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xapican

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I think it's always better as a ruler to co-oped religion and use it to legitimize your reign, rather than dismantle it. For example, look what happened when Akhenaten tried to completely change the Egyptian religion, or how the militantly atheistic Soviet state opted to use the Russian Orthodox church in it's fight against the Nazis. Ultimately, if the military is separate from the clergy and you can purge troublesome elements within the top echelons of the priesthood, I don't see the point of throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
No not talking about that, and History gives you the reason.
I'm talking about a hint what the Queen gives that she isn't the one with all the power, and that there are figures behind that rule from the shadows.
I had the intention to replay again these day's and I'll post the corresponding Images
 

Gato21

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No not talking about that, and History gives you the reason.
I'm talking about a hint what the Queen gives that she isn't the one with all the power, and that there are figures behind that rule from the shadows.
I had the intention to replay again these day's and I'll post the corresponding Images
Got ya. Yeah that's usually the case, even in dictatorships and monarchies, there is some power sharing. Eventually, with the MC's help, that might change it to be more in the ruler's favor.
 

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The Queen tells MC that she was raised by the Priests, and they are still, her assessors, when MC and Shani bring her the manuscript from the Zone which Shani found, and there is previous a conversation between Shani and MC in the biblio about the past and that they hide the history from the past.
Don't remember exactly if she tells MC that she is afraid to make a mistake because they will put her down.
Thanks, you are right, I forgot about that part.

But as Gato21 said, it does not have to be a bad thing, as long as the balance of power is in our favor, there is no reason not SHARE it.

(hmm, strange how that word suddenly became red and huge... :unsure:)

((obviously I am talking about sharing a little bit of power with the priests, not about sharing my harem girls! :KEK:))
 

xapican

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Thanks, you are right, I forgot about that part.

But as Gato21 said, it does not have to be a bad thing, as long as the balance of power is in our favor, there is no reason not SHARE it.

(hmm, strange how that word suddenly became red and huge... :unsure:)

((obviously I am talking about sharing a little bit of power with the priests, not about sharing my harem girls! :KEK:))
That, is exactly the point, I'm not talking about being the one and only ruler, and MC is not the type for it either, It is more to unify and give all faction stability and peace so they can strife, the queen order him to put order in the Town, because she needs the resources, from there, and a point where her trade caravans can resupply or seek shelter.
She never mentions the people which are her kingdom.
If MC wants to tip the balance so that the normal people can strive therefore develop a higher civilization, he must "positive" influence the queen in favor of the greater good.
In other words win her trust and get rid of the old greedy and corrupted assessors.
 

jefi2000

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There is no link to patreon but there is one to subscribestar to donate, it's the same thing.

Furthermore, you can do a one-time donation on SS:

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No I meant it might still be worth writing "Patreon" along with the other places people can donate via on the first page rather than having it completely gone, just not make it a direct link to the page seeing having that is a problem now; you know, as a way to let people on here who are wanting to donate but don't want to do it via SS because of their lack of Paypal or whatever know that they can still do it on Patreon, just that they'll have to find the page themselves.

I mean hell, if you go to Zetan's Itch.io page the Patreon link is still there so it's clear he still wants folks to use it. Felt it would be at least be fair considering the nature of this site. To be clear I did fling Zetan a few doubloons the second Patreon started getting rowdy seeing as he's a fair dev who does regular updates.
 
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No I meant it might still be worth writing "Patreon" along with the other places people can donate via on the first page rather than having it completely gone, just not make it a direct link to the page seeing having that is a problem now; you know, as a way to let people on here who are wanting to donate but don't want to do it via SS because of their lack of Paypal or whatever know that they can still do it on Patreon, just that they'll have to find the page themselves.

I mean hell, if you go to Zetan's Itch.io page the Patreon link is still there so it's clear he still wants folks to use it. Felt it would be at least be fair considering the nature of this site. To be clear I did fling Zetan a few doubloons the second Patreon started getting rowdy seeing as he's a fair dev who does regular updates.
I have seen people on the dev team frequent this page so if they wanted to they could reach out to a moderator or something and have the patreon link up.

I think that they are just trying to push people towards subscribestar. And I personally hope more supporters move to subscribestar so patreon cannot screw over Zetan like they just did.
 
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I have seen people on the dev team frequent this page so if they wanted to they could reach out to a moderator or something and have the patreon link up.

I think that they are just trying to push people towards subscribestar. And I personally hope more supporters move to subscribestar so patreon cannot screw over Zetan like they just did.
What exactly happened? Like I get the page was under review for a bit but now it's up again. Normally they have an issue with content of the thing being made but the page usually stays down until such a time that the problematic stuff is gone but that doesn't seem to be the case this time?
 

xapican

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What exactly happened? Like I get the page was under review for a bit but now it's up again. Normally they have an issue with content of the thing being made but the page usually stays down until such a time that the problematic stuff is gone but that doesn't seem to be the case this time?
Look, the problems with Dev an Patreon are solved, you can pm one of the dev staff members to know what happend, all the Problems with Pateon are now solved and the page is up running.
Obviously they don't want to go public with what happend. else they would have made a statement already.
Edit: Most important the game is untouched. and nothing is altered.
 

jefi2000

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Look, the problems with Dev an Patreon are solved, you can pm one of the dev staff members to know what happend, all the Problems with Pateon are now solved and the page is up running.
Obviously they don't want to go public with what happend. else they would have made a statement already.
Edit: Most important the game is untouched. and nothing is altered.
I mean, in the update they said they were " I will prepare a more detailed message about this and other small changes soon, nothing big though, don't worry."

Just wondered if that'd happened already.
 
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D4rkK1ng

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Just played this VN and all i can say is wow....
The scene of MC and Shani and Queen in the baths was something else..
The visuals are top notch the characters very good (most of them)... great world building and the post apocalyptic theme is quite refreshing ,furthermore it has quite good story and mystery (why the world became like this (probably ww3), there is solution about the poisoned world? any utopia exist? ivy origins),
i really liked it, A Tier for me .. and one of my favorites from now on.
(btw shani and ivy are the best)
 
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Penumbral Evanescence

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The scene of MC and Shani and Queen in the baths was something else..
That scene was indeed very sensual. Loved the build-up during the scene. Perhaps in subsequent updates, a 3some between Shani and Queen Merneith won't be that far-fetched of a reality.... :sneaky:

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On another semi-related note, those thermae baths are amazing. Wish I had something constructed like that at my home. Small scale of course. That would be pretty amazing. Although, cleaning up after the fact might be a bit problematic.... :devilish:
 
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