RPGM Demon Deals [v0.06.5a] [Breadman Games]

[RandyPhoenix]

You wouldn't be losing any in-game progress up to the point of the end of the previous version.

You won't know what's going on story and character wise, but that's the cost of not restarting.

That's exactly what I told, I don't wanna play without knowing what I should know, I do care about story and development between the characters, as far I remember it was nice and again that's why I told ''wish it wasn't RPMG'' since in other game engines like Renpy you can mostly skip stuff and just read from parts you need.

 

[Count Morado]

As far I remember I can see scenes, but not whole story, so I will be losing some progress I can't remember.

Well, you lost your save. So you missing out on progress is your fault. And would be the same for any game using any engine.

So you have a few choices:

• Speedrun a whole new game, taking a couple of hours to get to where you last stopped playing and then continue on from there to not miss out on any progress.
• Search the internet for v0.04.1 (the first release after v0.03.2/v0.3.1) and start at the new content using the preloaded save slot there. Be aware that you will need to search for v0.05, because old saves did not migrate. But the good news is that a preloaded save will start you at the new content of v0.05.
• Just play v0.06a, starting at new content with the preloaded save, knowing that you won't see the game play for v0.04.1 and v0.05.

that's why I told ''wish it wasn't RPMG'' since in other game engines like Renpy you can mostly skip stuff and just read from parts you need.

You can "skip" stuff in RPGM the same way you can in Ren'Py. That's how I play all my speedruns.

RPGM options: RPGM game play:

Ren'Py options: Ren'Py game play:

 

[RandyPhoenix]

Well, you lost your save. So you missing out on progress is your fault. And would be the same for any game using any engine.

So you have a few choices:

• Speedrun a whole new game, taking a couple of hours to get to where you last stopped playing and then continue on from there to not miss out on any progress.
• Search the internet for v0.04.1 (the first release after v0.03.2/v0.3.1) and start at the new content using the preloaded save slot there. Be aware that you will need to search for v0.05, because old saves did not migrate. But the good news is that a preloaded save will start you at the new content of v0.05.
• Just play v0.06a, starting at new content with the preloaded save, knowing that you won't see the game play for v0.04.1 and v0.05.

You can "skip" stuff in RPGM the same way you can in Ren'Py. That's how I play all my speedruns.

RPGM options: View attachment 3989636 RPGM game play: View attachment 3989630

Ren'Py options: View attachment 3989640 Ren'Py game play: View attachment 3989642

With losing save I meant this ''Old saves (v.04 or older) will not work, play from the included slot50 save or start a new game!'' so no it's not my fault, in RPGM or sandbox game save compatibility should be #1 priority, no one wants to do exactly same things over and over again unless it's VN and you can just skip dialogues without needing wander around to progress. And that ''skip'' thing is not the same as what I'm talking about, I'm talking about VN games, where you can just skip without needing to wander around, etc, not sandbox or RPGM games where you have to do tedious stuff for it along with ''skipping'' dialogue.

I feel like we do not understand each other here, I guess you kind of wanted to help, but I already know things you show, they aren't the same as VN skipping text and reaching content where you are.

And let's say I played from zero and reach where I was, there is still a risk of this happening again in future since DEV did this once and seems not to care about save compatibility that much, so I really don't see point over starting from zero and enduring that pain with the potential risk. And my memory is bit fuzzy, bit I'm nearly sure this save problem happened before 0.4 as well, correct me if I was wrong, but I remember losing my save because of save compatibility before as well, needing to use save provided by the DEV and losing some story progress, etc.

 

[harem.king]

You can "skip" stuff in RPGM the same way you can in Ren'Py. That's how I play all my speedruns.

overall a good picture good. although:

1. that renpy settings picture has auto-forwards set to max which is the exact opposite of skipping.
it set the "delay before next sentence" on the auto mode to maximum amount of seconds.
if you want auto mode to be discount skip then you need to set it all the way left, to nothing.
not that there is any need since you can skip via skip instead.

2. RPGMs that actually let you skip are very rare. This is because it requires a mod to add this functionality to RPGM (while renpy requires a mod to remove it). and most devs can't be bothered with that level of modding.
also none of them have a "only skip already seen text" the way renpy does. because that takes actual effort to program.

 

[Snugglepuff]

That's exactly what I told, I don't wanna play without knowing what I should know.

Then restart.

With losing save I meant this ''Old saves (v.04 or older) will not work, play from the included slot50 save or start a new game!'' so no it's not my fault, in RPGM or sandbox game save compatibility should be #1 priority, no one wants to do exactly same things over and over again unless it's VN and you can just skip dialogues without needing wander around to progress. And that ''skip'' thing is not the same as what I'm talking about, I'm talking about VN games, where you can just skip without needing to wander around, etc, not sandbox or RPGM games where you have to do tedious stuff for it along with ''skipping'' dialogue.

Welcome to the world of playing an in-development game where content is subject to change and can mess with your current saves if/when it does.
Now, restart the game.

 

[Count Morado]

With losing save I meant this ''Old saves (v.04 or older) will not work, play from the included slot50 save or start a new game!'' so no it's not my fault, in RPGM or sandbox game save compability should be #1 importance, no one wants do exact same things over and over again unless it's VN and you can just skip dialogues without needing wonder around to progress. And that ''skip'' thing is not same as what I'm talking, I'm talking about VN games, where you can just skip without needing wonder around, etc, not sandbox or RPGM games you have to do tedious stuff for it along with ''skipping'' dialogue.

I feel like we are not understanding each other here, I guess you kind of wanted to help, but I already know things you show, they aint same as VN skipping text and reaching content where you are.

You need to make yourself more clear if you wish to be understood... you said YOU LOST your save. If this is a problem with English, I can appreciate your sitaution. However, there is a huge difference between how you presented your situation previously and how you now address it.

Even Ren'Py games sometimes have to revamp their variables and save files - making them incompatible. This is a game in development - no, save compatibility should not be #1 priority. You are voluntarily choosing to play a game in development - you should be aware that save compatibility is not always possible. Developers try, whenever possible, to make them compatible - but you should never expect it. Ever. Especially 2 years after the last time you played the game that is in development.

And you did not acknowledge that I gave you the solution to your problem as you have now presented it:

• Search the internet for v0.04.1 (the first release after v0.03.2/v0.3.1) and start at the new content using the preloaded save slot there. Be aware that you will need to search for v0.05, because old saves did not migrate. But the good news is that a preloaded save will start you at the new content of v0.05.

That solves the problem that you state you have.

And, we're going to have to disagree on the similarities of the skip option in Ren'Py and the fast option in RPGM - because they do work in very similar ways. Unless, that is, you are talking about Kinetic Novels that have no choices, no real options, and no branching.

Is there more movement in RPGM - sure. But that takes up so little time. As I have shown in videos on this thread - I can speedrun new content in this game very quickly using the settings that I have shared in the screenshots in my previous reply to you.

You have your solution - anything further and you're just complaining to complain:
Search the internet for v0.04.1 (or ask nicely if someone here can share it with you - or check in the developer's discord) and either set up your save to be used or start at new content using the preloaded save.
After you have completed v0.04.1, you can search for v0.05 and select continue by using the preloaded save in v0.05.
Then, you can finally download and play v0.06a once you have set up your save to be used.
If you don't know how to set up your saves to be used in subsequent versions for RPGM games--- It's been explained in the thread before.
Or you could just download v0.05.5 and select continue by using the preloaded save in v0.05.5 and then finally download v0.06a and continue by using the preloaded save in there.

1. that picture has auto forwards backwards. it set the "delay before next sentence" on the auto mode to max. if you want to skip you need to set it to nothing. not that there is any need since you can skip via skip instead.
2. RPGMs that actually let you do this are extraordinarily rare. This is because it requires a mod to add this functionality to RPGM (while renpy requires a mod to remove it). and most devs can't be bothered with that level of modding.

Gotcha. I was doing some quick setting and screenshotting. Fixed, I believe.

As for the assertions about how they compare, the speed of the changes in text and actions do not look appreciably different between RPGM and Ren'Py.

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[harem.king]

As for the assertions about how they compare, the speed of the changes in text and actions do not look appreciably different between RPGM and Ren'Py.

I didn't say anything about the speed.
I said the option to skip is a mod for RPGM engine, and built into Renpy engine.
Some devs write a mod that removes the option to skip from Renpy. but that is super rare.
Some devs download and install a 3rd party mod that add skip functionality to RPGM.
Thus 99% of renpy games have skip. while only 10%-ish of RPGM games have skip.

This is called the default effect in general.

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in the specific of software. it is called "the power of the default option" (how the default effect applies to default apps. which is why bundling apps, search engines, and so on is such a big business)

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Companies charge each other many millions of dollars to bundle browsers, search engines, anti virus software, and various other programs with their computers / OS / program / whatever. all to leverage the power of the default option. most people will just use what they are told by the device they just bought. not even considering they have the power to replace which browser / search engine / antivirus / etc you use.

Gotcha. I was doing some quick setting and screenshotting. Fixed, I believe.

Yes. it is fixed.

 

[Count Morado]

I didn't say anything about the speed.
I said the option to skip is a mod for RPGM engine, and built into Renpy engine.

Sorry, I misunderstood.

I guess I have not played a lot of RPGMs because the ones I recalled playing have had that ability. Thanks for the info.

 

[harem.king]

Sorry, I misunderstood.

I guess I have not played a lot of RPGMs because the ones I recalled playing have had that ability. Thanks for the info.

Sure...
actually... 90% of RPGM games use Yanflys mod package.
A comprehensive mod package which nowdays has an entire dev team. one who is much better at designing game engines then the actual devs of RPGM base engines. (it costs the dev money to buy btw. or they can pirate it).
Yanfly's mega mods have been a staple of RPGM through every version of RPGM.

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So potentially, a player could just find and change the related yanfly settings. I have "modded" RPGM games before by simply changing the configuration of the bundled (by game dev) yanfly mod.
Like so

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But only if the relevant yanfly module module is installed.
the yanfly megamod is massive nowadays. and is actually a collection of multiple megamods. each affecting multiple subsystems of RPGM. and they are sold seperately. So the dev might have chosen to not buy that specific yanfly mod subpackage

 

[YoungMommyy69]

Is there any news on when new update?

 

[Count Morado]

Is there any news on when new update?

On the previous page. 11,134

 

[hillbilly1]

Will it be possible to avoid pregnancy in future updates???

 

[Count Morado]

Will it be possible to avoid pregnancy in future updates???

 

[Zakko]

Progress Log - 2024/09/01

Better jump than the last few weeks, got through plugging in all the images and animations from the giga-event, all the code for this current event, and the rough art for this current event. I'm in the first few images of it but obviously not enough to effect this log, hoping to have it all done by next week.

Redraw stream tomorrow, EU-friendly so it's 10AM PST, looking like we'll be working on Sabrina and Lucia's meeting in the auditorium scene. Should be fun! Haven't got to draw Sab in game-quality since her update, looking forward to that.

Take care of yourselves, be safe, and have a good week y'all!

- Breadman

 

[beldumgi]

Progress Log - 2024/09/01

Better jump than the last few weeks, got through plugging in all the images and animations from the giga-event, all the code for this current event, and the rough art for this current event. I'm in the first few images of it but obviously not enough to effect this log, hoping to have it all done by next week.

Redraw stream tomorrow, EU-friendly so it's 10AM PST, looking like we'll be working on Sabrina and Lucia's meeting in the auditorium scene. Should be fun! Haven't got to draw Sab in game-quality since her update, looking forward to that.

Take care of yourselves, be safe, and have a good week y'all!

- Breadman
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See all of you in December or January

 

[maremaremare]

the game is not worth it, it looks great and is good but getting 1 or 1.5 update per year is a horrible deal, why not hire more people to atleast push update every 2-3 months, the game has a decent support now?

 

[gamercunt]

the game is not worth it, it looks great and is good but getting 1 or 1.5 update per year is a horrible deal, why not hire more people to atleast push update every 2-3 months, the game has a decent support now?

The game is free bro. You're not entitled to getting more updates unless you're paying their substar subscriptions. Even then they're very transparent with progress and give other content like art work and streams while completing the next update. As much as I do agree with your frustrations, gotta look at it in other viewpoints.

 

[Nullx54]

longer waits for updates loses interest...

True, I don't mind if the updates takes around 3 or max 6 months but 7 and above is where people start to lose faith and the abandoned tag closes in.

 

[cyberdaemon]

the game is not worth it, it looks great and is good but getting 1 or 1.5 update per year is a horrible deal, why not hire more people to atleast push update every 2-3 months, the game has a decent support now?

It's not a horrible deal, it's a Demon Deal.

 

[Count Morado]

6 months but 7 and above is where people start to lose faith and the abandoned tag closes in.

Their subscriber numbers are stronger today than they were last year at this time.

October 3 2023 ​

Today

The abandoned flag on F95 doesn't apply until 18 months after the last release if the developer isn't communicating regularly. This development team does communicate at least weekly on F95, and much more often in their Subscribestar and discord.

Neither appears to be a worry.