This forum's moral code is also very different from the real world in my experience. I have the suspicion that male and female characters are only considered differently, because every woman is a potential LI. I don't think people really care about how depraved a game gets, as long as the LIs are savely impaled on the MC's dick.We've had the "that's too much/too far" conversation several times.. And it's never about the guys who get butchered.
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And yes, we are aware that we're in a bit of a grey area and that in the real world, half of what happens in the game would be seen as questionable if not straight up illegal.
Don't you think the people searching for games containing rape content are missing out, if they can't find this game? Smashing faces into rocks before fucking them should be right up their alley.As a pervert who likes it, I don't think this game yet needs a rape tag.
I base this on the emotional response from the "victims" or the lack of that, to be precise.
They all did stupid things and it bite their asses.
In my opinion the rape tag is warranted even if only for the first scene (raping the asian raider girl after killing her buddies) even though it's optionnal.As a pervert who likes it, I don't think this game yet needs a rape tag.
I base this on the emotional response from the "victims" or the lack of that, to be precise.
They all did stupid things and it bite their asses.
It's not fucked up. Rape play and rape isn't the same thing. You really can't rape the willing in fiction.In my opinion the rape tag is warranted even if only for the first scene (raping the asian raider girl after killing her buddies) even though it's optionnal.
And I've no problem with it. But saying it's not rape because the victim liked it is a bit fucked up
If we must look at it seriously...Don't you think the people searching for games containing rape content are missing out, if they can't find this game? Smashing faces into rocks before fucking them should be right up their alley.
I really don't care about the three letters as much you seem to, but I will mention that MCs don't have to be hunky red pill doms as you describe them. I'm just saying that with the growing trend of weak shotas, it's refreshing to see an MC who is the polar opposite. Maybe we are just noticing different trends in the games coming out, but I think there are far less of the powerful MCs than the weak ones.People probably wouldn't care much, if in the next update there was a revelation that the queen is running a death camp for mutants, as long as the sexy ones could be saved into the MC's harem. But imagine the MC's master coming back and making a move on his women. He'd be seen as worse than Hitler.
People talk about pushing boundaries, when ironically the biggest boundary is that the MC absolutely has to be a hunky redpilled dom in every single interaction of every single game on this site, or else there'll always be somebody whining about it.
Are you sure it's because it was tagged here ? Did the guy at patreon say that ? You should remove the incest tag then...The latest I've seen float by was someone who's patreon got blocked because his game had the rape tag on here.
If the board of review at patreon can't be arsed to do their job anymore and base their decisions on whether content they haven't actually looked at should be banned purely on what that content is classified as on what is, essentially, a website dedicated to pirating the very same content that is their source of revenue as much as it is the creator's... I'd rather not have the tag assigned arbitrarily and then Z getting booted off the platform because of it.
Add to that what the trade-off would be even if the patreon issue was a non issue...
The nr of people who go out of their way to look for straight up rape on here are a subset, however large, of the total. Off them, only a small fraction will be stepping up and become a supporter of the game. So for the relatively minor benefit of a handful more supporters, we get a tag that is questionable in its relevance and risks inducing expectations of the kind of content that we actually don't want to offer.
If murder and rape is the norm in this game's world, it's still murder and rape. And again I've no problem with it, I'm not offended by that, it's just fiction1) Asha at the beginning... she challenges Z and loses the challenge. As such, she is fair game and she knows this, even, in her particular case, accepts this finding herself gratified by the submission. This is consistent with the winner takes all ethos of the setting. This also establishes a precedent for the player, to understand the kind of morale that rules the setting and the mindframe of the characters.
2) Kyra... of the 3, this is the one where I personally struggle the most with, in relation not so much with internal consistency of the game, but in relation to real world parallels with imprisoned women being taken and abused (my grandmother spent her teenage years in a Japanese concentration camp, so she would probably not appreciate me getting even tangentially involved with putting out a similar scenario)... That said, if the only reason was her being unconscious at the start of the act, I would invite all of you to raise your hand if you have ever woken up frisky and started playing with your partner when they were still fully or half asleep.... I'm sure some will have appreciated it and others will have kicked you in the nuts, but... is that rape too?
I agree however that compounding that with her being a prisoner does plunge that scene in a massive grey area.... then again, in Zeta, prisoners and slaves can expect nothing less.. and that's just how the setting sees it (and most people don't have a big problem with it when the chubby guy at the start is beating on his slave, so I guess that the overall vibe of the setting is fairly clear).
3) the Queen's prisoner. I have 0 issues with that... there is no grey area, corporal punishment is pretty much par for the course in a setting like this, explicitly so, as we have established with the existence of slavery, with the butchering of the market raider and so on... that it takes on a sexual component is again, part of the hyper sexualised culture Zeta is part of... then again, it happens exactly the same way with Ain's punishment too.
People love gore, but frown upon sex, and not even unwilling sex, just sex in general. It's frowned upon in movies for some reason but gore is perfectly fine.I object... we mos't definitely are not doing anything humorous whatsoever!
On a sidenote... I have yet to read any words of outrage over the queeen barbequing a prisoner alive after having stabbed him in the eye.
I wonder why that is. Why is nobody protesting the fate of Randolph, the random randy raider?
Poor Randolph though...People love gore, but frown upon sex, and not even unwilling sex, just sex in general. It's frowned upon in movies for some reason but gore is perfectly fine.
Yet if you see two people having sex irl you wouldn't be scarred for life. But you would be if you saw someone getting decapitated right in front of you.
That's pretty much verbatim what I read in the screenshot I saw float by...which was at least 3rd hand, so... but yes.Are you sure it's because it was tagged here ? Did the guy at patreon say that ? You should remove the incest tag then...
well... let's hope you're right, then.It looks like this thread isn't managed by the game developer, so rape/incest tags shouldn't get the developer into trouble with Patreon.
It would be another thing if the developer officially advertised it as having rape/incest, because Patreon forbids doing that even if it isn't posted on their platform.
Well I did kinda cringe a lil when he had the sword impaled through him and he was still alive after that. Wouldn't have it any other way though.Poor Randolph though...
We've got to be careful, or the three letters will yet again derail another discussion.I really don't care about the three letters as much you seem to, but I will mention that MCs don't have to be hunky red pill doms as you describe them. I'm just saying that with the growing trend of weak shotas, it's refreshing to see an MC who is the polar opposite. Maybe we are just noticing different trends in the games coming out, but I think there are far less of the powerful MCs than the weak ones.
Maybe I'm mistaken but I believe the stalker daughter is off limits for the mc. The dialogue and the actions (massage and living room etc) point that she is not to be fucked by the mc...Am I missing any good content if I don't have sex with my stalker daughter?
The queen seemed very disappointed when I told her (in the bathhouse scene at the end of the current version).
That's right You can't fuck Shani as of now, but I think that's only a matter of time. There are clues in their dialogue that it will happen sooner rather than later.Maybe I'm mistaken but I believe the stalker daughter is off limits for the mc. The dialogue and the actions (massage and living room etc) point that she is not to be fucked by the mc...
I don't know if that will change after her quest but as for now...
You can rub your cock on her ass, then you stop, leave and use your maid or wife to finish. Both options are hot respectively.Are you saying you can't actually fuck her in the massage scene?
I believe there was an option to do so, but I didn't pick it and now I can't find the scene again.
I actually quite enjoy the conflict within the protag. On one hand he has the hots for his firstborn daughter on the other hand he feels it would compromise her training, their relationship and her status as his heiress. The struggle makes the eventual payoff so much more worth it.You can rub your cock on her ass, then you stop, leave and use your maid or wife to finish. Both options are hot respectively.
P.s. I wasn't saying it will never happen, just as of pre quest she is off limits for sex.
Wait? You can have sex with the daughters? I only got a BJ from the younger daughter and that itsAm I missing any good content if I don't have sex with my stalker daughter?
The queen seemed very disappointed when I told her (in the bathhouse scene at the end of the current version).
But, on yet another hand, what does that even mean? Apparently stalkers aren't required to be virgins and it's not like anybody else cares about who's fucking who.I actually quite enjoy the conflict within the protag. On one hand he has the hots for his firstborn daughter on the other hand he feels it would compromise her training, their relationship and her status as his heiress.