Ren'Py Desert Stalker [v0.16c] [Zetan]

[varage]

Hate to say it - but that is how life works. You get handed a couple of cards and some are good and some are bad. Without the bad stuff you will never learn to appreciate the times you get the good cards. You people throw acronyms at each other like there is no tomorrow instead of just enjoying the good content and ignore the rest. Believe me - you reach a level of satisfaction pretty quickly once you understand that.

I understand what your saying my whole point on this subject is this is a good diverse game and I'm hoping its diversity continues as it's the number 2 best game on my entire list of games and I'd love for it to be at it's best that's all.

 

[Enigmanic]

Hate to say it - but that is how life works. You get handed a couple of cards and some are good and some are bad. Without the bad stuff you will never learn to appreciate the times you get the good cards. You people throw acronyms at each other like there is no tomorrow instead of just enjoying the good content and ignore the rest. Believe me - you reach a level of satisfaction pretty quickly once you understand that.

Whoever starts the game thread has a responsibility to apply the appropriate tags. They should be properly informed before placing tags.

 

[Hildegardt]

The fanatical need to create one's little niche is a very modern illness. I grew up in times where house music was just that. Nowadays people try to have 30 subgenres just to feel 'special'. We are dealing with modern media here - skip shit if it doesnt talk to you. Like flipping pages forward in a book if you think its boring. Why this fanatical need to have everything individualized to the last dot?

It's the weebs, dude. I never understood why we need to use hentai tags for stuff that isn't hentai. Desert Stalker is the perfect example to show that these tags just don't fit at all.
I don't see how a cuckold tag wouldn't be much more descriptive than the dreaded ntr tag. Not saying that this game needs a cuckold tag, but sharing, swinging and the absence of cuckold describes this game perfectly. There wouldn't even be a discussion, if people didn't try to use their hentai mold for everything.
This game also features a harem, which doesn't fit the usual hentai highschool drama style.

 

[varage]

It's the weebs, dude. I never understood why we need to use hentai tags for stuff that isn't hentai. Desert Stalker is the perfect example to show that these tags just don't fit at all.
I don't see how a cuckold tag wouldn't be much more descriptive than the dreaded ntr tag. Not saying that this game needs a cuckold tag, but sharing, swinging and the absence of cuckold describes this game perfectly. There wouldn't even be a discussion, if people didn't try to use their hentai mold for everything.
This game also features a harem, which doesn't fit the usual hentai highschool drama style.

That is a very good point as well. I'd say as of current content Sharing over swinging unless however unlikely this may be as your character VEHIMENTALLY hates the stepsisters husband I don't think you'll be delivering Zahra to him for time with his wife. But Sharing covers the scene with your friend in the living area. Unless theres a scene i missed where you swap with someone that i don't remember/know of.
Unless of course Zetan changes dialog so you can actually be friendly with her husband but as of now they are both disdainful interactions with him.

 

[toolkitxx]

Whoever starts the game thread has a responsibility to apply the appropriate tags. They should be properly informed before placing tags.

Well - let me educate you then too. Please make a single and distinct tag for 'Lolita' by Nabokov. You cant. Experts have debated for decades now and still havnt concluded a common definition. And we talk about real literature here. There are tags and they leave room for interpretation - so what? You act like the world is coming down due to that - it is not

 

[varage]

Well - let me educate you then too. Please make a single and distinct tag for 'Lolita' by Nabokov. You cant. Experts have debated for decades now and still havnt concluded a common definition. And we talk about real literature here. There are tags and they leave room for interpretation - so what? You act like the world is coming down due to that - it is not

Well yes you can't but you would never see it misused and if it was it would be completely unnoticable nor debatable so i don't understand how anyone debates it. Anyone under the age of consent in the location where the product was created seems most logical stance to take.
Not to mention preveiw pics kinda bury the lead in most cases if you're definition of lolita is like 12 and under or someshit. or Banner that usually has the female roles Love interests within.

 

[varage]

Also if you go by the standard Lolita definition based on novel i'd say 12 and under as that girl was the entire reason lolita exist in the first place. So the only two debates worth salt is Vladimir Nabokov's the creator of the words definition 12, or under of age of concent.

 

[toolkitxx]

Also if you go by the standard Lolita definition based on novel i'd say 12 and under as that girl was the entire reason lolita exist in the first place. So the only two debates worth salt is Vladimir Nabokov's the creator of the words definition 12, or under of age of concent.

You still missed the point. The important point was that even world literature isnt safe from being unable to be set into clear defined categories. If that was too complicated i use a different eample: You will find the category asian or amateur on every single porn tube side nowadays. Do they mean the same? Shit no. In amateur you find more professional porn than ever and asian covers everything from India to Alaska nowadays. Does the world turn slower or is that so relevant that it requires endless discussions ? No. There is beauty in picking up the wrong book or watching a movie without knowing what you get - it might even be a positive surprise.
Simply treat NTR tag as asian from my example and you will sleep a lot better

 

[Enigmanic]

You still missed the point. The important point was that even world literature isnt safe from being unable to be set into clear defined categories. If that was too complicated i use a different eample: You will find the category asian or amateur on every single porn tube side nowadays. Do they mean the same? Shit no. In amateur you find more professional porn than ever and asian covers everything from India to Alaska nowadays. Does the world turn slower or is that so relevant that it requires endless discussions ? No. There is beauty in picking up the wrong book or watching a movie without knowing what you get - it might even be a positive surprise.
Simply treat NTR tag as asian from my example and you will sleep a lot better

It's still a matter of morons using tags incorrectly. Citing your own example, posting professional porn in the amateur category is wrong. Whoever posted professional porn in the amateur category is wrong. People need to take responsibility for their ignorance. Posting content under the wrong tag or category does not amend the definition of that tag or category. It just means the poster is an idiot.

 

[varage]

You still missed the point. The important point was that even world literature isnt safe from being unable to be set into clear defined categories. If that was too complicated i use a different eample: You will find the category asian or amateur on every single porn tube side nowadays. Do they mean the same? Shit no. In amateur you find more professional porn than ever and asian covers everything from India to Alaska nowadays. Does the world turn slower or is that so relevant that it requires endless discussions ? No. There is beauty in picking up the wrong book or watching a movie without knowing what you get - it might even be a positive surprise.
Simply treat NTR tag as asian from my example and you will sleep a lot better

Yes, yes you're right chaos is the only way we UNDERSTAND your veiw point. But I'm not on the side that accepting the chaos and not trying to make it better is the way to go I for one am more on the side of the man you upvoted a few posts ago do away with the weeb NTR tag and stick to english on a mostly english site. Such as Cockolding shareing free use etc. That would help alot because weebs aren't trying to teach OLD people new things and it changing from ear to mouth every two minutes. Because most people know english here.

 

[toolkitxx]

It's still a matter of morons using tags incorrectly. Citing your own example, posting professional porn in the amateur category is wrong. Whoever posted professional porn in the amateur category is wrong. People need to take responsibility for their ignorance. Posting content under the wrong tag or category does not amend the definition of that tag or category. It just means the poster is an idiot.

And yet I am very sure you have never raised your voice in a porn channel like you do here

 

[Enigmanic]

And yet I am very sure you have never raised your voice in a porn channel like you do here

That's what the vote system and the comments section is for.

 

[toolkitxx]

That's what the vote system and the comments section is for.

Well - i hope you never make any moron' mistakes then in public. As i am pretty sure karma wont treat you nicely either then.

 

[Yngling]

As only a Beta can be NTR'd

That's complete bullshit.

The MC is away for long periods of time, there would not be unheard of if the wife would be looking for some loving outside the marriage in that case.

I'm sure that this won't feature in this particular game (hope not at least) though.

However, what happened between the older daughter / female MC and the Queen, could actually be construed as actual NTR. Except that there is no sexual relationship between the older daughter and the MC at that point.

Making your girl service others is a power alpha trip. Not a your a cuck weakling trip. It's showing her that you own her and she does what you say I mean.

I somewhat understand this position, but still don't agree though.

 

[Ifartedtoolong]

I'm actually hoping that Shani and the queen do get it on as there does seem to be some tension and seducing going on.

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

I'm actually hoping that Shani and the queen do get it on as there does seem to be some tension and seducing going on.

I'm cool with that, so long as I get to avoid it in my playthrough

 

[varage]

That's complete bullshit.

The MC is away for long periods of time, there would not be unheard of if the wife would be looking for some loving outside the marriage in that case.

However, what happened between the older daughter / female MC and the Queen, could actually be construed as actual NTR. Except that there is no sexual relationship between the older daughter and the MC at that point.

My position is far worse then you think What happened between queen and Shani in no way shape or form coulda been considered NTR even if Queen went down on her and fucked her with a strap on why? Exactly what you said no sexual relationship with her existed.

Two you're equating cheating with NTR and thats not my definition. Your WIFE would not leave the most influential man in all of Zaten for some booty call she fucks while you're out working also if she did she'd be risking her life quite literally.(because it's against the law of Zetan) That's my point. You see if someone was going to NTR MC he'd have to be able to overpower MC disable him and take what is his. He would have to be present. in the city at the time that the cheating occurs for it to be legal. It's illegal to touch what belongs to a desert stalker of the queen while he's away.

But the law of the land is MIGHT makes right so if MC is present overpowered and disabled what is his could be taken from him. I'm just saying lonely housewife story doesn't work in this scenario unless both Zahra and the perpetrator have death wishs. Not just from MC himself but also the Queen of Zatan.

Now could the Queen NTR you? Yes but only her. And I'm pretty sure Zotan wouldn't stand idly by and allow it because he's not a Beta he'd die before he let that happen.

Having your wife step out for a night is not considered NTR to me. NTR is being left alone physically and emotionally by someone you loved and that loved you.

 

[Hildegardt]

Your WIFE would not leave the most influential man in all of Zaten for some booty call she fucks while you're out working also if she did she'd be risking her life quite literally.(because it's against the law of Zetan)

Is that even true? If might makes right, why wouldn't Zahra be allowed to use her status to get some? Idk why we should expect Zeta to be patriarchal, when we know that it's ruled by a queen and that female stalkers exist. We also know that sex is casual and no big deal at all, which is pretty much the opposite from punishable by death. I know that many people prefer it that way, at least from a porn perspective, but the main girls being monogamous for no reason takes away from the lore imo.
Also, what is Zahra supposed to do, if someone mightier shows up, while both Zaton and Shani are away? The only things keeping her save are the walls around her estate and the fact that Zaton would come for revenge. But take a look at Zahra and tell me she wouldn't be worth it.

 

[varage]

Is that even true? If might makes right, why wouldn't Zahra be allowed to use her status to get some? Idk why we should expect Zeta to be patriarchal, when we know that it's ruled by a queen and that female stalkers exist. We also know that sex is casual and no big deal at all, which is pretty much the opposite from punishable by death. I know that many people prefer it that way, at least from a porn perspective, but the main girls being monogamous for no reason takes away from the lore imo.
Also, what is Zahra supposed to do, if someone mightier shows up, while both Zaton and Shani are away? The only things keeping her save are the walls around her estate and the fact that Zaton would come for revenge. But take a look at Zahra and tell me she wouldn't be worth it.

She would but still not NTR NTR isn't having your lover raped its having her stolen from you. With Zahra being who she is she isn't falling for anyone but you. Is all im saying if she doesn't fall for her rapist then its just that rape tag not NTR if she doesn't catch feelings for another man then NTR is not applicable.

As for the first part Zahra doesn't want anyone but MC and even if she did she would need to permission of the head of the house to seek it. If someone who wasn't the head of the house this means MC or SHANI after MC is dead as she would be head of the house then not her mother. Her mother would need permission of Shani to seek it. It's a Hierarchy.

Yes this place is run by a Queen not a king alluding to a matriarchal System though this Queen is unwed if she wed would the male be king above her we do not know. We also know of only 2 households both having a Male head not saying female head of the families don't exist. It is stated in opening scene or was. The scene has been changed and may have been edited out that A stalkers property is protected BY LAW while he is out on a mission.

Yes they treat sex differently but ownership of property still exist same as slavery Shani, Ain, Emilia and Zahra are not just his
daughter, daughter, Slave, Wife. They are also his property and his responsibility. If they act out he would be held accountable likely this system seems to be in line with say the Muslim culture. Where honor and status weighs out and allot of the responsibility falls on the male but most of the rights do as well.

If someone mightier I'm assuming they could also be forced to settle their differences within the arena if MC so chose but the law would be on his side if he was on a mission for the Queen. And a mightier person did show up and rape Zahra he would be punished and he'd have to hope he took off or was of higher standing than the queen. But NTR it is not. I don't mind if there's sharing I don't mind if it's open relationships you suggest I'm saying that PEOPLE call both those things NTR even though they are not.

It would also be a blight on the Queens reputation for allowing her stalkers property to be damaged while he was away on business and we all see how she deals with being dishonored.

But, I'll digress from this topic as many people have different opinions but one thing I'd really like to see is finding Emilia's mother and adding her to the roster haha.

 

[varage]

Now I will say Zahra might be delt with by MC and not the Queen in the scenario where it is consensual and not rape. But the one that touched her while MC was absent while mc was on a mission would have committed a crime. This could end in imprisonment or more interestingly a fight to the death in the arena against him and the MC with all their properties on the line if applicable and could be an interesting story ark minus your wife being involved as i don't think Zetan is touching that with a 12 foot pole haha. But a different issue being settled in the arena over properties could be an interesting side story.
Maybe someone gets an eye for Zahra or your daughters and fights you in the arena for the rights to them without all the subterfuge of cheating involved.