Ren'Py Desert Stalker [v0.17.1.2 Steam] [Zetan]

[Lordroedor]

rewriting code from the ground up and have less things work than before...

Yeah, that happens when you rewrite an entire game. That's why it's a beta version.

 

[randysum]

And those cut content is?

He probably forgot to remove the filter to gore and force play. I did at first and i thought there was a lot of cut content. I was wrong.

No, it's on. Most of the player agency scenes that were at all edgy were removed. Cant fingerbang your niece in front of her dad. Removing removes a whole strength of the game that made it interesting to replay, its dark and gritty world that's big on sharing and power play. Now that world setting is just lip service. Beheading someone is fine but banging your niece in front of a guard and pregnant woman and a guard is to much. Don't get a choice in the beheadings but you did with how you interacted with her. Not just her that's changed but a lot of little things that had choices. But her whole ark has changed, she helped to give you agency to explore the world, now she's just window dressing. You can still enjoy her scenes but the impact she gave you to explore the world is stolen along with your choice to explore differences in that world.

 

[RuberFF]

The game keeps resetting the name of the MC and the relashionship names every time i close the game, how do i fix this? this isn't even the first game that gives me this trouble

 

[Xythurr]

No, it's on. Most of the player agency scenes that were at all edgy were removed. Cant fingerbang your niece in front of her dad. Removing removes a whole strength of the game that made it interesting to replay, its dark and gritty world that's big on sharing and power play. Now that world setting is just lip service. Beheading someone is fine but banging your niece in front of a guard and pregnant woman and a guard is to much. Don't get a choice in the beheadings but you did with how you interacted with her. Not just her that's changed but a lot of little things that had choices. But her whole ark has changed, she helped to give you agency to explore the world, now she's just window dressing. You can still enjoy her scenes but the impact she gave you to explore the world is stolen along with your choice to explore differences in that world.

This could just be a BETA issue bud. We'll see at full release.

 

[With The]

seriously this game worth playing again from start

 

[Cynicaladm]

No, it's on. Most of the player agency scenes that were at all edgy were removed. Cant fingerbang your niece in front of her dad. Removing removes a whole strength of the game that made it interesting to replay, its dark and gritty world that's big on sharing and power play. Now that world setting is just lip service. Beheading someone is fine but banging your niece in front of a guard and pregnant woman and a guard is to much. Don't get a choice in the beheadings but you did with how you interacted with her. Not just her that's changed but a lot of little things that had choices. But her whole ark has changed, she helped to give you agency to explore the world, now she's just window dressing. You can still enjoy her scenes but the impact she gave you to explore the world is stolen along with your choice to explore differences in that world.

This at least is a properly argumented criticism i can do something with.
As far as we know, the scenes regarding Nadia should be unchanged and unaffected by the reworks, including the different choices you mention. It could be a bug. Did you look at her scenes from the gallery using the save we provided? Or did this happen on an actual play through? Because the save is mostly there to allow testers to access the new scenes, not to look back/browse.

 

[RX-9/C]

No, it's on. Most of the player agency scenes that were at all edgy were removed. Cant fingerbang your niece in front of her dad. Removing removes a whole strength of the game that made it interesting to replay, its dark and gritty world that's big on sharing and power play. Now that world setting is just lip service. Beheading someone is fine but banging your niece in front of a guard and pregnant woman and a guard is to much. Don't get a choice in the beheadings but you did with how you interacted with her. Not just her that's changed but a lot of little things that had choices. But her whole ark has changed, she helped to give you agency to explore the world, now she's just window dressing. You can still enjoy her scenes but the impact she gave you to explore the world is stolen along with your choice to explore differences in that world.

Do you have amnesia or something? Those scenes literally not even in the rework content.



Also literally in the past updates you can't even finger her in front of her dad, so how is it cut content?



And in case you want to say the fuck in front of the guard scene is missing, here you go

 

[Talishan]

I am actually a bit confused by the old saves not working thing. My old save worked fine. I had to replay some of the content, but not a crazy amount. Overall I was very satisfied with the update, there was a bit more new content than usual, which is kind of crazy if the systems were also being reworked. There weren't THAT many bugs, either. A couple of errors that ignore worked to get past and a couple of missing images.

 

[RX-9/C]

This at least is a properly argumented criticism i can do something with.
As far as we know, the scenes regarding Nadia should be unchanged and unaffected by the reworks, including the different choices you mention. It could be a bug. Did you look at her scenes from the gallery using the save we provided? Or did this happen on an actual play through? Because the save is mostly there to allow testers to access the new scenes, not to look back/browse.

It actually just another case of dementia

 

[trauts]

I am actually a bit confused by the old saves not working thing. My old save worked fine. I had to replay some of the content, but not a crazy amount. Overall I was very satisfied with the update, there was a bit more new content than usual, which is kind of crazy if the systems were also being reworked. There weren't THAT many bugs, either. A couple of errors that ignore worked to get past and a couple of missing images.

similar to you, i was able to load my old save (16beta), the only thing that didn't work and made it croak, was the quest log. everytime there's an update to a quest, it'll spew an error "AttributeError: 'Quest' object has no attribute 'tracked'" i'm guessing that in the future, to use the quest log i need to restart from the beginning.

 

[hitman2511]

That is a dev save (it is a very common thing for a lot of games) so you can just see the newish content but it is not your personal save with your choices, and you also don't get to see all the reworked and changed content and code changes.

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Also, for all the people saying there is cut content.....


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The last one is always disable in my game i will never enable this .

 

[varage]

The mc is not a cop. And desert stalkers are not the fbi. He does what he wants. Zeta may be his house but its not his destiny, he insists. You can like or agree to a principle but not always follow it, and I dont think thats inconsistency. Normal people are like that. Only zealots dont. Which desert stalkers rarely can be since they use tech forbidden by zetan law to everyone else. They are supposed to be different.

I didnt say he was a cop but he is a well-respected citizen. And no I tend to think you're wrong if you were to put a staple on a Desert stalker who "Works for the Queen" Which by his own talk (not many of them do) in old game i would in fact call him FBI. He's above a gaurd though not above much else. He enjoys the privileges that affords him and as far as original game goes he LOVEs his kingdom and wants what's best for it. It was also a scene that said yes you can have slaves but with that comes responsibility now thats out the window. I'll talk more on it when i replay the whole game. Maybe he added more but it seems like they are making him generally not even care about his own culture which seems weird. He was always a loner but never an outsider.

 

[ocean fans]

~ I always love to revisit this scene in the game...so beautiful and heartwarming to see the chemistry that Zaton builds up with his family. Sure, he might be rough around the edges as a Stalker, but given his occupation and the environment they are in, can you really blame him?

Albeit in any event, his caring, compassionate and watchful nature does shine through in scenes like this

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I thought they were sitting on a pyramid

 

[jjabc]

As far as we know, the scenes regarding Nadia should be unchanged and unaffected by the reworks, including the different choices you mention. It could be a bug.

Seems like a bug because I managed to get all the Nadia scenes, including the one RX said was missing (I think). I also managed to get all the Aisha scenes too that another user said was missing. I am missing Ain's punishment and living room scenes though. I couldn't get Ain's living room scenes because her icon is an error message, the other scene was just skipped over completely (no convo with Zahra). This is all from a fresh start.

That's just some of the bugs and I hope it is a beta problem because I agree with RX that, without some of those scenes and player choices, Desert Stalker loses its grit and immersiveness (and the kinks which my degen mind likes ).

 

[Lordroedor]

I didnt say he was a cop but he is a well-respected citizen. And no I tend to think you're wrong if you were to put a staple on a Desert stalker who "Works for the Queen" Which by his own talk (not many of them do) in old game i would in fact call him FBI. He's above a gaurd though not above much else. He enjoys the privileges that affords him and as far as original game goes he LOVEs his kingdom and wants what's best for it. It was also a scene that said yes you can have slaves but with that comes responsibility now thats out the window. I'll talk more on it when i replay the whole game. Maybe he added more but it seems like they are making him generally not even care about his own culture which seems weird. He was always a loner but never an outsider.

Your main character may love his kingdom but mine doesn't. It's in your head. He likes Zeta but he is also very critical with it and he doesn't share half of their beliefs. He doesn't share their religion, he doesn't share their prejudices, he is above their politics. He may bend the knee to their queen but he makes very clear that's to keep appearances. He recognizes the power of her army but he has many situations where he can make clear to the queen that he is not to be toyed, he talks with her as an equal. Not her servant or employee. That's why she likes him.

Desert stalkers are clearly inspired in Spectres from the mass effect trilogy. They are free agents that, on paper, may help the zetan city but in practice, they have freedom to do what they want. They use technology that no other citizen is allowed and they live beyond the limits of the city. We are told repeatedly, that most desert stalkers don't give a damn about the queen and are not to be trusted.

When Zosar (the mc master) is found leading an opposing faction, nobody wonders why he betrayed Zeta, because he didn't. In the worst case scenario, he may have betrayed his own beliefs, but we know that's bullshit. Beliefs change over time, you don't betray them, you outgrow them.

The main character here is working for many countries/oposing factions: The raiders from Adira, the mutants, the decayed. He is not doing it as a Zeta representative, he does it because he is a free agent and everybody knows it. He is a link to Zeta, not an fbi agent and for sure, not a cop. His work is not to keep zetan law. He can make that his work, if he wants to. But I don't think the main character here is like that. He is way beyond those limitations. He knows those laws and follows them when likes to. And that's it.

 

[Steve70]

OLD SAVES will not work for v0.17 and beyond

... A bit of a bummer, but something to be expected in a beta version.

 

[srfsmrf_]

Personally, I get stuck at the end of Shani's visit to the Zone. The QTE can't be interacted with, so she dies in that fight. That takes me to a "game over" screen.

Worked for me. Took me a sec to figure out that it's a matter of picking an option and then waiting for the timer to run out. It does seem clicking an option has no effect that way (in first instance).

 

[Jonh4869]

Missing

 

[Steve70]

...you do not come bitching about it being a beta without looking like a fool.

Nicely worded. Have a Like.

 

[RandomDude73672]

Was about to ask why you couldn't use Asha anymore during the intro but turns out you have to enable Forceplay in the options menu now. Sharing is another new option there as well. (Correction: Sharing was always there as an option but now moved to the options menu rather than "edit details" which is now called "edit relationships" - a menu that still contains options for both gore and sharing but not for forceplay)
Explains why so many people here are complaining about missing content