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So my takeaway from the current conversation is.....

Putin is going to nuke us all (totally unprovoked... of course... :ROFLMAO:) and Zetan is in fact humanity's future as the world is headed that way.

...

OOOOOK then, I'll take 2 elves, a Zahra, and maybe a couple fairies please. Oh yeah, and definitely some raiders. :ROFLMAO:
 

Gato21

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So my takeaway from the current conversation is.....

Putin is going to nuke us all (totally unprovoked... of course... :ROFLMAO:) and Zetan is in fact humanity's future as the world is headed that way.

...

OOOOOK then, I'll take 2 elves, a Zahra, and maybe a couple fairies please. Oh yeah, and definitely some raiders. :ROFLMAO:
A nuclear apocryphal world full of rape my friend. Also, how could you forget mutants? She is looking at you with sad non-rose colored eyes.
 

Cynicaladm

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In the real world, it shouldn't be necessary for anyone to be against rape. That should just be the factory setting of humanity, and anyone claiming different or trying to justify a real world context can take a hike as far as I'm concerned.

That said, this is a fictional world with its own rules pertaining general morality, sexuality as a currency and social qualifier and rules of engagement.

This is also a microcosm, an insular reality that is looked at with surprise and maybe even disgust by other contemporary surviving/reforming civilisations and cultures.
Kateryna and the traveling merchants are from other places and cultures and they are unfamiliar and a bit shocked to learn how things go in what remains of Egypt.

The main argument for things being the way they are is twofold:
1)Hypersexual society. Maybe it's the result of how the world/humanity was evolving before the big reset, maybe it's the work of the early settlers who were a bunch of perverts, maybe it's to do with the need to repopulate and the fact that a violent society means a high mortality rate... But the fact is that sex is everywhere, it's normalised and pretty much a way for people to interact and establish relations and even power dynamics. Very little is off the table and society as a whole is entirely cool with it. Specific individuals may have a different view, if and when functional to the story. Or maybe they didn't have a tv and there isn't much else to do.
2) the spoils of war go to the victor, and sex is and can be seen as a way to both impose dominance but also declare the end of hostilities. The losing side knows it's going to happen and that somebody is going to have to take one for the team. Much like in other settings the losing general gets his sword broken and his rank stripped, in Zeta somebody is going to take it where the sun doesn't shine.
That's why, psychology of the character aside, Asha doesn't bite Z's dick off when he takes her after having defeated her.
He beat her and gets to play with her as he sees fit.
That's the backdrop against which Kitty is "violated".
How to potentially use sex or the lure of it is even a topic of discussion between Shani and Mandisa.

In all of these scenes however, much freedom is given to the players as to how they go about it or if they do anything at all.

Is it a flimsy excuse to justify a lot of sex scenes? Absolutely. Is it something that could never be accepted in the real world?
I would like to hope so, but history, even recent history, teaches us otherwise.. Not that that's an excuse.
That said, lore-wise and in terms of narrative, I like to think it holds up fairly well.

In that framework, there's one scene that I am still unhappy with, and that's Kyra's introduction, where Z has the possibility to boink her when she's clearly unconscious. I think it sits on the wrong side of the consent/rule-of-the-strongest line, and I'm thinking of eventually fixing it, but that's not a priority at this time.

As for the futa content... I'm personally not interested/invested at all, and wouldn't really know how to convincingly portray such a character or justify potential relations with the existing characters. Are there crossdressers or trans people in Zeta? I don't see why not. Do we need to put them in the game? I'm not particularly feeling it and I'm not in favour of adding it purely to satisfy a specific player demographic, especially if it doesn't add anything significant to the story. This game isn't really a vehicle for representation and we're also not trying to cater to each and every fetish out there. That said ZetanDS may have different ideas and decide to put it in, in which case we'll try and make it work in a believable way.
 

Gato21

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In the real world, it shouldn't be necessary for anyone to be against rape. That should just be the factory setting of humanity, and anyone claiming different or trying to justify a real world context can take a hike as far as I'm concerned.

That said, this is a fictional world with its own rules pertaining general morality, sexuality as a currency and social qualifier and rules of engagement.

This is also a microcosm, an insular reality that is looked at with surprise and maybe even disgust by other contemporary surviving/reforming civilisations and cultures.
Kateryna and the traveling merchants are from other places and cultures and they are unfamiliar and a bit shocked to learn how things go in what remains of Egypt.

The main argument for things being the way they are is twofold:
1)Hypersexual society. Maybe it's the result of how the world/humanity was evolving before the big reset, maybe it's the work of the early settlers who were a bunch of perverts, maybe it's to do with the need to repopulate and the fact that a violent society means a high mortality rate... But the fact is that sex is everywhere, it's normalised and pretty much a way for people to interact and establish relations and even power dynamics. Very little is off the table and society as a whole is entirely cool with it. Specific individuals may have a different view, if and when functional to the story. Or maybe they didn't have a tv and there isn't much else to do.
2) the spoils of war go to the victor, and sex is and can be seen as a way to both impose dominance but also declare the end of hostilities. The losing side knows it's going to happen and that somebody is going to have to take one for the team. Much like in other settings the losing general gets his sword broken and his rank stripped, in Zeta somebody is going to take it where the sun doesn't shine.
That's why, psychology of the character aside, Asha doesn't bite Z's dick off when he takes her after having defeated her.
He beat her and gets to play with her as he sees fit.
That's the backdrop against which Kitty is "violated".
How to potentially use sex or the lure of it is even a topic of discussion between Shani and Mandisa.

In all of these scenes however, much freedom is given to the players as to how they go about it or if they do anything at all.

Is it a flimsy excuse to justify a lot of sex scenes? Absolutely. Is it something that could never be accepted in the real world?
I would like to hope so, but history, even recent history, teaches us otherwise.. Not that that's an excuse.
That said, lore-wise and in terms of narrative, I like to think it holds up fairly well.

In that framework, there's one scene that I am still unhappy with, and that's Kyra's introduction, where Z has the possibility to boink her when she's clearly unconscious. I think it sits on the wrong side of the consent/rule-of-the-strongest line, and I'm thinking of eventually fixing it, but that's not a priority at this time.

As for the futa content... I'm personally not interested/invested at all, and wouldn't really know how to convincingly portray such a character or justify potential relations with the existing characters. Are there crossdressers or trans people in Zeta? I don't see why not. Do we need to put them in the game? I'm not particularly feeling it and I'm not in favour of adding it purely to satisfy a specific player demographic, especially if it doesn't add anything significant to the story. This game isn't really a vehicle for representation and we're also not trying to cater to each and every fetish out there. That said ZetanDS may have different ideas and decide to put it in, in which case we'll try and make it work in a believable way.
:rolleyes::geek:
 

Fiufia

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In the real world, it shouldn't be necessary for anyone to be against rape. That should just be the factory setting of humanity, and anyone claiming different or trying to justify a real world context can take a hike as far as I'm concerned.

That said, this is a fictional world with its own rules pertaining general morality, sexuality as a currency and social qualifier and rules of engagement.

This is also a microcosm, an insular reality that is looked at with surprise and maybe even disgust by other contemporary surviving/reforming civilisations and cultures.
Kateryna and the traveling merchants are from other places and cultures and they are unfamiliar and a bit shocked to learn how things go in what remains of Egypt.

The main argument for things being the way they are is twofold:
1)Hypersexual society. Maybe it's the result of how the world/humanity was evolving before the big reset, maybe it's the work of the early settlers who were a bunch of perverts, maybe it's to do with the need to repopulate and the fact that a violent society means a high mortality rate... But the fact is that sex is everywhere, it's normalised and pretty much a way for people to interact and establish relations and even power dynamics. Very little is off the table and society as a whole is entirely cool with it. Specific individuals may have a different view, if and when functional to the story. Or maybe they didn't have a tv and there isn't much else to do.
2) the spoils of war go to the victor, and sex is and can be seen as a way to both impose dominance but also declare the end of hostilities. The losing side knows it's going to happen and that somebody is going to have to take one for the team. Much like in other settings the losing general gets his sword broken and his rank stripped, in Zeta somebody is going to take it where the sun doesn't shine.
That's why, psychology of the character aside, Asha doesn't bite Z's dick off when he takes her after having defeated her.
He beat her and gets to play with her as he sees fit.
That's the backdrop against which Kitty is "violated".
How to potentially use sex or the lure of it is even a topic of discussion between Shani and Mandisa.

In all of these scenes however, much freedom is given to the players as to how they go about it or if they do anything at all.

Is it a flimsy excuse to justify a lot of sex scenes? Absolutely. Is it something that could never be accepted in the real world?
I would like to hope so, but history, even recent history, teaches us otherwise.. Not that that's an excuse.
That said, lore-wise and in terms of narrative, I like to think it holds up fairly well.

In that framework, there's one scene that I am still unhappy with, and that's Kyra's introduction, where Z has the possibility to boink her when she's clearly unconscious. I think it sits on the wrong side of the consent/rule-of-the-strongest line, and I'm thinking of eventually fixing it, but that's not a priority at this time.

As for the futa content... I'm personally not interested/invested at all, and wouldn't really know how to convincingly portray such a character or justify potential relations with the existing characters. Are there crossdressers or trans people in Zeta? I don't see why not. Do we need to put them in the game? I'm not particularly feeling it and I'm not in favour of adding it purely to satisfy a specific player demographic, especially if it doesn't add anything significant to the story. This game isn't really a vehicle for representation and we're also not trying to cater to each and every fetish out there. That said ZetanDS may have different ideas and decide to put it in, in which case we'll try and make it work in a believable way.
well said.
but I don't know why I found this part particularly funny
Asha doesn't bite Z's dick off when he takes her after having defeated her
damn I was joking when I said that. but ppl took it really seriously
 

Yngling

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As for the futa content... I'm personally not interested/invested at all, and wouldn't really know how to convincingly portray such a character or justify potential relations with the existing characters. Are there crossdressers or trans people in Zeta?
I'm not pushing you to put futa or trap content but there are plenty ways to make it plausible:

1) Mutation making actual futa's (pussy + dick) possible. If the hive could have developed, having futa's would be a minor thing...

2) In such a violent, male dominant society, crossdressing can provide a couple of advantages:
a) Women dressing up as men can more easily become or act as warriors
b) Men dressing up as women can escape scrutiny from guards etc
 

Kellermann

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Yo wtf is happening with this thread. It used to be so tame and wholesome. Now it's infested with some odd personalities.
We used to be tame and wholesome? :( Damn, I guess I wasn't nearly as untamed and unwholesome as I thought.

Indeed I've seen these same pearl clutchers invading several threads with this similar narrative recently. This game probably isn't for them because a lot of additional dark shit is going on besides just graping and groping in this land of pixelated fiction.

We've got: archeological theft, cold-blooded murder, summary executions, gore, torture, slavery, mutilations, war crimes, crossbreeding with a bug, horror elements, a Russian, a bit of perpetuating genetical homogeneity shall we say? and perhaps even the worst of all to a current day sensitive soul... *gasp* (cover your ears Greta)...air pollution! :eek:
 

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In the real world, it shouldn't be necessary for anyone to be against rape. That should just be the factory setting of humanity, and anyone claiming different or trying to justify a real world context can take a hike as far as I'm concerned.

That said, this is a fictional world with its own rules pertaining general morality, sexuality as a currency and social qualifier and rules of engagement.

This is also a microcosm, an insular reality that is looked at with surprise and maybe even disgust by other contemporary surviving/reforming civilisations and cultures.
Kateryna and the traveling merchants are from other places and cultures and they are unfamiliar and a bit shocked to learn how things go in what remains of Egypt.

The main argument for things being the way they are is twofold:
1)Hypersexual society. Maybe it's the result of how the world/humanity was evolving before the big reset, maybe it's the work of the early settlers who were a bunch of perverts, maybe it's to do with the need to repopulate and the fact that a violent society means a high mortality rate... But the fact is that sex is everywhere, it's normalised and pretty much a way for people to interact and establish relations and even power dynamics. Very little is off the table and society as a whole is entirely cool with it. Specific individuals may have a different view, if and when functional to the story. Or maybe they didn't have a tv and there isn't much else to do.
2) the spoils of war go to the victor, and sex is and can be seen as a way to both impose dominance but also declare the end of hostilities. The losing side knows it's going to happen and that somebody is going to have to take one for the team. Much like in other settings the losing general gets his sword broken and his rank stripped, in Zeta somebody is going to take it where the sun doesn't shine.
That's why, psychology of the character aside, Asha doesn't bite Z's dick off when he takes her after having defeated her.
He beat her and gets to play with her as he sees fit.
That's the backdrop against which Kitty is "violated".
How to potentially use sex or the lure of it is even a topic of discussion between Shani and Mandisa.

In all of these scenes however, much freedom is given to the players as to how they go about it or if they do anything at all.

Is it a flimsy excuse to justify a lot of sex scenes? Absolutely. Is it something that could never be accepted in the real world?
I would like to hope so, but history, even recent history, teaches us otherwise.. Not that that's an excuse.
That said, lore-wise and in terms of narrative, I like to think it holds up fairly well.

In that framework, there's one scene that I am still unhappy with, and that's Kyra's introduction, where Z has the possibility to boink her when she's clearly unconscious. I think it sits on the wrong side of the consent/rule-of-the-strongest line, and I'm thinking of eventually fixing it, but that's not a priority at this time.

As for the futa content... I'm personally not interested/invested at all, and wouldn't really know how to convincingly portray such a character or justify potential relations with the existing characters. Are there crossdressers or trans people in Zeta? I don't see why not. Do we need to put them in the game? I'm not particularly feeling it and I'm not in favour of adding it purely to satisfy a specific player demographic, especially if it doesn't add anything significant to the story. This game isn't really a vehicle for representation and we're also not trying to cater to each and every fetish out there. That said ZetanDS may have different ideas and decide to put it in, in which case we'll try and make it work in a believable way.

That's a lot of good info. Anyway...I speak only for myself, I don't know why other people might want futa...but for me it's just a way to put some additional dicks in the chicks. I don't care about 'representation' at all.
 

Gato21

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That's a lot of good info. Anyway...I speak only for myself, I don't know why other people might want futa...but for me it's just a way to put some additional dicks in the chicks. I don't care about 'representation' at all.
Didn't Felix from Re: Zero teach you anything? Although technically a trap, men are the superior gender even when it comes to being a woman. (disclaimer: Not actual view of author. Statement purely for comedy. Seriously, I like vagina.)
 
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A nuclear apocryphal world full of rape my friend. Also, how could you forget mutants? She is looking at you with sad non-rose colored eyes.
Ah, but I didn't technically forget mutants since the elves are mutants. (And in this thread everyone sticks to the facts. Apparently. :sneaky: :ROFLMAO:)

But now that you mention it, yes a few more mutants is always a good thing. I'm all for odd eye colors. :devilish:
 

Gato21

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Ah, but I didn't technically forget mutants since the elves are mutants. (And in this thread everyone sticks to the facts. Apparently. :sneaky: :ROFLMAO:)

But now that you mention it, yes a few more mutants is always a good thing. I'm all for odd eye colors. :devilish:
Bro, her eyes lit up and changed to a rose hue, you did good. ;) Facts, what are those? :p
 
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Yngling

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We've got: archeological theft, cold-blooded murder, summary executions, gore, torture, slavery, mutilations, war crimes, crossbreeding with a bug, horror elements, a Russian, a bit of perpetuating genetical homogeneity shall we say? and perhaps even the worst of all to a current day sensitive soul... *gasp* (cover your ears Greta)...air pollution! :eek:
Most of that is fine. Encouraged, even. Only Russians and air pollution are the real problem.

Personally I believed that Katarzyna and Igor were Polish rather than Russian (the "zy" gives it away), but maybe they are just in disguise... :eek:
 
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