Ren'Py Desert Stalker [v0.19.4] [Zetan]

[Nikko_]

... I agree that some of you have really fantasized too much the dynamics between Zaton, Mandisa and Shani.
- For starters, why the fuck would Zaton fight Mandisa? to fuck her? to maker a slave? wtf? the MC hasn't even shown to be very interested in Mandisa.
- Also, why is the slave thing being thrown for Mandisa and Shani? Are you confusing them with AIN? Cause AIN does have some fetish/fantasy/whatever about being a slave. But Shani just seems to like being a sub while having sex/ flirting, etc. Very different cases. And Mandisa shouldn't even need to be explained.
And is not that I want to bash on anybody's take. But personally, I appreciate Zetan's writing so far. And asking for the same treatment for every girl would just turn this into another generic VN.

 

[UncleVT]

Which one was Mandi?

The crush of several here.

 

[Ummmh]

If I remember correctly her first appearance was in the event of Zaton and Zahra date.

First appearance was in market at her wares table, speaking with Shani and agreeing to lend her a shortsword when Ain nearly got her dumb azz enslaved.

IIRC..

Second appearance was advising Shani on letting men think they have her when she gets caught, in order to cause them to drop their guard;

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Third appearance was the MC/Zahra date.

Fourth was the crossbow lessons, with the slave discussion and offer of a date w/Mandi.

Just FYI.

 

[Jennider100]

I hope developer will not waste his time to implement madisa. She s not that pretty and not worth it.

 

[Ass Fan]

Man, it would be great if there was an option to make a statue of Shani so that people would worship her as a goddess.
AIN would be a very obedient servant to her...

 

[PureoSpice]

Man, it would be great if there was an option to make a statue of Shani so that people would worship her as a goddess.
AIN would be a very obedient servant to her...

Say less cuz!

Now we just have to find what pose she woulda of hit for the reference

 

[Ass Fan]

Say less cuz!
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Now we just have to find what pose she woulda of hit for the reference
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She has many, and as a pervert, I would choose image 4.
However, number 3 would be better. The cute parts are just for fans.

 

[Leinad_Sevla]

I get the distinct impression Shani would be a temporary or at most occasional side hustle for Mandi, as the latter already has what appears to be a solid relationship w/her toyboy husband, and is clearly already a busy woman with a lot to keep her occupied.

She also clearly respects Shani as a stalker, so likely isn't expecting to dom, tho the CYOA path might be there, if the dev decides to put it in.

I´m not talking about a path to submission for Shani or Mandisa, I´m just talking about doing that for a lewd scene, that´s it. People can play roles during sex and that´s the angle I´m talking about, nothing more.

And, again, the queen secretly WANTED TO LOSE and get fucked hard by the MC. She wanted it BADLY. Mandi, OtOH, seemingly really, REALLY doesn't want that, at all, and gives the strong impression of a woman who wouldn't accept slavery (or even just sub) upon herself.

Mandisa is the type to make you squirm and crawl for her and then maybe she´ll give you a crumb, if she feels like it. MC isn´t going to go to all that trouble for it, he´s more the type of "you want it or not?". It could be a cool dynamic to explore, if the Dev wanted to go about it, but I don´t think he will and he probably should just stick to the existent stories. Mandisa can pop up for a few lewd scenes, but that´s it.

Mandi’s husband is the buff cuck guy right because if so the dev could give the Mc and Mandi that always fighting type relationship cause she did say nothing ever was gonna happen between them and husband was jealous of the Mc i could see her probably coming to the Mc cause he the only man she that can satisfy her

Mandisa´s husband seemed a bit disappointed that Mandisa didn´t want to join and possibly share with Zahra and Zaton during Zahra´s date scene. Mandisa shut it down quick, but he was probably looking at an opportunity to get his hands on Zahra and/or watch Zaton bang his wife.

I've thought about this before, but I think it would be unfair to dominate only Shani without giving her "superiority" over Mandisa. Okay, everything is clear with Zaton: Shani loves and trusts him, and is ready to do anything for him, but Mandisa, imo, does not deserve such treatment. Yes, she trained Shani for Zaton's money and did an excellent job of teaching her combat skills, but that's not enough.

In my opinion, if we're going to do something like this, the girls should dominate each other in turn, as we saw in the scene with MC, Shani, and the Queen. As for Zaton, ofc, he can also participate in this, being who he is (the undisputed Alpha), but to make Shani a "submissive slave" to two lions with a lot of life experience behind them is, in my opinion, not very fair. I believe that both Mandisa and Shani should be on equal footing in this scene, and they can easily try out submissive roles.

Shani´s attraction to Mandisa seems to be heavily more physical than sentimental, although she definitely likes her. That said, I don´t see Mandisa playing a sub role, even if MC is in the picture. She doesn´t do that for anyone, so I don´t see her doing it with Shani.
I much faster see Shani playing a sub role to please Zaton than I see Mandisa letting anyone tell her to be submissive.

 

[dexterousgecko]

So..why are we all talking as if Mandisa is a main character or something?

 

[Stan5851]

Shani´s attraction to Mandisa seems to be heavily more physical than sentimental, although she definitely likes her. That said, I don´t see Mandisa playing a sub role, even if MC is in the picture. She doesn´t do that for anyone, so I don´t see her doing it with Shani.
I much faster see Shani playing a sub role to please Zaton than I see Mandisa letting anyone tell her to be submissive.

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[Ummmh]

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Mandi does not come across as ostentatious, AT ALL. She very clearly has ZERO pretenses, and is ALL business. She has very much the seeming of an extremely experienced warrior who has no time for anyone's sh1t, and is just situational awareness focused: wanting the facts so that she can keep herself alive and successful.
She seems very much to be exactly as she appears, not a pretender.

In fact, she even comes across as possibly PSYCHOPATHIC: low emotion (tho they oft can feign cordiality and be charming, they have very muted emotions), HIGHLY controlled, manipulative, materialist/pragmatic, self-survival focused, and NATURALLY DOMINATIVE, REGARDLESS OF GENDER.

Regardless of whether or not she's a psychopath however, the physical reality is some women are rigged to run as men, neurologically, and Mandi looks very much along that line.

More, there is a very real differentiation between gender IDENTITY and gender PREFERENCE. Someone can be physically one gender but feel the other, while still 100% preferring heterosexual relations, or they can be very comfortable in the gender role their body provided, but be neurologically predisposed towards homosexual relations. It happens all the time.

With Mandi, I don't see even a hint of repressed femininity. Tho she understands how to dress and use makeup (and note tgat she is still sharp, severe, and controlled, even when dressed sexily), she otherwise looks neurologically very much a man in a woman's body, role-wise, tho her partner preference is mixed, with the caveat that she is dom to her husband, and her interest in Shani is to a younger woman who is occasionally her student (power dynamic already extant), and who does not exhibit heavy confidence around her: all traits suggesting Mandi would also prefer the superior position in any relations w/Shani.

Mandi's sub hubby is likely a RESULT of her apparently naturally dominant temperment, not a cause.

I get that many have opinions/preferences as to how they WANT other people to be in their own lives, and may refuse to believe in the existence of any mode of being other than their own (a behavioral pattern psychologically referred to as "egoism" which one is supposed to shed around age 7), but the REALITY is that those other people may very well just be NATURALLY PHYSICALLY WIRED (neurologically predisposed), to completely different sexual perspectives and preferences. It's very often flat-out genetics, and WELL DOCUMENTED. The facts don't care about one's feelings.

BTW, not meaning to be harsh. This just is what it is. Mandi is obviously a fictional character, but the underlying point of your opinion in this matter is just as fictional, as it is not consistent with physical reality.

EDIT: had to edit the bejeezus out of this, because for some reason it went all italic and I had to back out of it and repost

 

[Suminohana]

Has AI been used in the latest cutscene (before they depart with the queen)? Kinda looked like it.

 

[Nikko_]

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Dude, not everybody fits a mold!! Part of me gets where you are coming from. Cause the excessive cuddling and political correctness of the 21st century has multiplicated the people that naturally would not fit the mold. But that's the thing, while they have increased, a few outliers still occur naturally. People are not a perfect math equation. Your take can be more valid against society (IRL and the one in game). But for everything already covered by Ummmh, not against a particular individual or a couple.

 

[maxthruster]

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Lmao.