does with HIS project, while (and I am certain of this) you have done nothing to support the project. You are sitting here, moaning about everything, while playing the result of the Dev's work and everyone else's money, while not having paid anything for it. And please, do not go "I will buy it once it is done", the only one you are fooling is yourself.

If you really would want to help the Game getting made, you would have paid a few bucks at some point. You would be on the Discord, actually talking to the Dev and not in here, talking about him like you know anything about him.
But you did not want to. You choose to do this all day, crying about a Dev taking the necessary steps to add online features to his game.
Clearly, this is all the Devs fault...
 

denri2000

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Вы, вероятно, просто проигнорируете или исказите то, что я хочу сказать, но я все равно скажу это:

Насколько вы можете быть оторванными от общения?
Только потому, что он одинокий инди-разработчик (с аниматором, которому он также должен платить за свою работу), он не заслуживает того, чтобы ему платили так же, как кто-то, работающий в большой студии? Даже несмотря на то, что он буквально делает (в основном) все сам?
Кроме того, о тех 6000 долларов в месяц, которые зарабатывает его патреон: эти деньги ему дают люди, которые хотят профинансировать эту игру! Он не проснулся однажды и не сказал: «Ох, сегодня я хочу зарабатывать 6 тысяч в месяц!». Эти деньги — результат работы, которую он проделывал самостоятельно в течение многих лет и продолжает делать. Он получает не ваши деньги, а деньги, которые другие люди дали ему по своей доброй воле, потому что они могут себе это позволить, чтобы дать ему эти деньги.

Тогда как насчет того, чтобы спросить своего отца, почему он выполнил эту работу? Нравилась ли ему его работа? Была ли у него возможность заняться чем-то другим или получить более высокооплачиваемую работу?
Опять же, не разработчик решил, что он будет получать 6 тысяч в месяц, а коллективные люди, которым игра нравится и которые хотят, чтобы она добилась успеха. Он также не жалуется на это, это все вы, люди здесь, вызывающие миллионный апокалипсис DRM, которого не произошло (в конце концов, люди здесь все еще могут играть в нее с тем же старым крэком, который сейчас почти наполовину годовалый).
Вы говорите о том, что Разработчик жадный, а здесь вы жалуетесь на все, что он делает со СВОИМ проектом, в то время как (и я в этом уверен) вы ничего не сделали для поддержки проекта. Вы тут сидите, ноете по поводу всего, играя в результат труда Дева и чужие деньги, при этом ничего за это не заплатив. И, пожалуйста, не говорите: «Я куплю, как только это будет сделано», единственный, кого вы обманываете, — это вы сами.

Если бы вы действительно хотели помочь созданию игры, вы бы в какой-то момент заплатили несколько долларов. Вы бы были в Discord, разговаривали бы с Девом, а не здесь, говорили бы о нем так, как будто вы что-то о нем знаете.
Но ты не хотел. Вы решаете делать это весь день, оплакивая, что разработчик предпринимает необходимые шаги для добавления сетевых функций в свою игру.
Понятно, что во всем виноваты разработчики...
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You will probably just Ignore/ misrepresent what I have to say but I will still say it:

How out of touch can you be?
Just because he is a single indie Dev (with an animator that he also has to pay for his work), he does not deserve to get payed as well as someone working for a big Studio? Even tough he literally does (mostly) everything all by himself?
Also, about those 6000 Dollars/ Month his patreon makes: That money is given to him by people that want to finance this game! He did not wake up one day and say "Oh man, today I want to make 6k a month!". That money is the result of the work he has been doing on his own for years and keeps on doing. Its not your money that he gets, its the money that other people gave him out of their own free will, because they can afford it to give him that money.

Then how about you go ask your Dad why he did that Job? Did he like his Job? Did he have the opportunity to do something else or get a better paid job?
Again, it was not the Dev that decided that he gets 6K a month but the collective people who like the game and want it to succeed. He is also not bitching about it, that is all you people in here, calling forth the one millionth DRM apocalypse, that did not happen (after all, people here are still able to play it with the same old Crack that is now nearly half a year old).
You talk about the Dev being greedy, but here you are bitching about everything he does with HIS project, while (and I am certain of this) you have done nothing to support the project. You are sitting here, moaning about everything, while playing the result of the Dev's work and everyone else's money, while not having paid anything for it. And please, do not go "I will buy it once it is done", the only one you are fooling is yourself.

If you really would want to help the Game getting made, you would have paid a few bucks at some point. You would be on the Discord, actually talking to the Dev and not in here, talking about him like you know anything about him.
But you did not want to. You choose to do this all day, crying about a Dev taking the necessary steps to add online features to his game.
Clearly, this is all the Devs fault...
Personally, it’s not difficult for me to give him $5-10 a month, this is a pack of cigarettes, I don’t have a card, really without cheating
 

RisenKill

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Wow, $6000!!! And he complains!!! In Bulgaria, for example, people earn $500 a month, work at a factory 8-9 hours a day and on a night shift, and they’re fucking happy. And if we talk about some countries, their monthly income is $200 and their pension is $70. And this is not in some Africa
Again, all the complaining is done by a few people in here, who do not understand what is going on. NOT the Dev.
As far as I am aware, all he (the Dev) cares about is the progress of the Game and the fact that the Patreons get what they paid for.

Also the Dev is not a Employee, like most of us, he is pretty much self employed. It is not unusual for someone that is self employed to make 4-6K a month (if they do a good job in the right field) but they will also have to pay for everything themselves (Office space, Licences, Power, Tools, Healthcare, saving for Retirement ect.). After all that you are usually left with way less money that you can spend on yourself, than you think.
 

Mordona

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Dude, people are allowed to attempt protect their shit. Bitching about someone trying to protect their property isn't a good argument. Granted, I think he is wrong to up the ante on anti-piracy but I still respect the decision, its his property. Its a hell of a lot better than patreon scamming people with trickle or low effort content like some other game and their devs I could name around here.
 

DKOC

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RisenKill There are multiple issues with this mindset:

1. There are tons of non-porn indie games out there, that make less than $100 a month from Patreon, and many of those games are really cool. Would you support them month to month? Probably not. But would you buy their game, when its done, probably yes. Its only with porn indie games that getting money off Patreon is the normal way to get funding; most have to work extra jobs, get a publisher, or hope for the best at Early Access steam launch.

2. There are tons of porn indie games that allow access to game builds via Itch.io or Steam. Like Breeders of Nephelym and Carnal Instinct are on Steam and are the same as the Patreon versions. You just have to pay per build (ie Itch) or pay once (ie Steam).

3. The DRM Apocalypse hasn't happened yet, you mean. Before there was the crack, people had to wait 1.5 years to play the most recent build. The new server architecture will eventually defeat the crack and it will be back to DRM paywalls. It will likely scan the game executable for injected code (how the crack works basically) and then prevent access to the server while that injected code is present. Its how Rust or Conan Exiles or 7 Days to Die, detects a lot of game hacks in multiplayer, is to look for known injected code .dlls.

4. Lots of porn devs have public accessible Discords. I've supported a lot of them on their discords, like Dread Lord Defiler, Beasts in the Sun and Likkezg's server. This is one of the few discords that requires you to pay to be there. Otherwise, I'd have joined the Discord and gave feedback there.

5. It is rarely necessary to add online features to a single player game. Unless its for DRM, microtransactions (ie Lootboxes in Destiny 1), or ingame purchases with real money (ie RMAH for Diablo 3). You generally don't need online features for game saves as even large saves like Skyrim saves, are totally manageable on 256gb SSDs which most users have at this point. You don't need online features for game data unless the data is so massive that it can't fit on people's machines.

6. I only give money to porn devs, if there is significant amounts of porn in the game. This one porn is the backburner, so its nice to see new animations, but its not a dedicated porn game like most porn games are. Like Beasts in the Sun. This game, it needs cheats to play, and I'm not forking that kind of dough over for every build that comes out, when its hard to justify at times spending $15 on an indie game on Steam.
 

DKOC

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Personally, it’s not difficult for me to give him $5-10 a month, this is a pack of cigarettes, I don’t have a card, really without cheating
Where do you live that it costs $10 for a pack of cigarettes? In Canada, you are lucky to get a pack for $15, but its usually more.
 

denri2000

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Where do you live that it costs $10 for a pack of cigarettes? In Canada, you are lucky to get a pack for $15, but its usually more.
Where I chew, the most expensive cigarettes cost $4. average cost $2.5 and cheap $1.5The translator sucks, I'm tired of changing words (I live)This is exactly a pack of 20 cigarettes, it’s not a packet of tobacco.I’m 1$ is 37 here, so calculate how much a pack costs
 
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