Ren'Py Desert Stalker [v0.19.4] [Zetan]

[mrttao]

My Fav Top 3 Games so far:

1) Desert Stalker
2) 4 years in Tehran
3) Vis

Hmm. now I gotta check out those other 2 games. If they are close to being as good as desert stalker then I am in for a treat

 

[hagare]

Is there any plan to put this game on steam?

 

[Paz]

Is there any plan to put this game on steam?

On a theoretical level yes, but it's quite far still. Probably when it is (close to) done.

 

[hagare]

On a theoretical level yes, but it's quite far still. Probably when it is (close to) done.

then I will wait with glee

 

[vs2011xyz]

Hmm. now I gotta check out those other 2 games. If they are close to being as good as desert stalker then I am in for a treat

4 Tears in Tehran Is not like DesertStalker, it is a different game,,, I like girl and story so I choose it my fav. BUT YOU CAN try "VIS" It is a really good game...

 

[mrttao]

4 Tears in Tehran Is not like DesertStalker, it is a different game,,, I like girl and story so I choose it my fav. BUT YOU CAN try "VIS" It is a really good game...

thank you. yea I noticed the 4 years one is a female protagonist game. passing on that one.

Weird how 90% of male protagonist game are:
"fuck a harem of top quality waifus. plus your mom and sister"
while 90% of female protagonist games are:
"try to be a heroine, but instead get raped a lot. mostly by animals, monsters, or wretched creatures such as goblins"

 

[vs2011xyz]

thank you. yea I noticed the 4 years one is a female protagonist game. passing on that one.

Weird how 90% of male protagonist game are:
"fuck a harem of top quality waifus. plus your mom and sister"
while 90% of female protagonist games are:
"try to be a heroine, but instead get raped a lot. mostly by animals, monsters, or wretched creatures such as goblins"

I am a male so I want to try Female games, how a female Dev thinks to create their own way games,

 

[Machete]

can Mc share his wife to his brother in law or igor ?

Not so far. I'm not sure if ever. Zhara (did i get the name right?) is a very proud and aristocratic woman. See in the interactions with Igor niece (i suck with names). She put it clear that whatever role the girl can have with her husband she is THE wife and the lady of the house.

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

Not so far. I'm not sure if ever. Zhara (did i get the name right?) is a very proud and aristocratic woman. See in the interactions with Igor niece (i suck with names). She put it clear that whatever role the girl can have with her husband she is THE wife and the lady of the house.

oh it could definitely be a possibility.

 

[Machete]

Sure. I wasn't speaking of jealousy or social acceptance or will do to what MC desires. I meant that, as i see her, she'd rather not. She clearly sees her husband as a top tier man and she wouldn't be interest in a man that is less then him in any mean shaper or form.
Also, sharing his wife among all the women in the household would feel like a giving up of power by MC, it would kinda feel out of character.
Desert Stalker is no place for cuckholding. There's plenty of NTR if one has the hitch

 

[Ifartedtoolong]

I'm looking forward to some hot scenes with the wife and Kateryna and I have no problems if she wants to have some fun with some of the other girls in the game including her daughters or niece.

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

Sure. I wasn't speaking of jealousy or social acceptance or will do to what MC desires. I meant that, as i see her, she'd rather not. She clearly sees her husband as a top tier man and she wouldn't be interest in a man that is less then him in any mean shaper or form.
Also, sharing his wife among all the women in the household would feel like a giving up of power by MC, it would kinda feel out of character.
Desert Stalker is no place for cuckholding. There's plenty of NTR if one has the hitch

The main point is the last paragraph in that screenshot. Zahra may be in the future and may have been shared in the past, (player choice, of course). Given how previous sharing scenes have gone and the setup, it would not be a cuckold situation, rather, if MC wills it to be done. It seems the visit to the family's home could possibly head in that direction with the brother-in-law, for example.

 

[Canto Forte]

MC is constantly looking to enhance the babes in his reach and talked to his outstanding wife
about the terrible state her sister is in that guy”s home, so no, getting her into same state as her sis
is certainly off the table .. it should be something excluded by the very essence of their talks.

 

[Aioto]

Sure. I wasn't speaking of jealousy or social acceptance or will do to what MC desires. I meant that, as i see her, she'd rather not. She clearly sees her husband as a top tier man and she wouldn't be interest in a man that is less then him in any mean shaper or form.
Also, sharing his wife among all the women in the household would feel like a giving up of power by MC, it would kinda feel out of character.
Desert Stalker is no place for cuckholding. There's plenty of NTR if one has the hitch

Well, she doesn't have to be interested in the man nor does she have to think of him as better than the MC, that will absolutely never happen. Much like the sharing of Ain or Emilia with Igor, the MC deems it necessary to happen so he tells her to do it and she does it.(player choice dependent of course)

 

[Hildegardt]

oh it could definitely be a possibility.
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Hmm... I don't want to call anyone out, but even though these claims about the game are close to the source, they are far removed from what we actually get to play. All this talk about "no jealousy" and "social lubrication" isn't reflected in the game at all. Pretty much the entire game consists of playing as a bald buff dude, who dominates everything in his path. There's no casual sex in the game so far and even the two sharing scenes are about domination aswell.
This can't even be explained away by the fact that the Stalker is the baldest buffest dude, who can take everything he wants by force. Because even when we got to visit another household in the latest update, they didn't afford the Stalker the same courtesy we could afford Igor on his visit. Instead Zahra's sister expressed concern that her husband could get jealous.
So even if canonically there's hot sweaty casual sex and sharing going on everwhere else in Zeta, it seems like the player character's perpective on this is skewed, because we didn't get to see it, yet.

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

Hmm... I don't want to call anyone out, but even though these claims about the game are close to the source, they are far removed from what we actually get to play. All this talk about "no jealousy" and "social lubrication" isn't reflected in the game at all. Pretty much the entire game consists of playing as a bald buff dude, who dominates everything in his path. There's no casual sex in the game so far and even the two sharing scenes are about domination aswell.
This can't even be explained away by the fact that the Stalker is the baldest buffest dude, who can take everything he wants by force. Because even when we got to visit another household in the latest update, they didn't afford the Stalker the same courtesy we could afford Igor on his visit. Instead Zahra's sister expressed concern that her husband could get jealous.
So even if canonically there's hot sweaty casual sex and sharing going on everwhere else in Zeta, it seems like the player character's perpective on this is skewed, because we didn't get to see it, yet.

So the thing about the sister and brother-in-law is that they (or at least he) come from another land that is not as sexually liberal as Zeta. As that household scenario develops, it's possible we will see MC just take what he wants, or show the brother-in-law by offering Zahra, which could get him used to the idea and eventually be more liberal with his wife. Obviously, these are just my thoughts based on observations, but that to me seems to be the two directions this could go.

 

[JoeTheMC84]

Well, she doesn't have to be interested in the man nor does she have to think of him as better than the MC, that will absolutely never happen. Much like the sharing of Ain or Emilia with Igor, the MC deems it necessary to happen so he tells her to do it and she does it.(player choice dependent of course)

This actually gets to the reason I think sharing Zahra doesn't make sense. She, by the character of her we have seen, wouldn't be into being with another man by choice, ever. Meaning that, as you say, the MC would be basically making her do it, no different than Ain or Emilia. That would imply that he doesn't see her any differently than he does those two. However, we know the MC does see her differently. It is one thing to share a slave, or even a daughter with a good friend, it is another to share your wife against her will.

Now, I hold to the principal of the "death of the author," meaning that it doesn't matter what the author says outside the work, it matters what we see. Hildegardt, made a good point in relations to this. The developer's words, and even some of the off-hand comments in the library which largely depend on how they are read, seem at odds with what we see. In the game we see a culture where "might makes right" is the highest ethic. Sexual liberation and other things don't really factor in, and in fact, clash with that ethic. It is similar to trying to be a pacifist, you are allowed to be a pacifist because other good men are not and protect you from the violence of evil men.

I cannot fathom a single case were sharing Zahra makes sense give the dynamic we see in game, when the MC has access to a daughter and a slave that could be used in such a commodity fashion. Letting the brother-in-law sleep with Zahra makes almost no sense at all, that character, as far as I can see exists to be cucked. Even if a stronger character than the brother-in-law were to arrive and letting them have a sexual action with Zahra was "expected," the ethic of might making right would still overrule that and the MC would be right in denying that expectation and would be, I would think, held in higher standing for doing so.

If might makes right then sexual liberation does not exist, sex is at the whim of the strongest man at the time. A strong man keeping his women for himself should be just as, if not more, highly regarded as a man who uses his women to get ahead because he is not strong himself and trades them to get strong men to aid him.

Also, jealousy is not a cultural quality, it is a human one. Just like greed, gluttony, lust, and any other vice. The idea that Zeta has "moved beyond" jealousy in regard to sex is to ignore human nature. One could say that there is a sense to the MC being willing to share a slave, she could be seen as a commodity to some players, but letting another man have sex with a wife is different by its very nature. That is, if she was less than willing, and her being willing is dangerously close to her cucking her husband since it tacitly admits that he does not satisfy her sufficiently. It devalues her as a person and a partner, seeing her as no different than the slave girl, those are things we have seen the MC does not think. He values her as his wife and partner.

The brother-in-law is a weak man, and so his jealousy is irrelevant in Zeta culture perhaps, and it would be so for any other weaker man. A strong man's jealousy would trump the culture even if the culture was not one were jealousy was common. That aside, however, you still stand on the rocky foundation of a single strong man being able to upend the system.

From a real-world anthropological stance as well, even in cultures that were more sexual open, sexual restraint was still seen as an ethic. In Greek culture Athena, Artemis, and Hestia were virgins and it was the ultimate embodiment of female power. No man could take their virginity and they would only give it to a worthy man, and there wasn't one. "Sexual liberation" has devalued women. Men acted like cads, and powerful, worthwhile women called them to higher standards and men would rise to them. Until recent history and anyone with eyes should be able to see where that has led the state of affairs between the sexes.

All that to say this: the Zeta we see is not a culture of sexual freedom, sexual fluidity, lack of jealousy, or sexual commodity. It is one where "might makes right" and the strongest dictate the terms of all sexual encounters. Might making right is the only actual ethic we have seen continually referenced and play out in game. The queen is stronger than the prisoners and forces them to be whipped, burned, and used in the street. The guard in the alleyway is stronger than the slave girl and forces her to please him. The MC Stalker is stronger than the man in the street and prevents him from beating his slave. The MC is stronger than the brother-in-law and can take his women for himself. The MC making the raider girl give the other raider a blowjob was not because of sexual liberty but as way of devaluing her. The MC letting his daughter or slave give Igor a blowjob was not out of sexual liberty but out friendship and not valuing the women as anything more than he might a "glass of the good wine."

The best display of this ethic in two forms comes from the interaction between the MC and the queen. As the player we can acquiesce to her political strength or assert our physical strength. These two forms of might clashing is, I think, the best encapsulation of Zetan culture we see in the game.

I hope you have enjoyed another JoeTheMC essay...

 

[punisher2099]

All that matters is what the dev wants and if they ask their patrons and a majority of them want it.

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

This actually gets to the reason I think sharing Zahra doesn't make sense. She, by the character of her we have seen, wouldn't be into being with another man by choice, ever. Meaning that, as you say, the MC would be basically making her do it, no different than Ain or Emilia. That would imply that he doesn't see her any differently than he does those two. However, we know the MC does see her differently. It is one thing to share a slave, or even a daughter with a good friend, it is another to share your wife against her will.

Now, I hold to the principal of the "death of the author," meaning that it doesn't matter what the author says outside the work, it matters what we see. Hildegardt, made a good point in relations to this. The developer's words, and even some of the off-hand comments in the library which largely depend on how they are read, seem at odds with what we see. In the game we see a culture where "might makes right" is the highest ethic. Sexual liberation and other things don't really factor in, and in fact, clash with that ethic. It is similar to trying to be a pacifist, you are allowed to be a pacifist because other good men are not and protect you from the violence of evil men.

I cannot fathom a single case were sharing Zahra makes sense give the dynamic we see in game, when the MC has access to a daughter and a slave that could be used in such a commodity fashion. Letting the brother-in-law sleep with Zahra makes almost no sense at all, that character, as far as I can see exists to be cucked. Even if a stronger character than the brother-in-law were to arrive and letting them have a sexual action with Zahra was "expected," the ethic of might making right would still overrule that and the MC would be right in denying that expectation and would be, I would think, held in higher standing for doing so.

If might makes right then sexual liberation does not exist, sex is at the whim of the strongest man at the time. A strong man keeping his women for himself should be just as, if not more, highly regarded as a man who uses his women to get ahead because he is not strong himself and trades them to get strong men to aid him.

Also, jealousy is not a cultural quality, it is a human one. Just like greed, gluttony, lust, and any other vice. The idea that Zeta has "moved beyond" jealousy in regard to sex is to ignore human nature. One could say that there is a sense to the MC being willing to share a slave, she could be seen as a commodity to some players, but letting another man have sex with a wife is different by its very nature. That is, if she was less than willing, and her being willing is dangerously close to her cucking her husband since it tacitly admits that he does not satisfy her sufficiently. It devalues her as a person and a partner, seeing her as no different than the slave girl, those are things we have seen the MC does not think. He values her as his wife and partner.

The brother-in-law is a weak man, and so his jealousy is irrelevant in Zeta culture perhaps, and it would be so for any other weaker man. A strong man's jealousy would trump the culture even if the culture was not one were jealousy was common. That aside, however, you still stand on the rocky foundation of a single strong man being able to upend the system.

From a real-world anthropological stance as well, even in cultures that were more sexual open, sexual restraint was still seen as an ethic. In Greek culture Athena, Artemis, and Hestia were virgins and it was the ultimate embodiment of female power. No man could take their virginity and they would only give it to a worthy man, and there wasn't one. "Sexual liberation" has devalued women. Men acted like cads, and powerful, worthwhile women called them to higher standards and men would rise to them. Until recent history and anyone with eyes should be able to see where that has led the state of affairs between the sexes.

All that to say this: the Zeta we see is not a culture of sexual freedom, sexual fluidity, lack of jealousy, or sexual commodity. It is one where "might makes right" and the strongest dictate the terms of all sexual encounters. Might making right is the only actual ethic we have seen continually referenced and play out in game. The queen is stronger than the prisoners and forces them to be whipped, burned, and used in the street. The guard in the alleyway is stronger than the slave girl and forces her to please him. The MC Stalker is stronger than the man in the street and prevents him from beating his slave. The MC is stronger than the brother-in-law and can take his women for himself. The MC making the raider girl give the other raider a blowjob was not because of sexual liberty but as way of devaluing her. The MC letting his daughter or slave give Igor a blowjob was not out of sexual liberty but out friendship and not valuing the women as anything more than he might a "glass of the good wine."

The best display of this ethic in two forms comes from the interaction between the MC and the queen. As the player we can acquiesce to her political strength or assert our physical strength. These two forms of might clashing is, I think, the best encapsulation of Zetan culture we see in the game.

I hope you have enjoyed another JoeTheMC essay...

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[JoeTheMC84]

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