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Wafflewaffuru

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Ok i try again.
Why threaten a criminal group? The field talk about the alumbra makes it clear that Chelsy has little influence.
The MC can enchant weapons at once, remembers boobs and can then xy? Without having to practice more than once! So the learning curve is only with Fenriz B. but MC is not developing.
MC has information about Tabbi and Astrid but does not come out with other information that he has from Roy. Action is the key here. Sharing info about the Duke or blood magic curse... ?
It's nice that Chelsy is trying to keep order, but where are we? There you can kill without consequences. So why is he threatening with rank 2 sister? Maybe the mother will never show up?
So why not feed this group with tewilen of intel and try to get them to hunt duke or away from your group Nishi...? Negotiate.... Threatening a criminal group? normally you never leave the room again.
Hope this is better i use translator from poodel...
All I can say is if you expected the MC to solo everything and everyone, and be all powerful I'm afraid you're mistaken. The whole point is to play diplomat, so far. Because he knows he's not going to come out on top in an all out power struggle. He threatened Chelsey's sister to give him time to save Tabitha, because Tabitha can be of use to him. She's also one of the main love interests. Also he knows that Chelsey can reign in her sister if she needed to. So he knew bluffing there would work.
 

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All I can say is if you expected the MC to solo everything and everyone, and be all powerful I'm afraid you're mistaken. The whole point is to play diplomat, so far. Because he knows he's not going to come out on top in an all out power struggle. He threatened Chelsey's sister to give him time to save Tabitha, because Tabitha can be of use to him. She's also one of the main love interests. Also he knows that Chelsey can reign in her sister if she needed to. So he knew bluffing there would work.
YEs but ask youself here. Why he dont give any Info out to Laz or roy or any other. Only pices? Tabbi is Rank 1 so usefull sure... But next is Why his stepsis. did not give any info out where she was? Think about it. And then you try to get Tabbi out of astrid blackmailing what happend ? so finger snip and MC can do it without train... F. baz gains more Learing then mc... dont see any grow in action only combat. so he is weak until end of update. so what now... ?
 

legonix

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YEs but ask youself here. Why he dont give any Info out to Laz or roy or any other. Only pices? Tabbi is Rank 1 so usefull sure... But next is Why his stepsis. did not give any info out where she was? Think about it. And then you try to get Tabbi out of astrid blackmailing what happend ? so finger snip and MC can do it without train... F. baz gains more Learing then mc... dont see any grow in action only combat. so he is weak until end of update. so what now... ?
I'm pretty sure as much as Lazzaro is a decent source of info and a trustworthy, for now, ally, MC does have his doubts on what to share or not with him, precisely because there are still so many players inside the Hearth and unpredictability in it.
Not to mention, while Roy sure is working as a sort of double agent and getting accepted in House Luzato, and being a more reliable source of info from their insides, we still aren't entirely sure of his true nature or motives. Aside from knowing a bit of his past training in infiltration and as a spy, there's not much to him at all either.
I'm assuming with Stepsister you are referring to Nayla? Info on what? I'm pretty sure Nayla was as lost as anyone would be if you would be trapped in that sort of pocket dimension/prison, aside from having to work alongside Miss Arkada herself, Nayla is as lost as anyone who would be gone for that long and then feel like everything went passing by her. Aside from her duties of patroling and working on Sanctus, I'm pretty sure Nayla doesn't know much else from Tabby herself. Sure they are work colleagues and they do hang out every now and then, but like the full truth of Tabby's nature is still a mystery to her.
It's not so much a matter of snapping fingers and bam, things get done. If things weren't so messed up in the Hearth as they are in the first place, it would be very different. And, it's not like we haven't had training or did you completely miss that ENTIRE HORRIBLE painful nightmareish segment of us cutting our fingers, and slashing our arm just for the sake of "training" in this case, the regenerative ability of Bazrel's Vim?
True, Bazrel has been training, but it wasn't a thing until this very last/current update when he fully started getting into training his spirit and testing it to become more effective in battles and potential ambushes from powerful enemies.
Also you have to remember ANY way for magic or an aura to show, especially something like the one Bazrel has and it's a surefire way for anything and anyone wanting our heads. It's not so much being "weak" per se in the current circumstances, but more so trying to be careful and cautious, not only because to not die, but also because the Hearth, in any minute after future updates and by the end of this chapter might explode, in the sense of real shit happening, or more than it that hasn't already happened which could topple things altogether on our heads. We will only see when we get there.
 
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Content: Quite a lot
Pacing: steady
Plot line:
Corrupt/Criminal School/World - gangs - serial killers - murders - organizations - demons - discrimination - MC revenge story - MC rallies people to his cause

Character Models:
Quite OK during interactions - could be improved for some H-scenes
Personalities:
Main Charm of the game - well defined - everyone got quite the backstory

Music:
really badass
Animation:
could be improved

Thoughts: Fight scenes don't have to be animated. You can also get really good ones just by adding more images to show more moves. Don't get me wrong, I love what you're doing so far. Good Luck.
 

Sarukami

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Can someone just make it easy for me...and tell me how the hell do I start the event with the "Dinner with the Ivlog sisters"...I feel like I am just stuck in a loop...with some girls the game telling me no more events...but stuck with others (Tabitha, Kalista, Nyla, etc.). Thank you for any answer I get~
 
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Can someone just make it easy for me...and tell me how the hell do I start the event with the "Dinner with the Ivlog sisters"...I feel like I am just stuck in a loop...with some girls the game telling me no more events...but stuck with others (Tabitha, Kalista, Nyla, etc.). Thank you for any answer I get~
I feel you haha. Actually, that event is close to the last thing that will happen.
Instead of just going to girl locations, I recommend moving around the city manually sometimes if you get stuck. Like that you can access places like the cafeteria or the casino.
The place with most events is basically the bar btw.
 

Konvel

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Can someone just make it easy for me...and tell me how the hell do I start the event with the "Dinner with the Ivlog sisters"...I feel like I am just stuck in a loop...with some girls the game telling me no more events...but stuck with others (Tabitha, Kalista, Nyla, etc.). Thank you for any answer I get~
Might be playing an older version with the event trigger bugged, check itch or Discord for the latest version. At that point, you can speak with Nyla or Finley in the evening to start the event.
 

Craigdon97

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what did people choose when astrid asked us to join her? on one hand i aint letting her use me and she may be a li but i cant really trust her on the other had tho seem like a good plan to gain her support against the king
 
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Illuminati00

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what did people choose when astrid asked us to join her? on one hand i aint letting her use me and she may be a li but i cant really trust her on the other had tho seem like a good plan to gain her support against the king
I refused. Might have been the wrong choice, might have been the right choice, but I refuse to have anyone else above me (as well as refuse to give Astrid anything, there are really few characters that I despise so much as I do her.). While it might complicate matters in the future, I cannot see the game making such an offer extremely game-changing. Nothing has really come out of this choice yet.
 

legonix

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I decided to go for both choices once the situation appeared, although from what I remember, there are multiple instances of showing your disdain/will to resist joining/siding with Astrid. And, while true she's probably one of the more enigmatic and twisted characters I've seen at least on any adult game, heck even media in general, a part of me (hence my choice) wants to see where she goes. Oh I'm absolutely aware I might get screwed in the end, but for the time being, nothing too bad or notable has happened, in my end, of choosing to join her/work with her as partners. Time will tell how royally fucked I am by my choice, or in some way, maybe convince her to stop her acting for good. Although given how complex Astrid is, I heavily doubt it.
 
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Illuminati00

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I was also intrigued by her story, I really want to know what would happen, though looking at how she not only have played us, but also people that are suppose to be close to her, I really see no good end in sight. But such a choice is small and most likely fairly irrelevant looking at the bigger picture. There will be more important choices, I doubt any of us will get fucked by this choice. Couldn't find myself making another save, felt like it would be much playing two at the same time.
 
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legonix

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Unless something drastic ends up happening down the line that, either forces, or makes Astrid change (not as in a complete 180°) her perspective just enough, but maybe still be well her twisted, shrewd way, she maybe can get something "good" (or as closest to good as we can with her). But I do agree, that yeah I find it hard to find anything ending well with her, again if nothing huge changes to where she completely sees and how she approaches the other parties/characters in question.
 

RodrigoOSan

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Unless something drastic ends up happening down the line that, either forces, or makes Astrid change (not as in a complete 180°) her perspective just enough, but maybe still be well her twisted, shrewd way, she maybe can get something "good" (or as closest to good as we can with her). But I do agree, that yeah I find it hard to find anything ending well with her, again if nothing huge changes to where she completely sees and how she approaches the other parties/characters in question.
I think the only way for her to change is for her to lose the power she has with House Luzatto. If the developer wants to show the good side of Astrid, they really need to turn the power creep on her and make her vulnerable. She see others as pawns of her own game, it would be interesting show her that she's actually been used the whole time by someone more powerful.
 

Wafe

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Any update on next release?
Konvel has posted an update in his discord which explains exactly the final tasks he has for the update, as well as a very general expectation as for when he will finish, knowing that estimates often go poorly.

In summary, just about finished the final scenes, has to put them all in renpy, add the side content, and add new features.
Aims to release it ideally before the 21st.

If you want more information, join the discord and the Patreon, every little bit of support helps.
 

legonix

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Been checking his patreon page religiously almost, every day, and no new update on it so far. So who knows.
 

anyusername

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I am not a fan of branching paths in an incomplete sandbox game.
I was enjoying this up until the point I had to commit to an unknown future.

Currently it looks like allying gives you one extra scene/character, but it's not clear what disadvantages it is going to have later.
If it wasn't sandbox, then I could at least load back and ctrl skip through the rest when a later release makes the consequences clear.
Currently the 'best' option seems to be cheat.
Ally now and get the scene, then console hack the alliance flag back to false if I change my mind later.
 
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