Please don't ever quote me again. I literally have no idea what the fuck you are talking about, and that's been the case since 4 years ago, when I first joined this site.
Ren'Py Desert Stalker [v0.19.4] [Zetan]
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just add to Ignore list. You won't get alerts or have to see the strange posts anymore.
But it's fun trying to decypher his ... idontknowwhatsthat
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well, he also falls into facepalm-fag category. Always facepalming people with different views, so that's an instant ignore for me.But it's fun trying to decypher his ... idontknowwhatsthat
Yngling
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"Might makes right" vs. "The Laws of Hospitality".
It's rather simple.
You may be the strongest guy alive but against 10 reasonably strong guys you won't have a chance. Neither will you have a chance against 100 fairly weak guys.
In other words, in order to survive, you need allies.
You may get allies by bullying them into submission but honey works better than vinegar.
Instead of ruling by fear, be it actual fear for their lives, the fear of being cast out or just the fear of being demeaned, you give your allies something they want.
Omar can be the first category: he fears being cast out of a profitable business town and/or being publicly shamed. Thus he puts up with whatever Zaton does to him.
Igor is the second category: he's an ally you can actually trust because there is mutual respect. Igor giving Kateryna to Zaton is also beneficial for Igor, and, in exchange, Zaton treats Kateryna with respect. It also affects the sharing: Igor respects Zaton even when Zaton shares his girls, but similarly respects him if he doesn't want to share.
It's rather simple.
You may be the strongest guy alive but against 10 reasonably strong guys you won't have a chance. Neither will you have a chance against 100 fairly weak guys.
In other words, in order to survive, you need allies.
You may get allies by bullying them into submission but honey works better than vinegar.
Instead of ruling by fear, be it actual fear for their lives, the fear of being cast out or just the fear of being demeaned, you give your allies something they want.
Omar can be the first category: he fears being cast out of a profitable business town and/or being publicly shamed. Thus he puts up with whatever Zaton does to him.
Igor is the second category: he's an ally you can actually trust because there is mutual respect. Igor giving Kateryna to Zaton is also beneficial for Igor, and, in exchange, Zaton treats Kateryna with respect. It also affects the sharing: Igor respects Zaton even when Zaton shares his girls, but similarly respects him if he doesn't want to share.
dolfe67
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I'd say he respects Zaton a tad more if he shares. It's like a friend invite you to play the console and doesn't lend you the controller
i dont pass him the controler because he would drop my kdI'd say he respects Zaton a tad more if he shares. It's like a friend invite you to play the console and doesn't lend you the controller
Imo the people saying the sharing route is a power move are doing some crazy mental gynastics how is that more of a power move than going to that mans house and fucking in his living while he cant do anything about it
WuzzyFuzzy
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"living room(?)" Because in one case the MC is giving something (a gift) to someone of lessor power, so to speak, in order to create indebtedness. The receiver of the gift doesn't necessarily see beyond the gift itself. So, as someone else stated, the receiver is now an ally.
In your case the MC would cause resentment if he cucked (literally by taking the other man's wife; or figuratively by taking his own wife while the man could only watch) the man and rubbed it in his face which would cause resentment. Resentment breeds bitterness; bitterness breeds revenge. No more ally. As is described in Erikson's Malazan series, it's the difference between cold iron and hot iron. Cold iron plays the long game better. Hot iron acts quickly, violently, immediately, brashly...without regard for the long game.
Regardless, I rarely get sucked into these hypotheticals, but the "mental gymnastics" are sometimes good exercise. Thanks.
i get the building alies part but you make it sound like its a written contract that if broken is punishable by death. what happens when you want him to back you on something but you oposition shared his wife and two daughters while you only shared your wife. That indebtedness now dosnt mean shit. So who hold the power in this situation i would say its not you. I guess we should open a free use gloryhole for all the women no one would surely ever move against the mc then.
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I think people are overthinking this. The MC is a strong and secure character. He can share with his allies because why not? He has no fear of losing his women, it can only enhance his reputation with others, and it amuses him to do so. If he never shared, always hid his women away...then he comes across as an insecure coward. It would be totally out of character, especially given the customs of where he lives.
Now, I do agree, in the Omar situation...while the MC is fine to fuck the daughter and wife...he also should help Omar out to be less of a sniveling craven.
Z: if you even touch my car i will fucking murder you
Also Z: hey why dont you fuck my daughter and wife in the ass, its all cool.
just lmao
Also Z: hey why dont you fuck my daughter and wife in the ass, its all cool.
just lmao
punisher2099
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Sharing was put in this vn because someone wanted the fetish it had nothing to do with the lore. No need to make it more complicated than that.
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Gato21
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True, prime example of the mental gymnastics that some of these cuck enthusiasts use. No don't get me wrong, cucking Omar is definitely on my wish list, and judging by the last update, we are on the right trajectory. The difference between me and them? I have respect for the dev and the story. They just want chubs even to the detriment of the continuity of that world.
punisher2099
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I suspect they've played too many whoretagonist games and expect female characters to act that way in all games.
Gato21
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Why the fuck is it his responsibility to fix Omar? Hopefully in the future (and likely) I want to be able to cuck and humiliate him. Then, depending if he is a traveling merchant or not, have the raider sisters ambush him, torture him, play with his guts,brutally kill him, and have the MC take Rabiah and the niece as part of his harem. Partly, because he can and partly just to piss off the Omar fanboys. Since when has this thread become a F95 cuck containment zone?
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WuzzyFuzzy
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This is why I rarely participate in these hypotheticals on this site. They inevitably devolve into ad hominems and personal attacks. What started as a discussion regarding hypothetical reasons for how a person might behave in a fictional game with fictional characters in a fictional world morphs into judgments and strawman arguments towards real people in a real world.
Oh well....
Oh well....
Walter Victor
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Since when has this thread become an F95 fetish-shaming zone?
I agree with some posts, disagree with others, but I see no reason to personally assault those who disagree with my likes or opinions.
The developers have introduced some very controversial paths into their game. It is inevitable that it would cause dissension, and perhaps inevitable that some people would take it personally. Perhaps it's time for the moderators to step in and at least stop the mudslinging.
I agree with some posts, disagree with others, but I see no reason to personally assault those who disagree with my likes or opinions.
The developers have introduced some very controversial paths into their game. It is inevitable that it would cause dissension, and perhaps inevitable that some people would take it personally. Perhaps it's time for the moderators to step in and at least stop the mudslinging.
Gato21
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Debating the hypothetical is fine within the bounds imposed by the dev. When it gets kind of ridiculous and irksome is when that is disregarded and their kink is flagrantly and flippantly plastered on every page to the detriment of any other hypothetical discussion.