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As far as I can tell, it's not talking about 0.19, it's referring to an ancient scene from earlier versions of the game where you could sort of threaten to sell Kira. I can assume that with the introduction of this new scene of selling her, players who want to see it, will have to roll back to the moment when she was still living in the basement of Zaton, which will take a lot of time, coz the saves from those versions are definitely incompatible with the new ones and for the sake of one optional scene of selling, will have to start a new game.

Personally for me this new scene is completely pointless, if only because it deprives us of a lot of the main content with Kira, not to mention the fact that we'll be deprived of all future scenes with her within the raiders arc.
Yeah, I just noticed that. I don't usually read the dev logs, so I just assumed they were talking about the original.

I think I agree, though. Even if you meet again in the future, I still think it'll miss a lot of fun. But who knows. I restart each time anyway, so it may be worth checking out to see if you still find the superior twin :).
 

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Pepper is my favorite, I'm happy to know we'll have more of her in this update, I thought we wouldn't, and I was really disappointed.
Even I think it's exaggerated how much I like her, this game has so many beautiful models, but none of the others excite me like Pepper does.
I don't think she's a main girl, but I hope she becomes one.
 

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Not exactly another group, but there is Mandisa (Shani's teach) who really needs a scene. She should be getting a scene with Shani. And she is a dom, so setting the scene with the MC didn't make much sense. But now that she is shown clearly interested in Shani, I can see the way... thru a 3some.

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I can see the MC joining Mandisa in the scene with Shani, making it a Dom/Dom/Sub scene.
I don´t really want Mc to "tame" Mandisa, it´s more fun if she´s sort of competition.

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Dev log 14.12.25

I don't know about you, but I think legs are great. One girl especially has quite long and elegant ones, and instead of showing them off, she's wearing that stupid lab coat. But in 0.20, for a brief moment, she doesn't; the obvious result is that you drag her into the bedroom. But what happens if Fangs finds out that you're taking yet another pet from her? And who cares anyway?
Sometimes, unplanned scenes make it into an update. This is one of them. I actually had it done in two and a half (long) days. That's another 102 (very hot) renders on the list.
But aside from this, I made significant progress in the main scene, and I also finally (after three updates of promising I would) rendered an alternative scene for dealing with Kyra in your basement: Selling her off. And yes, you will meet her again after that, somewhere in 0.22. Playing like a douche who hates pink pigtails now has a meaning!
So yeah, a very busy week, but I am excited to give it a good push before the holidays. This year I am visiting family over New Year's, so I sadly have to skip two dev logs after next week. Though I will be doing a New Year's post as usual, of course!
Render progress:

- Elder's Quest pt.2: 70%
- Stealing Pepper: 100%
Temple:
- Intro: 100%
- Jamila: 20%
- Isra: 50%
Basement:
- Ain: 65%
Other:
Script writing: 8%
Animations: 55%

(Note: I use percentages as a sort of progress through the scene script itself. The last 5% can take longer than the first 30% - it is not always proportional to the render amount.)
Pepper scene? Yes please! I did not see that coming, but surprises are part of life. I am hoping other mutants will get their scene eventually, but this one is very welcomed, as Pepper is my favorite mutant (technically Ivy is, but I don´t count her with the others).
I might make a save where Kyra is a sold to slavery, but I much prefer the path she is on now. Besides, seems like it´s taking time away from the current paths we have and all the scenes and girls that are waiting for more content.
I´m sure the Dev will make it super hot, that´s almost inevitable, but I can´t help but feel that we´ve been getting some side stuff that seems like filler.
 
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I can see the MC joining Mandisa in the scene with Shani, making it a Dom/Dom/Sub scene.
I don´t really want Mc to "tame" Mandisa, it´s more fun if she´s sort of competition.
I would like to tame her, but if we look at things realistically, Mandisa, like Zaton, already has a well-established personality, and the only way to make her submissive would be to completely break her (but there would have to be reasons for that, coz Zaton is not a villain). But overall, I like your idea of competition that you propose...Let's say that the winner of this competition temporarily (in role-play form) obeys the loser. It is clear that Mandisa will be the loser, but in this form it would make sense.
 
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I would like to tame her, but if we look at things realistically, Mandisa, like Zaton, already has a well-established personality, and the only way to make her submissive would be to completely break her (but there would have to be reasons for that, coz Zaton is not a villain). But overall, I like your idea of competition that you propose...Let's say that the winner of this competition temporarily (in role-play form) obeys the loser. It is clear that Mandisa will be the loser, but in this form it would make sense.
My idea of competition between is just around Shani. Shani leans both ways and she´s interested in both of them. Having them dominate Shani in a FFM threesome would be awesome. I don´t know why Mandisa would be the clear loser, is it because Zaton is the MC?
 
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Meanwhile Kyra is getting scenes back to back, but no signs of any zahra content:cry::cry:
This is what I mean when I say these new additions to the game take away screen time from already established characters. There´s already so many characters that it´s inevitable that some are left on the sidelines for a while, if he keeps adding more then it might be another year before we see more content with Ivy, Zahra, Nadia or Rabiah, just to name a few.
 

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My idea of competition between is just around Shani. Shani leans both ways and she´s interested in both of them. Having them dominate Shani in a FFM threesome would be awesome. I don´t know why Mandisa would be the clear loser, is it because Zaton is the MC?
I get the distinct impression Shani would be a temporary or at most occasional side hustle for Mandi, as the latter already has what appears to be a solid relationship w/her toyboy husband, and is clearly already a busy woman with a lot to keep her occupied.

She also clearly respects Shani as a stalker, so likely isn't expecting to dom, tho the CYOA path might be there, if the dev decides to put it in.
 
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I would like to tame her, but if we look at things realistically, Mandisa, like Zaton, already has a well-established personality, and the only way to make her submissive would be to completely break her (but there would have to be reasons for that, coz Zaton is not a villain). But overall, I like your idea of competition that you propose...Let's say that the winner of this competition temporarily (in role-play form) obeys the loser. It is clear that Mandisa will be the loser, but in this form it would make sense.
Given that MC was stated to already have made an approach of some kind (or at least had proximity) but landed nothing, as Mandi indicated he had already sniffed around to no avail, she VERY likely ain't breaking, as she is HEAVILY wired for dominance, herself.

In fact, she sems FAR more aggressively dom than MC, as he never CRUELLY mistreats slaves, even when breaking them, but she ABSOLUTELY does, in our sight. She clearly very much enjoys personally benefitting from the slave trade, seems 100% in on dehumanizing slaves, and punishes even minor infractions with harsh discipline.

I don't see her breaking if MC gets pushy (which he already either declined to do, or failed at): more like duel to the death because like repels like and she ain't havin' it, and GL to MC on that, as she's pro enough that he trusted sending Shani to her for combatives/tactics training when he was away, and she knows weapons sh1t even he doesn't (like how to properly operate a crossbow).

IMO, anyway, tho evidence sems to support it.
 

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Given that MC was stated to already have made an approach of some kind (or at least had proximity) but landed nothing, as Mandi indicated he had already sniffed around to no avail, she VERY likely ain't breaking, as she is HEAVILY wired for dominance, herself.

In fact, she sems FAR more aggressively dom than MC, as he never CRUELLY mistreats slaves, even when breaking them, but she ABSOLUTELY does, in our sight. She clearly very much enjoys personally benefitting from the slave trade, seems 100% in on dehumanizing slaves, and punishes even minor infractions with harsh discipline.

I don't see her breaking if MC gets pushy (which he already either declined to do, or failed at): more like duel to the death because like repels like and she ain't havin' it, and GL to MC on that, as she's pro enough that he trusted sending Shani to her for combatives/tactics training when he was away, and she knows weapons sh1t even he doesn't (like how to properly operate a crossbow).

IMO, anyway, tho evidence sems to support it.
If Zaton tried to make Mandisa his slave, it would definitely end up that she would make him a slave, and probably his entire family.
 
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If Zaton tried to make Mandisa his slave, it would definitely end up that she would make him a slave, and probably his entire family.
Sad thing is you are likely 100% literally correct, tho I suspect she respects Shani enough to work some sort of deal w/her.

Mandi seems pretty damn vicious, in a disciplined way. She may well be a psychopath. Psychopaths are not generally raving psychotics, but oft have strong learned social discipline and integration. Many look exactly like her, psychologically.

It is also possible Merneith might step in, as she has her own plans that conflict w/such outcomes.

What i'm seing is Zaton need to fight with Mandisa and if he win she is gonna be his slave/hareem. Thats the only way...
IMO she'd die first, fighting to the last drop of blood. She really ain't the bend-over-grrl type.
 

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IMO she'd die first, fighting to the last drop of blood. She really ain't the bend-over-grrl type.
No, but pretty sure she respect aggrement. Just like when Zaton fight Merneith, if i remember correctly Zaton always lose to her in the past so she still think she can win easly but what if this time Zaton is winning and the one who lose have to keep his/her word. That is the way Zaton make her his slave :WeSmart:
 

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No, but pretty sure she respect aggrement. Just like when Zaton fight Merneith, if i remember correctly Zaton always lose to her in the past so she still think she can win easly but what if this time Zaton is winning and the one who lose have to keep his/her word. That is the way Zaton make her his slave :WeSmart:
Thats why I wanna tame her so bad lol. Zaton have always been the Alpha of this game but Mandisa is in another whole level of Domination. She’s no regular girl she’s both mentally and physically more powerful than Zaton and the thought of challenging someone above you is very electrifying and arousing :whistle:
 
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No, but pretty sure she respect aggrement. Just like when Zaton fight Merneith, if i remember correctly Zaton always lose to her in the past so she still think she can win easly but what if this time Zaton is winning and the one who lose have to keep his/her word. That is the way Zaton make her his slave :WeSmart:
I hear what you're saying, but Mandi and Merneith couldn't be more different.

Merneith WANTED to lose. That much is obvious. Also, she is well-trained, but not THAT well-trained. Likely, even Shani knows more than Merneith, while MC knew Mandi was the real deal, combatively, so sent Shani to learn with her.

Mandi has real-world combat skills and extensive experience, as well as a trained warrior's physique (tho, tbf, I suspect Merneith may be a bit "engineered" under the hood, physically).

And, again, the queen secretly WANTED TO LOSE and get fucked hard by the MC. She wanted it BADLY. Mandi, OtOH, seemingly really, REALLY doesn't want that, at all, and gives the strong impression of a woman who wouldn't accept slavery (or even just sub) upon herself.

At least, those are the impressions dialogue has given me, so far.


Thats why I wanna tame her so bad lol. Zaton have always been the Alpha of this game but Mandisa is in another whole level of Domination. She’s no regular girl she’s both mentally and physically more powerful than Zaton and the thought of challenging someone above you is very electrifying and arousing :whistle:
I suspect the very reason we're even getting the Shani/Mandi path from the dev, in the first place, is Mandi ain't ever gonna be available to MC, because she'd possibly rather die fighting than go there, and that hot piece o' azz can't be left dangling in front of us without SOME kind of action.
 
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