Ren'Py Desert Stalker [v0.17.1.2 Steam] [Zetan]

[Machete]

Is it possible to avoidable bald men?

Only if you brush mc beard upward.

 

[KhaiFirst]

good game. . .

 

[Steuan]

A PDF walkthrough, for those who use them. It might contain errors/omissions. No guarantees about future updates, sorry.

8th edition, for game version v0.15 Beta. (Probably still works for v0.15c Public too, but feel free to point out if it doesn't.)

Does this work for v0.15c public too? Anyone can confirm?

 

[LewdLife]

Y

There are two alternatives:

1) The girls are your biological daughters in a society where incest is societally acceptable.

2) The girls are so-called "Children of Zeta" which means they are children of the temple prostitutes who are being placed in the homes of citizens to complete their upbringing.

Although I prefer the first, the second is actually innovative and fits well with the game's lore.

Ya 2nd option makes more sense, if not directly, to me it felt like it was implied MC's wife is yet to bear her first child


Even mathematically it makes less sense, if you see according to "GAME'S WORLD", let's say MC married his lady when she's 16 yrs.

But now MC literally left his first daughter (not his own blood) for her FIRST SOLO MISSION, quite dangerous in that kind of world. So assuming everything, she should at least be 18+ in that world to venture out for solo missions.

Now, MC's wife looks to be of age group of roughly 27 - 33, if MC had only one daughter age would have tallied.
But, MC has another younger daughter who should atleast be (after accessing her mental maturity level) 14+, but for safety reasons and rules of our actual world we can also think her actually to be of at least 18+.
So whether she's 14+(only strictly according to game world) or 18+(reality standards) nothing adds up mathematically to the age of MC's wife.

But given that they ARE all really blood related, then both MC and his wife are quite past 35, MC would probably be 40+ and his wife 36+(ages of other girls add up in this scenario), but picture wise MC appears to me to be less than 35 years old at least and his wife less than 32 years old (now ages of other girls don't add up if they're blood related).

But given that MC's wife has an elder sister who has a daughter who appears to be quite around 18 yrs of age, also that the age difference between MC's wife and her elder sister seemed to be around 2 - 4 years, it should be around 12 years of time that should have passed from the date of marriage of MC.

But then, is MC less fertile to have no more children than 2 or no children in other scenario?
Because having a wife like that and having a social standing of stalker (almost like an Earl), one would have more than 2 offspring in the marriage period of 12+ years.
But then, it's shown that MC would have impregnated the Priestess so the problem is not with the MC, may be the other partner with issues?

If you don't care much about specifics and each and every details, you won't be having questions, but when focusing on details, ages won't tally properly, when we're thinking it's incest and the 2 girls are MC's daughters.

Maybe with further releases everything's cleared up or maybe these things will remain foggy and choice based.

Whatever be the specifics, I like the game with it having to both enable and disable the choice of incest.

*A society, very open to sex, no issues with incest...* - yeah sounds nice, but for how long? Given every household is somehow doing incest (everyone is a degenerate) "secretly or openly" in each generation compulsively that society will start falling from 10th generation, as by that generation almost everyone would be blood related in the close knit city of this game, and it looks like it's more than 300 yrs past apocalyptic events and luckily not everyone is a incestuous bastard in the city even if some might be and they employ a unique approach to maintain the population of city.

 

[Yngling]

Y


Ya 2nd option makes more sense, if not directly, to me it felt like it was implied MC's wife is yet to bear her first child


Even mathematically it makes less sense, if you see according to "GAME'S WORLD", let's say MC married his lady when she's 16 yrs.

But now MC literally left his first daughter (not his own blood) for her FIRST SOLO MISSION, quite dangerous in that kind of world. So assuming everything, she should at least be 18+ in that world to venture out for solo missions.

Now, MC's wife looks to be of age group of roughly 27 - 33, if MC had only one daughter age would have tallied.
But, MC has another younger daughter who should atleast be (after accessing her mental maturity level) 14+, but for safety reasons and rules of our actual world we can also think her actually to be of at least 18+.
So whether she's 14+(only strictly according to game world) or 18+(reality standards) nothing adds up mathematically to the age of MC's wife.

But given that they ARE all really blood related, then both MC and his wife are quite past 35, MC would probably be 40+ and his wife 36+(ages of other girls add up in this scenario), but picture wise MC appears to me to be less than 35 years old at least and his wife less than 32 years old (now ages of other girls don't add up if they're blood related).

But given that MC's wife has an elder sister who has a daughter who appears to be quite around 18 yrs of age, also that the age difference between MC's wife and her elder sister seemed to be around 2 - 4 years, it should be around 12 years of time that should have passed from the date of marriage of MC.

But then, is MC less fertile to have no more children than 2 or no children in other scenario?
Because having a wife like that and having a social standing of stalker (almost like an Earl), one would have more than 2 offspring in the marriage period of 12+ years.
But then, it's shown that MC would have impregnated the Priestess so the problem is not with the MC, may be the other partner with issues?

If you don't care much about specifics and each and every details, you won't be having questions, but when focusing on details, ages won't tally properly, when we're thinking it's incest and the 2 girls are MC's daughters.

Maybe with further releases everything's cleared up or maybe these things will remain foggy and choice based.

Whatever be the specifics, I like the game with it having to both enable and disable the choice of incest.

*A society, very open to sex, no issues with incest...* - yeah sounds nice, but for how long? Given every household is somehow doing incest (everyone is a degenerate) "secretly or openly" in each generation compulsively that society will start falling from 10th generation, as by that generation almost everyone would be blood related in the close knit city of this game, and it looks like it's more than 300 yrs past apocalyptic events and luckily not everyone is a incestuous bastard in the city even if some might be and they employ a unique approach to maintain the population of city.

With regards to the ages, I think of Zahra as being around 35-40, so that would be no problem, regardless of the actual age of the girls.

It does also bother me somewhat that there are only 2 daughters. Especially since it seems like Zaton would probably want to have a son as well. (despite that, as per porn VN logic, having a son means the father must be killed somehow )

I also recall Zahra mentioning in one of the latest updates that she wouldn't mind getting pregnant again. If she is still able to have children, it is indeed strange that there aren't more than two.

Regarding incest, what it does is enhance both the good and the bad characteristics. If you are conciously avoiding the bad characteristics, then you can get away with a smallish gene pool for a long time. The problem with humans is that they are often not thinking about physical traits but about the size of the inheritance, which is why it sometimes went horribly wrong in the familiy tree of various royal families.

 

[alex13_zen]

Is it possible to change my mind and enable the Shani solo content option now that I'm in the latest chapter? I don't want to start a new game just for that alone.

 

[Yngling]

Is it possible to change my mind and enable the Shani solo content option now that I'm in the latest chapter? I don't want to start a new game just for that alone.

No idea, but it is worth it to start over for the Shani solo content. Not wanking material but story-wise and visually it's great.
If you enable "skip after choices" (and perhaps also "skip unseen content") and press Tab, then it should not take that long.

 

[muschi26]

Y


Ya 2nd option makes more sense, if not directly, to me it felt like it was implied MC's wife is yet to bear her first child


Even mathematically it makes less sense, if you see according to "GAME'S WORLD", let's say MC married his lady when she's 16 yrs.

But now MC literally left his first daughter (not his own blood) for her FIRST SOLO MISSION, quite dangerous in that kind of world. So assuming everything, she should at least be 18+ in that world to venture out for solo missions.

Not necessarily. Child soldiers are a thing, and, to my understanding, militia groups in countries like Afghanistan will recruit boys 15 or younger; I don’t see why the same couldn’t happen in the postapocalypse.

Now, MC's wife looks to be of age group of roughly 27 - 33, if MC had only one daughter age would have tallied.
But, MC has another younger daughter who should atleast be (after accessing her mental maturity level) 14+, but for safety reasons and rules of our actual world we can also think her actually to be of at least 18+.
So whether she's 14+(only strictly according to game world) or 18+(reality standards) nothing adds up mathematically to the age of MC's wife.

But given that they ARE all really blood related, then both MC and his wife are quite past 35, MC would probably be 40+ and his wife 36+(ages of other girls add up in this scenario), but picture wise MC appears to me to be less than 35 years old at least and his wife less than 32 years old (now ages of other girls don't add up if they're blood related).

But given that MC's wife has an elder sister who has a daughter who appears to be quite around 18 yrs of age, also that the age difference between MC's wife and her elder sister seemed to be around 2 - 4 years, it should be around 12 years of time that should have passed from the date of marriage of MC.

If we assume Shani is 18, then Zahra could be 34, having had her when she was 16. (In reality child mothers can be a lot younger, but she didn’t look younger than 15 or 16 in the flashbacks, so let’s go with that.) In this case, Ain would be 16, Rabiah would be 36 (she would have had Nadia at 18, who would then be the same age as Shani), and Zaton would have room to be 5 years older than Zahra and still be in his thirties (39).

(Although realistically, Zaton would probably be a bit older: he looks a lot like his modern-day self in the flashback, so it’s probably he was older than 21; maybe 26—though he could very well have been up to 30—which would put him around 10 years older than Zahra, and around 44 in the present time. We’d just have to accept him as an exceptionally well-preserved forty-year-old.)

But then, is MC less fertile to have no more children than 2 or no children in other scenario?
Because having a wife like that and having a social standing of stalker (almost like an Earl), one would have more than 2 offspring in the marriage period of 12+ years.
But then, it's shown that MC would have impregnated the Priestess so the problem is not with the MC, may be the other partner with issues?

That is sort of strange. One explanation is that they did have more children, but they died in infancy. Another is that Zaton was really busy with stalker work for a while, on top of not getting lucky with timing when he was around Zahra.

If you don't care much about specifics and each and every details, you won't be having questions, but when focusing on details, ages won't tally properly, when we're thinking it's incest and the 2 girls are MC's daughters.

Maybe with further releases everything's cleared up or maybe these things will remain foggy and choice based.

Whatever be the specifics, I like the game with it having to both enable and disable the choice of incest.

*A society, very open to sex, no issues with incest...* - yeah sounds nice, but for how long? Given every household is somehow doing incest (everyone is a degenerate) "secretly or openly" in each generation compulsively that society will start falling from 10th generation, as by that generation almost everyone would be blood related in the close knit city of this game, and it looks like it's more than 300 yrs past apocalyptic events and luckily not everyone is a incestuous bastard in the city even if some might be and they employ a unique approach to maintain the population of city.

Just because incest is tolerated doesn’t mean it’s valorized or especially common. It could even be a particularity of the stalker class, and not something other people can indulge in. You could also hand-wave it with radiation or something, the same way everyone has porcelainwhite skin despite going out in the sun half-naked.

 

[wildride69]

RenPy, Steam and other musings.
Hi everyone, Paz here.
TL;DR: We probably have to migrate to a new RenPy version, poll link at the end.
As you may (or may not) know, we have been slowly gearing up for an eventual Steam release of Desert Stalker. While the actual release is probably a good few months away, there are a lot of things to be done beforehand and a fair bit of planning ahead.
This involves things not directly related to the game itself, things like setting up business accounts, store page, making promotional material, getting reviewed, etc. etc.
It's a slow process but we're chugging along. One thing that an eventual Steam release provides an opportunity for, is reworking the codebase, something that we discussed for a few reasons:

• There are a bunch of underlying systems that were slowly developed throughout the last couple of years that could definitely do with a touch-up now that we have a clearer idea of how those systems should work and how they interact with each other. For instance, the quest log system was not built to have multiple concurrent or optional steps and whenever we wanted to add something like this, it had to be done in a "hacky" way to maintain save compatibily.
• In order to support Steam integration, potential achievements or other things ranging from mandatory to nice-to-have, we need to revisit various parts of the code, so it provides a nice opportunity for cleanup and housekeeping.
• The last and probably most important reason is RenPy itself. Desert Stalker is built with RenPy 7.5.3 which will become end-of-life as of this month (May 2024). That means no new features or bugfixes, which might not be an issue right now but could become one in the future, and we would prefer to be a bit future-proof. Moving to RenPy 8 is something that will eventually need to happen so this opportunity is as good as any.

Now, there is a slight issue with this last point. RenPy 8.x only supports 64-bit releases, and future versions of RenPy intend to only support Windows 10 and later, dropping support for Windows 7.
My suspicion is that there is quite a good number of players that would be affected, but I want to make sure.
So, in order to have a bit more informed view on the matter and see what the best course of action is, there's a link to a poll below about which OS you're playing Desert Stalker on. It also includes MacOS options due to versions after Catalina requiring apps to be notarized, but that is a lesser point.
Anyway, here's the link and apologies for the wall of text:

You must be registered to see the links

And of course, if you have any questions regarding the above, let us know.

See you tomorrow for the usual devlog!

 

[Wolfeszorn]

hm. the link doesn´t seem to work.



WE ARE SORRY, THE PAGE YOU REQUESTED
CANNOT BE FOUND
The URL may be misspelled or the page you're looking for is no longer available.

 

[dolfe67]

hm. the link doesn´t seem to work.



WE ARE SORRY, THE PAGE YOU REQUESTED
CANNOT BE FOUND
The URL may be misspelled or the page you're looking for is no longer available.

Copy/paste the link, don't click on it

 

[wildride69]

Copy/paste the link, don't click on it

Thanks removed the auto link and it's working now.

 

[Arkanae]

Thanks for actually asking! instead of assuming based on some random download metrics. This is the way game dev should be run!

As an apparently niche OS user, I also appreciate the competent packaging of the game releases into their own independent folder with the correct executable bits set. You would think it's obvious, but a good 30% of game devs don't get it right, so thanks for not fucking it up.

I would also advocate for a compressed / lower resolution option being available. I like those sleek renders... but I am watching this on a plain 2HD laptop. Such pixel goodness is wasted on me, and all hosting solutions (including itch.io) choke on such large downloads. I would actually suggest, if you don't want to compromise, to offer a torrent version by default.

 

[Machete]

Is it possible to change my mind and enable the Shani solo content option now that I'm in the latest chapter? I don't want to start a new game just for that alone.

there are mods that enable to mess with any game variables, but i think it's safer to start over.

 

[PaxHadrian17]

RenPy, Steam and other musings.
Hi everyone, Paz here.
TL;DR: We probably have to migrate to a new RenPy version, poll link at the end.
As you may (or may not) know, we have been slowly gearing up for an eventual Steam release of Desert Stalker. While the actual release is probably a good few months away, there are a lot of things to be done beforehand and a fair bit of planning ahead.
This involves things not directly related to the game itself, things like setting up business accounts, store page, making promotional material, getting reviewed, etc. etc.
It's a slow process but we're chugging along. One thing that an eventual Steam release provides an opportunity for, is reworking the codebase, something that we discussed for a few reasons:

• There are a bunch of underlying systems that were slowly developed throughout the last couple of years that could definitely do with a touch-up now that we have a clearer idea of how those systems should work and how they interact with each other. For instance, the quest log system was not built to have multiple concurrent or optional steps and whenever we wanted to add something like this, it had to be done in a "hacky" way to maintain save compatibily.
• In order to support Steam integration, potential achievements or other things ranging from mandatory to nice-to-have, we need to revisit various parts of the code, so it provides a nice opportunity for cleanup and housekeeping.
• The last and probably most important reason is RenPy itself. Desert Stalker is built with RenPy 7.5.3 which will become end-of-life as of this month (May 2024). That means no new features or bugfixes, which might not be an issue right now but could become one in the future, and we would prefer to be a bit future-proof. Moving to RenPy 8 is something that will eventually need to happen so this opportunity is as good as any.

Now, there is a slight issue with this last point. RenPy 8.x only supports 64-bit releases, and future versions of RenPy intend to only support Windows 10 and later, dropping support for Windows 7.
My suspicion is that there is quite a good number of players that would be affected, but I want to make sure.
So, in order to have a bit more informed view on the matter and see what the best course of action is, there's a link to a poll below about which OS you're playing Desert Stalker on. It also includes MacOS options due to versions after Catalina requiring apps to be notarized, but that is a lesser point.
Anyway, here's the link and apologies for the wall of text:

You must be registered to see the links

And of course, if you have any questions regarding the above, let us know.

See you tomorrow for the usual devlog!
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Thanks for the share!

This makes a lot of sense, especially with the planning and execution to get a Steam release out there.

This feels like we may need to do a full restart once the 'under the hood' changes are completed.

I was actually going to go with a brand new playthrough once we got the next rev (due to all the early reworked content) but now I think I will hold for these changes.

Cheers!!

 

[Leinad_Sevla]

The whole town

Yeah, sure, why not. Let everyone have a go at her.

 

[Metal_Lust]

The (local) church has kept pretty good records in many cases. I can trace my family back to around 1400. It can, however, be tricky to access these records. Church records (as well as civil records) don't really count the amount of stillborn babies, only those who survived until baptism (or civil registration).

But even in 1800 medicine was still pretty primitive.

Have a look here:

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and here:

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You'll notice the curve going down around 1850 and then more sharply after about 1920.

If you count my example, then you have an "official" infant mortality rate (not counting stillborns) 0-5 years of 2 out of 5, so 40%, which is very close to (even a bit under) above linked graph.


I think he meant it in a different way

Pretty much.
They used to merry as early as 14-15 years old back in the day and they started having child much early (say as early as 16 - 18 in some cases) and if a woman didn't have children by her mid-late 20's she was considered an "old lass" (not sure if they had the term elsewhere, but) technically the attitude was much the same as it is now towards women in their late 30's by some "red pill coaches" and shit.

Everyone are talking about the "Baby boomers" as if they decided to start having lots of kids all of a sudden, when in reality it's the other way around.

This was always the norm until that moment and what changed was that children suddenly topped dying at the same high rate.

 

[harem.king]

iirc, default is "step-daughter" to avoid patreon ban.
But I guess in that setting, anything would make sence - even junior wives in harem, while Zahra is a matron.

patreon ban step-cest too

 

[f45450]

patreon ban step-cest too

Hmm actually yes, but was that always the case? Back in 2017, even "incest" was not on the guidelines.
I think the guidelines were redacted in 2024. And then DS was banned and unbanned.

 

[The Senior Perv]

Dev log 05.05.2024
ahora mismo

It's been another week of Lirah, well at least mostly. And since it was suggested and the idea was nice, I also quickly added another way of Ain "greeting" you in the morning

... from under the blanket.

Render progress:
Queen / Lirah / Talia: 65%
Date with Zahra: 60%
Igor visits Kateryna: 90%

Reworks:
First return home / Ain's introduction (d1c): 100%
Shani's introduction (d1d): 100%
Kyra in basement (d4a): 100%
Shani's workout (d4c + d5a): 100%
Ain's new room (d4f): 100%
Short distant Ivy cutscene (d4h): 100%
Lirah brings Emilia (d5h): 100%

Animations: 0%
Coding: 0%