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GarusNG

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If I leave the Hive daughter or take them with us ,Will there be any consequence of this choice in future Hive or other missions???
Only the game developer knows the answer to this question))). So far, all the plots: mutants, raiders, the queen, are not related.
 

KKhalduras

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Short update as expected and no Zahra scenes is sadge but damn i liked this update way more than the previous one. I dont know why but i loved the new raider scene. I never thought i'd ever like that meth eyed kyra girl nut damn that was good
 

Don Sucio

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For me this version 0.10a is the best so far, I like the shape that the story of our male protagonist as well as that of the girl is taking. I would like to see the girl become like the male MC in someone dominant, it would be nice to have both male and female dominance if that is desired by the player. In terms of incredible quality, it seems that you are watching a movie
 

incog44

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thought I would be disappointed in not having that much sex in this update but honestly the story parts are legitimately good

slightly concerned about patreon banning it with their ridiculous "rules" though
What did Patreon ban? The games still on there.
 

EternalXV

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Please not, nothing is more annoying as fapping noises and mindless moaning. Next thing is, close to no dev has a sense of volume, headphone users just get thier ears blown away. In such chases i always hit the mute button on my keyboard instantly and keep it so if i play the game again. That would be a shame, because some games improved with good amience sound and top background music.
Bro there are sound options, There is literally a separate slider for voice , sound effects, and music... Just because you are not a fan of sound effects doesn't mean it shouldn't be an option for others who are. I personally find it weird to not want audio with your porn but I understand some are different or live at home and are scared of people hearing things etc. So just present options for everyone. And as far as porn games go this is basically AAA we are on page 296 of replies lol.. the dev has a very successful patreon/subscribestar. I think adding sound effects would be a good next step to improve this already great product. YOU could mute that slider.
 
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whichone

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I personally find it weird to not want audio with your porn
& that's where the difference lies.
This isn't porn. It's an adult story with explicit sex scenes.
I'm reading, I don't need audio, other than for ambience.
All real voice sex audio I've heard in these games has been disruptive to my immersion, so I've muted it.
 
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EternalXV

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disruptive to my immersion, so I've muted it.
Exactly my fellow man of culture, you muted it. I would never want you to not have the option to mute that portion of the audio in the settings. But for those of us who do want some more immersive audio, the option being there would be nice. I'm not going to say you guys shouldn't be able to play how you want, and I think its kind of selfish to close off the options of others(not saying YOU have done that but i see some people who do reply in that fashion sometimes) because you personally wouldn't use that audio. Happy gaming my friend.
 

whichone

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Exactly my fellow man of culture, you muted it. I would never want you to not have the option to mute that portion of the audio in the settings. But for those of us who do want some more immersive audio, the option being there would be nice. I'm not going to say you guys shouldn't be able to play how you want, and I think its kind of selfish to close off the options of others(not saying YOU have done that but i see some people who do reply in that fashion sometimes) because you personally wouldn't use that audio. Happy gaming my friend.
I fully appreciate you wanting the dev to make his game the way you want it to be.
But that's not free & is quite a bit of extra work - meaning more people moaning about delays, etc.
If multiple paying customers were requesting it, I'm sure they'd consider it.
But, if it wouldn't bring much extra in the way of income, it's not really worth doing.
 
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EternalXV

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It is disingenuous to write off my suggestion as "want the dev to make his game the way you want it to be". I did not come on here and say yo dev I want you to make a female character names Lisa who works in a bar, and i want you to write a scene where shes in the ally and gets caught masturbating by a midget, and he blackmails her to have a 3some with him and his donkey. and then... you see what im sayin? What i suggested is a very common thing in many of these games and something that probably close to 50% of the gamers like the audio and prob about 50% dont..

I'm just making a suggestion I'm not holding a gun to the devs head saying do this or else. If he doesn't think it adds value or doesn't think it worth the time or resources he can keep it moving and ignore me. I don't get why some people are so abrasive towards others fetishes or desires like I never go in a thread and say NO don't do that I don't like it!

With that said I think its best we both move on we have said what we think and that's all we can really do. I'm gonna carry on with my day. Hope you have a great weekend :)
 

whichone

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Bro I'm just making a suggestion I'm not holding a gun to the devs head saying do this or else. If he doesn't think it adds value or doesn't think it worth the time or resources he can keep it moving and ignore me. I don't get why some people are so abrasive towards others fetishes or desires like I never go in a thread and say NO don't do that I don't like it!
With that said I think its best we both move on we have said what we think and that's all we can really do. I'm gonna carry on with my day.
Nothing I've said has been, in anyway, "abrasive", about anything. No need to get upset.
I simply explained why, if it's not a popular suggestion with their paying supporters - which its current absence would suggest - then it's unlikely to happen.
 

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It is disingenuous to write off my suggestion as "want the dev to make his game the way you want it to be". I did not come on here and say yo dev I want you to make a female character names Lisa who works in a bar, and i want you to write a scene where shes in the ally and gets caught masturbating by a midget, and he blackmails her to have a 3some with him and his donkey. and then... you see what im sayin? What i suggested is a very common thing in many of these games and something that probably close to 50% of the gamers like the audio and prob about 50% dont..

I'm just making a suggestion I'm not holding a gun to the devs head saying do this or else. If he doesn't think it adds value or doesn't think it worth the time or resources he can keep it moving and ignore me. I don't get why some people are so abrasive towards others fetishes or desires like I never go in a thread and say NO don't do that I don't like it!

With that said I think its best we both move on we have said what we think and that's all we can really do. I'm gonna carry on with my day. Hope you have a great weekend :)
I've yet to come across a VN that implements this type of audio well and I myself have no interest in it, but definitely respect the way you're going about suggesting it and handling the nay-sayers. You're absolutely right that people tend to get very abrasive against suggestions that do not suit them. It's very bizarre as if they feel they're going to lose something of value. Though, I wouldn't say everyone here so far has been that way.
 

whichone

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It is disingenuous to write off my suggestion as "want the dev to make his game the way you want it to be".
No, it's not. It's a statement of fact. Not an attack?
I would never want you to not have the option to mute that portion of the audio in the settings. But for those of us who do want some more immersive audio, the option being there would be nice.
"But for those of us who do want" is quite precisely saying you'd prefer if the game was made to the specifics you want.

I have never once said you are wrong for wanting it. Stop being so unnecessarily sensitive/defensive.
I simply explained why it might not be likely to happen, unless paying supporters want it in numbers.
 

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Bro there are sound options, There is literally a separate slider for voice , sound effects, and music... Just because you are not a fan of sound effects doesn't mean it shouldn't be an option for others who are. I personally find it weird to not want audio with your porn but I understand some are different or live at home and are scared of people hearing things etc. So just present options for everyone. And as far as porn games go this is basically AAA we are on page 296 of replies lol.. the dev has a very successful patreon/subscribestar. I think adding sound effects would be a good next step to improve this already great product. YOU could mute that slider.
And if you would be not busy fadepalming me 'cause of your butthurt and used that time to read and understand my post you would have noticed my point. That infamous slider you have mentioned is the complete mess about this. Close to no dev had a sense about volume, the fucking volume is always on 100% - really nice for a headphone user.

You get off when you hear moans and groans that don't match the situation? That's ok for me, who am i to judge...
The guy does it with the bitch slowly - because virgin and so - and cozy and the sound sounds like she is nailed by a jackhammer.
Really fitting my friend, really great, for sure.

The problem lies not in the sound but in the dev. Just a little fucking notification at the start of the game would be enough. At least for this guys who can read und understand the text read.

Something like Ocean has done in Summer's Gone.
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Mortarion

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I've yet to come across a VN that implements this type of audio well and I myself have no interest in it, but definitely respect the way you're going about suggesting it and handling the nay-sayers. You're absolutely right that people tend to get very abrasive against suggestions that do not suit them. It's very bizarre as if they feel they're going to lose something of value. Though, I wouldn't say everyone here so far has been that way.
Sound IS important in a game, if done well. But not when the MC is busy yehaa a girl. Thats just annoying, when someone like this, the hub is the place to be... Chasing Sunsets, Summer's gone, Where it all begun are great examples of using sound. But not in h-scenes, not that SG would had anyone of this till now :D
 

EternalXV

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As I have stated my request for something I personally would like (and is not a random uncommon feature or suggestion) and feel would improve the game if implemented correctly (and I have full faith this dev would do it right) - I am going to leave it at that. I'm not going to keep cluttering up this thread arguing with people who disagree its quite pointless. I respect that some (many even) others do not like that feature or feel it is implemented poorly on occasion. We are all adults (18+) right? So lets just keep it moving and have a good day.
 

whichone

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Sound IS important in a game, if done well. But not when the MC is busy yehaa a girl. Thats just annoying
Agreed. I like the use of audio for ambience/atmosphere, used to indicate building fear, or any emotion really.
Outside of that, the sex scene noises completely break my immersion. Usually because they sound so "porn" fake.
I'd rather my imagination makes them moan, over that.

Just my personal take.
As I have stated my request for something I personally would like (and is not a random uncommon feature or suggestion) and feel would improve the game, I am going to leave it at that. I'm not going to keep cluttering up this thread arguing with people who disagree its quite pointless. I respect that some (many even) others do not like that feature or feel it is implemented poorly on occasion. We are all adults (18+) right? So lets just keep it moving and have a good day.
Still no need to get so upset because others don't share your opinion.
No-one said you were wrong to hold it. I simply showed why it might be unlikely to be taken up.
 

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Agreed. I like the use of audio for ambience/atmosphere, used to indicate building fear, or any emotion really.
Outside of that, the sex scene noises completely break my immersion. Usually because they sound so "porn" fake.
I'd rather my imagination makes them moan, over that.

Just my personal take.
Thats exactly my point. Its just disturbing hearing a bitch moan i a game and notice that the sound was ripped from a porn i have watched an hour earlier. No fun, that has happened to me. Immersion was complete out of the window for me. The prime expample of this was the game Welcome to Hell for me, not because of the used soundtrack that was used while a cutscene was runnig. I dont remember the track anymore only that it was from Nightwish, and holy cow that was so bad. The music has absolutly not fitted to the situation or the editting. IN. NO. FRIGGING. WAY.
Sound ist a might tool to enrich the game if used well, or can ruin it poorly used.
 

Lord Bradley

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Whoa... Literally played this game from fresh to completed today all day with brief pauses. What a journey! :D

I find myself getting bored of the story, or there is something that makes no sense or doesn't blend in with rest of the game often lately in other games. Here? I even read the logs and codexes. Absolutely beautiful atmosphere, despite the violence and ugliness of this universe, but since it's to be expected in this scenario it only adds not ruins. I love that you still have "good" choices even in bad scenarios, even tho I am currently playing the "don't fuck with me" playthrough :D

I saw some posts get into heated arguments about sharing.. but I found no new sharing since few updates ago? You guys are weird. Just disable sharing then or make better choices lol. Personally I hope wife gets to play with some guests of the house, she is the most beautiful female character in this game for me and since husband spends increasingly more time away from home I hate for her to be so lonely.. :p

It feels like every update the production quality increases, and for size of this game I am mind-blown at how much not only content there is, but content with various paths/outcomes/change-of-detail. Simply incredible craftmanship, this game is and will be in a lot of people Hall of Fame lists. Thanks to everyone supporting the project!
 

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Speaking from an entirely personal point of view, I have yet to find an AV game that wasn't HTML and using real porn clips, where the moaning and grunting were either done well/believable/didn't feel out of place or weird... more often than not they take me entirely out of the fiction/immersion, such as it is. But that's just me and your mileage obviously varies.

speaking not from a personal point of view: Z is very good with playing with his soundtrack and puts a lot of effort in ambient music, even for the sex scenes.
I think that the kind of sounds you are expecting are probably a bit disruptive to those music accompaniments, which doesn't make it necessarily undoable, but adds another layer of complexity that is of interest to only a fraction of the potential market.
That said, I can't exclude that some day in the future these extra sound effects might be added...but I expect it to be very much a "when the game is mostly done/the budget is high enough to do it really well and possibly do a whole voice over for the characters" type of deal. He does actually add the very rare and occasional sound bite, like the droplets of blood in a certain Fairy scene, or the sound of a gate or door being slammed open, more often than not in animations/cutscenes, for cinematic effect... but that's about it.

As of today, adding sexy noises during sexy scenes does not appear on the development planning log.
 
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