walker188

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It's more like they're hard to do properly in an AVN.
For instance, if Shani dies the game can't continue on with that in mind. You'd have to make an entire game's worth of alternative just for that choice (story continuing without Shani -or Z-, people reacting to that, all scenes featuring her to have alternatives, etc.). For all intents and purposes, not feasible.

The other option is to go "GG, just reload" but even that I feel has to be something more than a "You died" screen a la Dark Souls. It should have some aftermath or conclusion, so it at least feels remotely impactful.

TL;DR, no inherent aversion to bad endings, they just need a certain amount of investment to be done properly.
Creating the illusion of choice is the hardest part about a project like this. That being said, part of that illusion IS making dead ends, losing or gaining content based on what you do.

Check out Detroit: Become Human, it's probably the single greatest choice based narrative I've ever seen, and yeah, there's railroading, but there's also an opportunity to branch.
 

FunFuntomes

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Yeah, that is my canon playthrough for her. Her family did a number on her and she deserves a chance, IMO. Plus, totally hot.
MC coudl even leave her with the riders, all he has to do is threten Ashe and Kira to never again fuck them and she'd be treated like a queen
 

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and let's not forget about Kitty, something tells me being nice to her, might benefit MC in the long run with the mutants
Also Ivy...as she is looking for a place to call home (And if MC keeps playing nice, I believe he will have an elf follower...maybe more.)
 

FunFuntomes

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Also Ivy...as she is looking for a place to call home (And if MC keeps playing nice, I believe he will have an elf follower...maybe more.)
I have a crazy theory... the elf that Shani met in the zone is MC an Ivy's daughter, but Shani somehow walked into timerift.
 

alexrieper

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It's more like they're hard to do properly in an AVN.
For instance, if Shani dies the game can't continue on with that in mind. You'd have to make an entire game's worth of alternative just for that choice (story continuing without Shani -or Z-, people reacting to that, all scenes featuring her to have alternatives, etc.). For all intents and purposes, not feasible.

The other option is to go "GG, just reload" but even that I feel has to be something more than a "You died" screen a la Dark Souls. It should have some aftermath or conclusion, so it at least feels remotely impactful.

TL;DR, no inherent aversion to bad endings, they just need a certain amount of investment to be done properly.
I would have been satisfied with a few renders of old granny Shani finding out that the few days she choose to stay were actually decades and she dies of old age like some weird time warp shenanigans that can be accomplished with anomalies with a Zone like setup. I wouldn't even mind seeing the game over screen and having to reload a save, which was made right at the choice because I was genuinely curious if it was going there, but alas, it wasn't. It would just be refreshing to have a "Oh shit, I guess I do have to be careful in the zone" kind of moment.
 
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Paz

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I would have been satisfied with a few renders of old granny Shani finding out that the few days she choose to stay were actually decades and she dies of old age like some weird time warp shenanigans that can be accomplished with anomalies with a Zone like setup. I wouldn't even mind seeing the game over screen and having to reload a save, which was made right at the choice because I was genuinely curious if it was going there, but alas, it wasn't. It would just be refreshing to have a "Oh shit, I guess I do have to be careful in the zone" kind of moment.
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There is no pleasing them... Any game that isn't a Chad Simulator is an immediate turn off for some of these guys. So they just shit on the game wholesale because there is an AVOIDABLE kink they don't like.
"Chad". Such a stupid term. And considering how self-proclaimed chads act, I prefer my term for them. Hanging Chads. Cause they are just as useful as one in an election. Amazing how these 'manly chads' are always such delicate babies.
 

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Despite being beta, I encounterd no bugs or missing images.

And i don't understand the warmongering about the sharing contend. If don't want to see some a scene i don't enforce it, like that Igor stuff.

How someone can complain about the length of the updated(s) is bevond me. It has easy 1.5 to 2.0 hours of gameplay/dialogs.
If some players to decide ctrl all it's clear the the update seems lackluster...
 

FunFuntomes

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Despite being beta, I encounterd no bugs or missing images.

And i don't understand the warmongering about the sharing contend. If don't want to see some a scene i don't enforce it, like that Igor stuff.

How someone can complain about the length of the updated(s) is bevond me. It has easy 1.5 to 2.0 hours of gameplay/dialogs.
If some players to decide ctrl all it's clear the the update seems lackluster...
well...maybe they didn't have any content with the raider sisters nor did they meet kat....
 
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FunFuntomes

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when Shani met Julia for the first time, I hoped the apprentice would bring the girl to her master as a token of apprecation, kinda like a cut from her finding on her first solo mission.
 
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:PogChamp:I have read the latest reviews and seriously I find it pitiful that after playing and enjoying the game. There are always some who come back here and complain, yes complain that they finished the new version in 5min. You don't imagine what it's like to make a game, but make your own and prove that you can go faster and then share your new method. And if not, I make you to those who come here to complain after each new upload :FacePalm:.

If you look at the patreaon of Zetan you have a solution for uploads to come faster, just read it :geek: :

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:rolleyes::unsure:Participate in the donation and there at the same time you will have what you want with faster or bigger upload and you will stop coming here crying every time.:cry::cry::cry:

Thank you and kisses to your mom from me.:whistle:(y):love:
 
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