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I mean.. The man has been exploring zones and old Cairo for more than three decades now... Who knows what's going to crawl out of Kateryna..
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yeah it is pretty much a deus-ex-machina that Zahra has no more kids than 2. but look at it that way. the temple has women as priestesses that serve practically no other purpose than to get pregnant constantly. Harkonnan is very likely right that conception is a difficult task in that world, especially for a stalker. though Zaton seemingly has sex in a exceptional high frequency, we see them between time skips. so you should assume that sex with his house members, especially one single individual like Zahra, meaning that even if Zaton is home his attention is always divided, is a rather irregular occurrence.That may be true but feels a bit deus-ex-machina to me.
Besides, Shani and Ain are pretty close to each other in terms of age.
If it works without problems twice, then why wouldn't it the third time?
It that is the way it must be, it's a small price to pay.
Zahra, being the 1st wife, should probably give birth to the heir.
You can't assume that Emilia's or Fairy's children are going to inherit on a similar level as Shani and Ain.
Personally I would assume that Shani gets the bulk of it. Ain gets married off to some other wealthy fucker. The rest gets a subsistance amount.
i think that to get Shani and Ain, Zaton and Zahra were actively trying to get pregnant. no distractions like other women or stalker work, just a man trying to get his wife pregnant. for whatever reason they only wanted 2 kids, but taking everything else aside for that, seems the most likely answer.
because i highly doubt that from a game mechanic and story narrative point of view, that we won't get the option at some point to have Kateryna, Fairy, Emillia and even Ain and Shani pregnant, but not Zahra. regardless of in-world-logic, that would be a bad choice from the dev.
- Apr 25, 2020
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If Zahra's still fertile, it means MC has not cum in her in ~20 years, that's a bit odd. In that case she should say something like "Oh you didn't cum in me in years, MC! I don't mind another child" when you choose to do so in the game.
- Oct 29, 2017
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You realize that fertile women don't always get pregnant when a man cums inside them right? There are many factors at play like her cycle etc.
You make it sound like those grandmas who warned their daughters not to sit on public toilet seats lest some stray sperm find his way in lmao.
- Apr 25, 2020
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You realize 16-18 years have passed without having a baby after Ain right?
- Oct 29, 2017
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People can also control that through various means including watching her cycles and contraceptives.
Don't get mad at me bro the game clearly states she is baby ready.
Take it up with the devs lol.
- Oct 31, 2017
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Meanwhile, somewhere on this earth:
Zetan: I just want to make incest fetish game. I didn't expect theseSpanish Zahra Inquisitions!
Also Zetan: Probably I should have just killed off Zahra ( not long after Ain was born ) like all the other Father-Daughter incest fetish games.
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As a follow-up to this, One More Thing ( read it in the voice of the late Steve Jobs at Apple's events ):
This is also a story about a woman who defies fate, cheated death and forges her own destiny.
Zetan: I just want to make incest fetish game. I didn't expect these
Also Zetan: Probably I should have just killed off Zahra ( not long after Ain was born ) like all the other Father-Daughter incest fetish games.
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As a follow-up to this, One More Thing ( read it in the voice of the late Steve Jobs at Apple's events ):
This is also a story about a woman who defies fate, cheated death and forges her own destiny.
Is there any update on the poll results? The last dev log mentioned it was going to be announced in a couple of days but we are already past that time.
- Dec 28, 2020
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DEC 01, 2023 09:00 PM
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Survey results 2023 (so far)
Hey everyone, as mentioned in the previous devlog, here's some insight to the survey you took part in! This covers just a part of the results, since the poll is still ongoing (2.250+ participants as of today) and many questions also include free-form responses. We need some time to read through thousands of individual sentences and consolidate them.
The first and likely the one you're most interest is about your favorite girl(s). Shani and Ain have in the past frequently switched places, although I am never sure if it's because of her looks or... other features. Might be an interesting idea for the next poll.. Character or looks?
Zahra comes in with a solid third place and I suppose Queen Merneith got much more sympathy because she got more approachable recently - her story is not over yet, there will be more opportunities to learn about her past, and/or corrupt her.
Worth mentioning is that some characters that many of you like have not been that popular before the latest updates - like Queen Merneith - and some characters that you might learn to like a lot have yet lots of content to come for them, like Ivy's friend, or characters that haven't even been introduced yet! However, if this poll shows one thing, is that the content for these girls is well received - and that makes me excited to show you what's in store for them.
Now, let's look at the top 5 characters you would like to see more content of. Queen Merneith and Ivy have stopped with a decent cliffhanger, and I will confirm we won't have to wait much longer for the next bit of Ivy's content.
Surprisingly Kitty has made it to 5th place. Why does she act -or rather does not act- the way she does?
Now onto a few gameplay-specific questions, and some ideas of how to tackle potential issues. First one, important choices.
What you said about the important choices aligns with what we already suspected a bit when playing through the game for some testing before. We have many choices in the game, but not all are as equally impactful. And some might feel a bit cryptic or obscure or mislead the player.
Regarding this, we are toying with a few ideas and potential solutions, like marking choices that have a big impact differently so they stand out, without changing all of them or removing part of the freedom a player has. We want to avoid making the players feel like they're railroaded, but also make it clear that a certain choice has a significant impact (missing out on an entire faction for instance). We will find a decent solution eventually.
Next one, the amount of markers on the buttons. You guys seem to be mostly happy about the way we mark nearly everything (bar the repeatable content), although a decent portion of the playerbase would like even more of them.
Also, a small percentage of people are finding the amount overwhelming at times and this is something we can definitely understand, especially in certain parts of the game, where the entire household menu lights up at the same time. This one is a bit tricky, as we want the players to always have an idea of where to go next, but not spam them with notifications.
Is the end-of-content marker visible enough? Apparently not good enough, since one third of you say that they didn't know it exists, or that it doesn't help you in the way it should. So we will try to improve it, either by making it available not only at home but everywhere, or making it more visible.
The reason why we don't want a forced end-of-content-screen is because it would be annoying to see it after every update, because you'd think a new scene is coming when there isn't.
Also, did you know there are randomized end screens? Every time you click on them and don't scroll back, you get another one, including a fitting soundtrack. And maybe you can find some of last years' special, not in-game renders in there, like Raider Queen Ain.
Last but not least, the question about whether it is clear if a room has no more content or if you just need to sleep. This one is an issue with the majority of players, and honestly a result we were kind of expecting. It is something that was made very early in the game (0.04 or so) and was not given the proper attention since then.
We are also having ideas on how to improve this, either by using a different icon for when a player needs to simply go to bed/progress a day vs. no content at all.
_________
That would be it for now, thank you again for participating. This one was more on the technical front, but it's important to help us make the game more enjoyable to play, after all renders aren't everything if the gameplay is annoying.
The poll is going to last until the end of the year, so there might be some developments in some polls still.
PUBLIC POST
This content was created for artistic and entertainment purposes FOR ADULTS ONLY and may include pictures and materials that some viewers may find offensive. If you are under the age of 18, if such material offends you or if it is illegal to view such material in your community please exit the page IMMEDIATELY. All depicted characters are fictional. No live victims were produced during this content creation and no harm was imposed upon any live creature. All characters depicted in sexual situations are 18 years of age or older and of the age of consent, even if it looks otherwise. Acts depicted are all consensual.
Survey results 2023 (so far)
Hey everyone, as mentioned in the previous devlog, here's some insight to the survey you took part in! This covers just a part of the results, since the poll is still ongoing (2.250+ participants as of today) and many questions also include free-form responses. We need some time to read through thousands of individual sentences and consolidate them.
The first and likely the one you're most interest is about your favorite girl(s). Shani and Ain have in the past frequently switched places, although I am never sure if it's because of her looks or... other features. Might be an interesting idea for the next poll.. Character or looks?
Zahra comes in with a solid third place and I suppose Queen Merneith got much more sympathy because she got more approachable recently - her story is not over yet, there will be more opportunities to learn about her past, and/or corrupt her.
Worth mentioning is that some characters that many of you like have not been that popular before the latest updates - like Queen Merneith - and some characters that you might learn to like a lot have yet lots of content to come for them, like Ivy's friend, or characters that haven't even been introduced yet! However, if this poll shows one thing, is that the content for these girls is well received - and that makes me excited to show you what's in store for them.
Now, let's look at the top 5 characters you would like to see more content of. Queen Merneith and Ivy have stopped with a decent cliffhanger, and I will confirm we won't have to wait much longer for the next bit of Ivy's content.
Surprisingly Kitty has made it to 5th place. Why does she act -or rather does not act- the way she does?
Now onto a few gameplay-specific questions, and some ideas of how to tackle potential issues. First one, important choices.
What you said about the important choices aligns with what we already suspected a bit when playing through the game for some testing before. We have many choices in the game, but not all are as equally impactful. And some might feel a bit cryptic or obscure or mislead the player.
Regarding this, we are toying with a few ideas and potential solutions, like marking choices that have a big impact differently so they stand out, without changing all of them or removing part of the freedom a player has. We want to avoid making the players feel like they're railroaded, but also make it clear that a certain choice has a significant impact (missing out on an entire faction for instance). We will find a decent solution eventually.
Next one, the amount of markers on the buttons. You guys seem to be mostly happy about the way we mark nearly everything (bar the repeatable content), although a decent portion of the playerbase would like even more of them.
Also, a small percentage of people are finding the amount overwhelming at times and this is something we can definitely understand, especially in certain parts of the game, where the entire household menu lights up at the same time. This one is a bit tricky, as we want the players to always have an idea of where to go next, but not spam them with notifications.
Is the end-of-content marker visible enough? Apparently not good enough, since one third of you say that they didn't know it exists, or that it doesn't help you in the way it should. So we will try to improve it, either by making it available not only at home but everywhere, or making it more visible.
The reason why we don't want a forced end-of-content-screen is because it would be annoying to see it after every update, because you'd think a new scene is coming when there isn't.
Also, did you know there are randomized end screens? Every time you click on them and don't scroll back, you get another one, including a fitting soundtrack. And maybe you can find some of last years' special, not in-game renders in there, like Raider Queen Ain.
Last but not least, the question about whether it is clear if a room has no more content or if you just need to sleep. This one is an issue with the majority of players, and honestly a result we were kind of expecting. It is something that was made very early in the game (0.04 or so) and was not given the proper attention since then.
We are also having ideas on how to improve this, either by using a different icon for when a player needs to simply go to bed/progress a day vs. no content at all.
_________
That would be it for now, thank you again for participating. This one was more on the technical front, but it's important to help us make the game more enjoyable to play, after all renders aren't everything if the gameplay is annoying.
The poll is going to last until the end of the year, so there might be some developments in some polls still.
- Jan 5, 2023
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- Nov 15, 2020
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Actually the ranking reflects my own preferences rather well.
Shani #1, Ain close #2, Zahra #3, Queen #4, then the rest.
- Dec 27, 2017
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So you would remove your support because posters on Pateon don't favor your favorite LIs? Did the developers say they would stop featuring your favorites? Are you really so petty as to withdraw your support because of a poll?See my previous attachment
I'm curious to see what he does with those results, I've been supporting this game for quite awhile now and it may be time for me to move on and find another game to support. Maybe they can figure out something cool to do with Shani but right now I'm not feeling her at all.
- Aug 13, 2021
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Yeah, I see the poll more as a tool to identify shortcomings in the game where they might be able to make improvements. I'd say Zetan has a pretty good idea of what he wants to do story-wise and probably won't change that based on a poll. I don't think it's like with some other devs where they do a poll asking, "who should I focus on for next update?". Because Zetan doesn't do that. He and the team seem to know what direction they're going for each update. I think it's important to know which girls are popular or which girls the fans think don't have enough screen time. But that doesn't necessarily mean they will suddenly cut off characters because they weren't deemed popular enough.
- Jan 5, 2023
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Wow you read a WHOLE lot into my post...
Did the developers say they would stop featuring your favorites? I didn't say they did.
Are you really so petty as to withdraw your support because of a poll? I didn't say that either.
So you would remove your support because posters on Pateon don't favor your favorite LIs? Again never said it.
So your inferences are just wrong. I don't care for Shani and if she becomes a major focus of this VN then yes I will go support another VN. If Asha and Kyra get a lot less content then yes I will support another VN. Simple as that.
I open up my wallet and actively support the VN's and content I want to see.
So I will see where the story and content goes but right now I have a bad feeling about it. Maybe they will come up with an amazing story Arc for Shani that will bring me around..who knows.... There writing has been top notch and I'm hopeful but pessimistic.
I NEVER said any of the things you accused me of.
- Nov 15, 2020
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That's fair enough but to be honest I read the same thing in your previous post as Walter Victor did.
As for Asha and Kyra, they are fun characters but, to me, perhaps a bit shallow and one-dimensional.
The interesting thing with Shani is that, on one hand, you have a strong young woman who, on the other hand, is also still very young and inexperienced. When women are young and inexperienced, in porn games, this generally means the corruption genre, where girls are one way or another pushed towards doing increasingly lewd things. But Shani is too strong on her own, too important to Zaton and too well connected to the Queen to be just another corruption victim. At the same time, she just discovered sex and wants to learn more about it. Which creates yet another form of tension: does Zaton let her go to explore sex on her own, or does he want to keep her for himself?
Edited to add:
When it comes to daughter characters in incest porn games, Shani is also quite unique in that she's one of the few girls where you feel proud to be her dad. I mean that in a non-sexual way but purely based on achievement and personality. This creates a tension between those wholesome fatherly feelings and the sexual desire that both Zaton and the player feel for her. To me this greatly enhances the taboo.
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- Aug 13, 2021
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I'm not going to disagree here... but I think they have a ton of potential, especially as the leaders of their raider gang. I feel as the story picks up more, we may learn more about them and also see them grow as people. At least I hope so, because they are also among my favorite. Then again, most of the DS women are my favorite lol.