VN Ren'Py Despair [v0.1.1] [keixii]

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Some feedback after a quick glance through this initial release:
Render quality is quite good. Not 100% my personal choice of style, but I can dig the overall composition and hey, ain't my game. Having a style at all can only be a good thing in my book. Character design is pretty good. The designs are largely more realistic, as in not too crazy hair colors and such, but the characters still look quite good. Liked that. The whole thing seems very grounded overall.
Choice of music was really fitting. Despite the short nature of the release I already felt I could tell the emotional direction this might take going by that.
Storywise I really can't be so sure. Sure we got the name to go by, but that can manifest in many ways. Going by the synopsis this might go into family intrigue maybe crime? Certainly some drama with how the release ended. Some clarification in that regard would be nice. Not sure if this short intro will get people to come back if they can't be sure what they're getting into.
I can get behind the character constellation though, it's not through-the-roof level crazy. Very grounded as I already said.

Not sure the "Loading" notification is really necessary or an enrichment to transitions.

Early on, there are some renders were Kylie's name is unreadable on lower brightness settings, really had to pump it up. Text was not too bad but there were some barely readable things, but someone already said that I think.
For the texting with Kylie, white on yellow is a rather bold choice, black on yellow or darker background would make that text easier to read as well.
Also, would be nice to have a fullscreen version or something like that for the images we get on the phone (if more happen to be send) for.... research purposes :sneaky: Probably good to have a gallery, too. I know there isn't much in the lewd department yet, but plan ahead. You will likely hear questions about galleries sooner or later when the scenes start rolling in.

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Overall it was quite good and there were only some minor things I could criticize. Mostly in the proofreading department.
Seems to be going the drama route if I'm not completely misreading everything. Normally not my cup of tea and this genre certainly requires good writing to go off. But I'll keep an eye on this for sure to see how the next updates look like. For now it's too early to tell what the story will be really about and what the dev has in store for us.

Good luck with your game, keixiii and thank you for the release
Cheers =)
 
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keixiii

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Some feedback after a quick glance through this initial release:
Render quality is quite good. Not 100% my personal choice of style, but I can dig the overall composition and hey, ain't my game. Having a style at all can only be a good thing in my book. Character design is pretty good. The designs are largely more realistic, as in not too crazy hair colors and such, but the characters still look quite good. Liked that. The whole thing seems very grounded overall.
Choice of music was really fitting. Despite the short nature of the release I already felt I could tell the emotional direction this might take going by that.
Storywise I really can't be so sure. Sure we got the name to go by, but that can manifest in many ways. Going by the synopsis this might go into family intrigue maybe crime? Certainly some drama with how the release ended. Some clarification in that regard would be nice. Not sure if this short intro will get people to come back if they can't be sure what they're getting into.
I can get behind the character constellation though, it's not through-the-roof level crazy. Very grounded as I already said.

Not sure the "Loading" notification is really necessary or an enrichment to transitions.

Early on, there are some renders were Kaylie's name is unreadable on lower brightness settings, really had to pump it up. Text was not too bad but there were some barely readable things, but someone already said that I think.
For the texting with Kylie, white on yellow is a rather bold choice, black on yellow or darker background would make that text easier to read as well.
Also, would be nice to have a fullscreen version or something like that for the images we get on the phone (if more happen to be send) for.... research purposes :sneaky: Probably good to have a gallery, too. I know there isn't much in the lewd department yet, but plan ahead. You will likely hear questions about galleries sooner or later when the scenes start rolling in.

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Overall it was quite good and there were only some minor things I could criticize. Mostly in the proofreading department.
Seems to be going the drama route if I'm not completely misreading everything. Normally not my cup of tea and this genre certainly requires good writing to go off. But I'll keep an eye on this for sure to see how the next updates look like. For now it's too early to tell what the story will be really about and what the dev has in store for us.

Good luck with your game, keixiii and thank you for the release
Cheers =)
Thank you so much for your very insightful feedback! I truly appreciate the time you took to share your thoughts. I’ll do my best to improve many aspects of the project in the coming updates, especially on the writing side, and ensure that bugs are addressed properly. Your support and input mean a lot!
 
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JoeTheMC84

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Possible, depends on the response of the community through polls through out the development process

Eh, as much I personally would like to see harem, you shouldn't rely on polls for fetishes. Everyone will want something different, you can't please everyone.
Yeah, agreed. Just want to add my voice to this idea. Both in that harems are good, but using polls to decide fetishes usually isn't a great idea as it can lead to incongruent and inconsistent stories. Depending on what you even let people even vote on since you might have some things ruled out already. And I've seen people raid polls, a bunch of people come in and pay a dollar just to vote in a month's polls and skew the numbers just to drive the game into the dirt or screw over the dev and current fans.
 

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Looks great from the screenshots, I like HS2 games with mods instead of the out of box defaults. The darker tone gels well with a title "Despair" (though admittedly I haven't played and don't know the story).

Off to a good start I presume...
 
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keixiii

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Despair 0.1.1 Bugfix Release

1. First of all I want to express my deepest gratitude to everyone who played the first version of Despair and shared their feedback. Your keen eyes, detailed reports, and dedication have been invaluable in helping me identify and fix potential bugs within the game.

2. The issue with text being hard to read in certain scenes has been addressed! I’ve added borders to the text to improve visibility.

3. The issue with player-inputted name, not correctly appearing on some scenes has also been resolved.

4. File Size Optimization, I've made significant improvements to the game’s file size, reducing it dramatically from (1.216gb to 292.2mb) while maintaining the quality and performance.

For the next update {0.2}:

1. The request for images sent through the phone in-game will be addressed: they will be clickable and viewable in full-screen in the next major update.

2. Since English is not my native/first language, I'll try to hire a proof-reader for the next update

Any bugs that still occurs with 0.1.1 will be addressed in the next major update {0.2}

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR PLAYING THE FIRST VERSION/INTRODUCTION OF DESPAIR, HAVE A GREAT NIGHT!
 

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This was supposed to be a review for 4 stars and most likely coming back after a couple updates to change it to 5 since the dev seems to respond to feedback, but I realized it's more so my dumb opinions and criticism, so I'll leave it as a comment for now.

I could go into details about LI (which so far are good) and blabber about things that could very well be changed really easily and soon, so I'm not gonna do that, so I'd rather just give my opinion and some constructive criticism.
In my opinion, the upside down renders ain't a bad thing, but not good either, maybe trying to give them a bit of purpose and not just randomly, or at least doing them more rarely.
The upbeat music in the breakfast scene could be a bit more chill (the rest are fine) and not so, idk how to describe it other that upbeat, going from the classic music (which is really good) from the prologue to the breakfast scene music which is loud and a bit too fast doesn't seem too appropriate to me, even though I understand that the scenes are complete opposites in a way, it's just too much for a calm VN scene in my opinion
T̶h̶e̶r̶e̶'s̶ p̶r̶o̶b̶l̶e̶m̶s̶ w̶i̶t̶h̶ t̶h̶e̶ d̶i̶a̶l̶o̶g̶u̶e̶ w̶h̶e̶r̶e̶ c̶h̶a̶r̶a̶c̶t̶e̶r̶s̶ (̶e̶s̶p̶e̶c̶i̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ R̶e̶n̶)̶ c̶a̶l̶l̶s̶ y̶o̶u̶ b̶y̶ w̶h̶a̶t̶ I̶'m̶ g̶u̶e̶s̶s̶i̶n̶g̶ s̶h̶o̶u̶l̶d̶'v̶e̶ b̶e̶e̶n̶ t̶h̶e̶ d̶e̶f̶a̶u̶l̶t̶ n̶a̶m̶e̶ already been said or corrected along with the barely visible text at times, and the dialogue is a bit repetitive at times, again with Ren and going out, no need to ask him about 4-5 times, but that might just be me because I hate repetitive dialogue in general and I don't think you need a proof-reader, as a non-native english speaker (as you can see from this comment lol), everything seems fine, maybe just pay a little more attention to the text, but a proof reader would seem too much and a waste of money, unless someone just wants to do it for you for free.
It's getting too long so imma speedrun some: only 2 classmates (for now) seems a bit too weird, Kylie seems a bit too caring for how she's described (kinda goes for the MC as well), realistically speaking, you can't dream about someone or something you don't already know but maybe I either didn't comprehended the story or it will be explained, a small introduction like ''This is Kylie, the daughter of my mom's good friend(or sister??? I'm still not sure) and my current bestfriend'' could be good since it's a bit confusing in the beginning until the Mc story is explained, is it just me or Kylie face seems a bit off but can't really explain why, not sure about this one but the ''(laughing)'' or ''(sarcastic)'' is probably unnecessary, since a little ''haha'', seeing the character visibly laughing and obvious sarcasm already does the job.
These are just some small things that I'd change or alter, but don't take me too seriously because it's just my opinion and you did great in pretty much everything else, the game has potential and I can't wait for more, good luck bro.
 

keixiii

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This was supposed to be a review for 4 stars and most likely coming back after a couple updates to change it to 5 since the dev seems to respond to feedback, but I realized it's more so my dumb opinions and criticism, so I'll leave it as a comment for now.

I could go into details about LI (which so far are good) and blabber about things that could very well be changed really easily and soon, so I'm not gonna do that, so I'd rather just give my opinion and some constructive criticism.
In my opinion, the upside down renders ain't a bad thing, but not good either, maybe trying to give them a bit of purpose and not just randomly, or at least doing them more rarely.
The upbeat music in the breakfast scene could be a bit more chill (the rest are fine) and not so, idk how to describe it other that upbeat, going from the classic music (which is really good) from the prologue to the breakfast scene music which is loud and a bit too fast doesn't seem too appropriate to me, even though I understand that the scenes are complete opposites in a way, it's just too much for a calm VN scene in my opinion
T̶h̶e̶r̶e̶'s̶ p̶r̶o̶b̶l̶e̶m̶s̶ w̶i̶t̶h̶ t̶h̶e̶ d̶i̶a̶l̶o̶g̶u̶e̶ w̶h̶e̶r̶e̶ c̶h̶a̶r̶a̶c̶t̶e̶r̶s̶ (̶e̶s̶p̶e̶c̶i̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ R̶e̶n̶)̶ c̶a̶l̶l̶s̶ y̶o̶u̶ b̶y̶ w̶h̶a̶t̶ I̶'m̶ g̶u̶e̶s̶s̶i̶n̶g̶ s̶h̶o̶u̶l̶d̶'v̶e̶ b̶e̶e̶n̶ t̶h̶e̶ d̶e̶f̶a̶u̶l̶t̶ n̶a̶m̶e̶ already been said or corrected along with the barely visible text at times, and the dialogue is a bit repetitive at times, again with Ren and going out, no need to ask him about 4-5 times, but that might just be me because I hate repetitive dialogue in general and I don't think you need a proof-reader, as a non-native english speaker (as you can see from this comment lol), everything seems fine, maybe just pay a little more attention to the text, but a proof reader would seem too much and a waste of money, unless someone just wants to do it for you for free.
It's getting too long so imma speedrun some: only 2 classmates (for now) seems a bit too weird, Kylie seems a bit too caring for how she's described (kinda goes for the MC as well), realistically speaking, you can't dream about someone or something you don't already know but maybe I either didn't comprehended the story or it will be explained, a small introduction like ''This is Kylie, the daughter of my mom's good friend(or sister??? I'm still not sure) and my current bestfriend'' could be good since it's a bit confusing in the beginning until the Mc story is explained, is it just me or Kylie face seems a bit off but can't really explain why, not sure about this one but the ''(laughing)'' or ''(sarcastic)'' is probably unnecessary, since a little ''haha'', seeing the character visibly laughing and obvious sarcasm already does the job.
These are just some small things that I'd change or alter, but don't take me too seriously because it's just my opinion and you did great in pretty much everything else, the game has potential and I can't wait for more, good luck bro.
Thank you very much for trying Despair, I really appreciate the comments/feedbacks you’ve raised some excellent points, and I’ll be keeping these in mind for future updates. I don’t want to spoil anything, but I promise there’s a reason for how the nightmare plays out—it’ll make more sense as the story unfolds, Have a good day!!
 
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keixiii

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Sometimes when they have you pick your own name, you can just tell when the old name is still in script. ;)

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Ohh thank you for this!! It will be fixed on the next update. Have a Good Day!

UPDATE:
Are you using the latest version? I just checked the game and script, and it seems this bug has already been fixed with 0.1.1. If you are using a mod it is probably the culprit it still use the script of 0.1

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Ohh thank you for this!! It will be fixed on the next update. Have a Good Day!

UPDATE:
Are you using the latest version? I just checked the game and script, and it seems this bug has already been fixed with 0.1.1. If you are using a mod it is probably the culprit it still use the script of 0.1

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The 0.1.1 didn't show up on the latest updates page, so didn't even know it was updated until just now. But glad it is fixed, even if it is just give me a bit of a laugh when I saw that.
 
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Havik79

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Yeah not a bad start, bit too short, but seems interesting.
Is it going to be harem.