HTML [Dev Log] Grizzly Grove [Gay][v 0.18e]

[Rafster]

Greetings everybody,

It seems to be the day to finally present my game to this great site. It is a Gay focused real porn sandbox, so yeah, only M/M action (no F/M or F/F, sorry). It's my very first project, so it's just an amateur game. I started it on November 2020 so while I was learning HTML, Twine and Javascript the game was taking shape.

My main influences are real porn sandboxes, like Young Marcus by SerialAries (I recommend Randiel's remake), Hornstown and Shameless Impurity by BigBoofGames. I've spent hours and hours playing these, so I thought I could take a shot on the genre. It's ambitious for a first game, but I want to see how far I can get. First, the synopsis:

Synopsis

You take the role of a 27 years old young man, named as Ryan McBright (name can be customized), who returns to his hometown, Grizzly Grove, a big Coastal city, after a 10 years abscense. 10 years ago you left your family's house to live with your uncle after a very strong argument with your mother. You lived with him the last 10 years, finishing high school and then working for his business. And you could have your life apart from this city forever....

But you are not the type of guy that runs away. Eventually, you make the decision to come back, and with the help of your uncle, you rent an apartment on Grizzly and try to make your life here. Will you succeed? or will you return to your uncle's house with your tail between your legs? it's all up to you.

Game description

The game is a Sandbox, heavily text based, but I also use some pictures and videos. You'll choose your own path on the Grizzly Grove city. The main idea is to navigate and enter one of many storylines available, as well as explore the various locations through the city, meeting various characters, and have hot sex in the process. I will focus on my kinks, wich are hairy, daddy looking guys (now you see why the grizzly on the game's name?). There could be twinks here too if I like them.

The first storyline is centered around the first job presented, JCS male cleaner. JCS, or Jockstrap Cleaning Services, is a company founded by your landlord, Dalton. It's the equivalent of the female maid companies, but instead of using a boring butler uniform, the cleaners just wear jockstraps. You'll enter at the most basic level, as a lowly assistant and you will work your way to the top, with a chance to romance Dalton himself. Only the first level of this job is available on this build.

Update: As of 0.18, the level 2 of this job is complete. The final level will come at the next update

As the version 0.17, another storyline was added. It's the Gym Storyline, where you'll compete in the underground fighting competition called "Bear Fist Tournament" for a big prize of 1000$. Along the way, you have the chance to romance your coach, Garrett Kennedy. After you win the tournament, you'll have access to the mini interactive epilogue, "Road to the belt" that cover your life after you finally marry him.

More storylines will be added after the first storyline is finished. I have planned a lot more in advance. For example, the Bear's Den salesman storyline, where you will face your mother and take part on the family's business, or the Ursus hideout brothel, where you will work as a prostitute.

Tags

The non sex tags currently on the latest build of the game are:

HTML (game is developed under Twine/Sugarcube)
Text Based
Sandbox (the game's genre)
Real Porn (I will be using part of my gif and vid library)
Male protagonist (No female protagonist. As far as transformations goes, I'll add a Himbo storyline in a future)
Combat (added on version 0.17)

The current sex tags as of this version:

Gay (Obviously. and no, M/M sex is not avoidable)
DILF (there will be a lot of hot daddy type guys here)
Group sex (there are one or two scenes with an orgy/3somes)
Anal sex (top/bottom)
Oral sex (top/bottom)
Creampie (present in some encounters)
Handjob (one scene)
BDSM (as of this version, we can get: bondage, whipping, electro play, wax play, breath control)
Male domination (some scenes require to dominate someone, and others you will be the sub. There is a whole sequence focused on male domination/abuse)
Multiple penetration (a couple of scenes include it)
Sex Toys (there are some clips on the upgraded MC's PC. Two scenes may include it)
Urination (yes, there are some watersports scenes)
Fisting: (two scenes)
Interracial (3 or 4 scenes)
Masturbation (lots of it)
Sissification (One character will get sissified by the MC. The MC won't be sissified on the game. That's definitive)
Prostitution (there is one scene where someone will pay you money for sex. In the future, there will be a whole storyline around this. Also, technically, the job at JCS can be classified as prostitution, since you're paid extra for sex)

Planned kinks for future updates:
Chastity (there will be a whole storyline around it. but without sissification at all)
Sex in public
Uniforms

Future tags:
[futa/trans]: There will be a trans men love interest (yeah: men with a vagina) so the tag will come.
[vag sex]: Yeah, this tag is due the last tag.

One thing to note, is that almost every sex encounter can be avoided (there are 1 or 2 exceptions to the rule), and if one kink is not wanted (like watersports) you can opt out of it.

Current state of the game

The game, as this update, only have 3 locations available (4 if we count home). It's very barebones, and I don't want to release a 10 minute demo like many of the starter HTML games, so I'm taking my time to learn the tools, and have an interesting world to accompany the first storyline. Only when the first storyline is finished and the planned locations are added, the game will be launched here properly. The current project status is:

Locations: 4 (Home, Bear Claw Shopping mall, JCS HQ, Grizzly Cave Gym)
Phone UI almost done. You can check mails and sometimes receive calls. In the future it will be used to call other characters and check a pic/gif gallery.
Shop System almost finished. But the stores have almost empty inventories
Inventory system: Halfway done, but the clothing system needs to be implemented.
Job progression: almost done, JCS level 2 is complete as this update.
Walkthrough: There is a detailed walkthrough on the help section.
JCS storyline: 60% done. Level 2 complete.
Gym Storyline: complete
Battle system: complete

Planned locations:
A park where one can train, masturbate if there is no one around, or even prostitute for a low ammount of money.
A hospital, Here you can change Ryan's attitude by a not so small fee by a psychologist.
The ursus hideout brothel. If you want to find a prostitute, this is the place.
A shooting range, so you can raise your gun skill.

Spoiler: Changes on 0.18

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Demo

One note: users with resolutions lower than 1280x1024 (I developed the game on this resolution) may not be able to see the whole map, or smartphone. A workaround for this is to use the zoom in/out functions on your browsers/devices (on firefox/PC I used the ctrl+mouse wheel to zoom out. tested with 800x600). Scrollbars enabled again in case players have a lower resolution.

The game has been tested on firefox and chrome on PC. I also ran it on Joiplay for android

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Here is my latest demo, any feedback is welcome. Especially with my god awful engrish, as you can see through this whole post. I'm a programmer, not a writer or artist, so my writing is really awkward at best, and painful at worst.

How to contact me:

In case of any bug report, or feedback, you can use this thread, or, if you prefer discord, you can also find me here on the

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[Guy Media]

So far the character's personalities are compelling and the UI in this game is stunning. I love the world map. You can tell a lot of effort went into this. It's a great start to a game and I'm excited to see where it goes.

 

[Oliz82]

Hello.

For a demo with just 3 locations and 2 romance paths (though we can just raise the friendship for now), it's really well done.

Some stats are too easy to increase (you talk to the movers and your uncle and already gain 8 social points) while others are really hard (the top stats, since there are few scenes for them).
It's too easy to gain money for the use we have in game.
I feel like the energy drop too easily, though it's also easy to replenish it.
It's interesting to be able to choose what we want to see in the sex scenes.
You didn't do anything with health yet though I found it interesting to include some consequences when we take risks (it shouldn't be limited to sexual ones though).
We're supposed to pay the rent in Dalton's office but, in reality, he comes to MC appartment.
You've included a cleanliness system but it doesn't have any application for now but still it's amusing, particularly for the appartment.
You've included a games link in the PC but there are none.
The kitchen is useless. I hope it will be useful for the cooking skill.
I feel like you should train or work, not the 2 the same day. It's supposed to be open on saturday but it's not (and for what? extra money? training?).
The images selection is good though, be careful, there's an image of a daddy sleeping with a pillow between his legs for the MC. I think there's too much choice for the photo of the MC at the start.
The smartphone seems buggy. You can't phone uncle Sylas. The message when you contact Dalton is incomprehensible (cf files). And when you get the promotion, you can't click anywhere (cf files). I had to refresh for it to work.

Your english is good so don't worry.

You've forgotten a weapon shop and a training ground for the gun skill.
I don't see the use for the crime skill. Maybe my vision is too narrow.

I found some errors (cf files).

If you click on restart, the game is filed with errors that weren't there the first play.

Sorry for bothering you but I just wanted to help out.

Anyway, good luck. Since you've already the rest in your head, I'm curious of what you have in stock for us.

 

[Rafster]

So far the character's personalities are compelling and the UI in this game is stunning. I love the world map. You can tell a lot of effort went into this. It's a great start to a game and I'm excited to see where it goes.

I'm glad you like it, I also love both of your games, but you already know that.

Oliz82 , if you don't mind, I'll be quoting you separately, you deserve to be answered on every thing you found, I'm really thankful for your feedback. It seems you have found some nasty bugs and errors I must fix ASAP, maybe I'll have to publish the update sooner than I thought.

Some stats are too easy to increase (you talk to the movers and your uncle and already gain 8 social points) while others are really hard (the top stats, since there are few scenes for them).

Yeah, I need to rebalance social skill. On earlier versions social was hard to increase, then I came up with the solution of increasing social when you interact with anyone, but it seems I went overboard on that. I'm thinking I should nerf the social gain you get from talking/having sex to 1-2.

It's too easy to gain money for the use we have in game.

Another balance problem I noticed when I was testing out the JCS level 1 and I will adress ASAP while I work on the level 2 (as soon as I finish the Gizzly Bear Gym. I'm working on it right now) And gets worse by the fact that money isn't used as much on this build yet because I don't have a proper inventory system going on, I need to add more items to every shop. I think a nerf on the daily earnings/bonus is in order too.

I feel like the energy drop too easily, though it's also easy to replenish it.

I'm also planning to have other ways to replenish energy that does not force you to go home.

It's interesting to be able to choose what we want to see in the sex scenes.

I'm glad you like it, my goal is that every player gets to choose their favorite kinks/ sex actions. There will be cases when you don't get to choose, but even on those cases I'll make sure you can refuse entirely the sex scene (for example, on the random scene with Mack).

You didn't do anything with health yet though I found it interesting to include some consequences when we take risks (it shouldn't be limited to sexual ones though).

The health system is planned for later, but I'll give you a preview: my plans for health is that you get STDs randomly over sex, not fatal ones, but some of them very annoying. Additionally, you can get sick if you don't clean the apartment at least once every week, or injured on any fight, and you'll need to get treated at the hospital. But to do that I need to get to the hospital...I guess I will hide it until I get to that part.

We're supposed to pay the rent in Dalton's office but, in reality, he comes to MC appartment.

That's a big OOPS on my part. I'll have to change the scene where the rent payment takes place. Noted for fix on the next update.

You've included a cleanliness system but it doesn't have any application for now but still it's amusing, particularly for the appartment.

It's a system that I will implement very soon. My idea for the cleanliness system, is that many NPCs may refuse sex with you if your cleanliness is low (some of them will ignore it, these will be the most piggy ones xD). I'm planning to implement it on one or two updates from now, while I work on JCS level 2

You've included a games link in the PC but there are none.

Another option I will delete until I figure out what to do with it.

The kitchen is useless. I hope it will be useful for the cooking skill.

You guessed it, the kitchen will be used to improve the kitchen skill, prepare meals for dates ( I have planned dates on your apartment) or just make food to replenish energy. I'll dedicate an update just for that.

I feel like you should train or work, not the 2 the same day. It's supposed to be open on saturday but it's not (and for what? extra money? training?).

Actually, you can do the 2 things. the 2 training sections and meeting dalton can be done before doing the daily main job. You must be wary of your energy though, if you do the 2 trainings on one day plus the daily work, you end with zero energy when you return home.

The images selection is good though, be careful, there's an image of a daddy sleeping with a pillow between his legs for the MC. I think there's too much choice for the photo of the MC at the start.

Noted. I'm not planning to expand it for the moment though.

The smartphone seems buggy. You can't phone uncle Sylas. The message when you contact Dalton is incomprehensible (cf files). And when you get the promotion, you can't click anywhere (cf files). I had to refresh for it to work.

The phone system is not implemented completely, and I'll take another look to it. The call contacts option will be implemented later. I'll give you an advance: the idea is to gain friendship/romance/ or plan a date with a romantic interest, but I had to put it on the backlog while I work on the JCS storyline. But I'll get to fix to the call when you get the promotion ASAP.

You've forgotten a weapon shop and a training ground for the gun skill.

I don't see the use for the crime skill. Maybe my vision is too narrow.

Noted, in fact, I planned a shooting range where you can raise gun skill/buy a firearm. It will be implemented when I get to the police/crime/military storylines (there will be one for each one). For now, gun_skill, just like crime are placeholders.

I found some errors (cf files).

Do you meon those on the screenshots? I'll take a look one every one of them ASAP. Thank you for reporting them.

If you click on restart, the game is filed with errors that weren't there the first play.

Yikes, to tell you the truth, I never used the reset button, even when I play other twine games. Noted to take a look, but try to avoid it for now. But I'll get to investigate it too. Thanks again.

Sorry for bothering you but I just wanted to help out.

Anyway, good luck. Since you've already the rest in your head, I'm curious of what you have in stock for us.

No, thank YOU for the detailed and insightful feedback, don't be afraid to be as harsh as you like please. I need all the feedback I can get before I even think on a release here.

EDIT: Oh I forgot about your comment about the top sex skills, you are right, there is an over abundance of the bottom encounters...I'll work on adding more top encounters (mainly before the third storyline, which will be Mack's brothel, and you'll need all those sex skills).

EDIT2: By the way, right now I'm working on the Grizzly Cave Gym, a new location to raise muscle and martial arts skills. And lots of sex too, I haven't forgot that part

 

[Oliz82]

Hello.

Thanks. It was interesting reading your explanations.

Do you meon those on the screenshots? I'll take a look one every one of them ASAP. Thank you for reporting them.

Yeah. I think it is more useful for the dev to have a screenshot to directly go to the scene concerned by the problem.
Some precisions to help you more :
Display error : when Louie's team come and you can have sex with them or Louie alone
Naming error : in the first speech of Louie, MC name doesn't appear normaly
Red link : after beating Brian at the challenge, when he invites you to his fun place to have sex

Yikes, to tell you the truth, I never used the reset button, even when I play other twine games. Noted to take a look, but try to avoid it for now. But I'll get to investigate it too. Thanks again.

I couldn't find how to pay the rent so I restarded the game to see if I missed something in the conversation since it was at the start and saw all those errors.

No, thank YOU for the detailed and insightful feedback, don't be afraid to be as harsh as you like please. I need all the feedback I can get before I even think on a release here.

There's no need to be harsh. Constructive discussion is better. I'm glad I could help.

 

[Rafster]

Just an update on how things are going:

Bug fixes.

* The screens shown by Oliz82 were fixed. I have yet to fix the smartphone one but it's noted on the list.
* Some users may have trouble navigating the game with screen resolutions lower than the base I used on this game (1280x1024), and the game does not have horizontal or vertical scrollbars to move. I enabled them on 0.15, but until I deploy that update, I recommend you to use the zoom in/out functions on your browsers. I tested on firefox (PC) with the ctrl+mouse wheel to zoom out and I was able to see the map zooming out.
* The skill gains were rebalanced through the whole game, on 0.14 they were extremely easy. I don't want this game to become a russian grind, but I was on the other extreme, and I don't want players to get bored by playing only 10 minutes lol.

New features:

* Implemented the cleanliness system. Maybe you noticed when you take a shower/bath that cleanliness got up, right? well, there is a reason for this stat. This stat will now state how is Ryan's hygiene on the game. It will decrease every 12 hours/ or with some actions, and to replenish it back to 100 you just have to shower/relax on tube on your home again.

If you let the cleanliness go below 20, some NPCs may react to it (Dalton hates it) maybe not allowing you to have sex or other activities with them. Other piggy NPCs may not mind or even compliment you if you smell bad...so you'll have to see. The game will warn you on the sidebar when the cleanliness stat is low. On the help screen will be details about this.

Please note that getting a shower/relax in the bathtub uses soap bars, they can be bought on the convenience store on the mall.

* Implemented the Bear Claw Gym. If you assist to the random demonstration on the mall, you will be given out the location of this gym. Here you can train your muscle skill, or your martial arts skill. Details about this will come later on the week.

 

[dumbdog]

Really really good start, left a review. I got to the end of current content and (I think) found everything I could experience. Played a lot of other M/M games and they don't seem to last so long. I hope you'll continue this project.

 

[glenthhw]

omg love this game so far (*3*)/ i will definitely support you, keep working!

 

[Rafster]

Really really good start, left a review. I got to the end of current content and (I think) found everything I could experience. Played a lot of other M/M games and they don't seem to last so long. I hope you'll continue this project.

omg love this game so far (*3*)/ i will definitely support you, keep working!

Thank you so much for your kind comments...this motivates me a lot more to get my ass to twine and hurry the next update.

Dev wise...yesterday I almost broke the game completely by replacing the martial arts skill with a fighting skill. Errors popped out like ants...they were everywhere. Fortunately I managed to get them under control...but now it means that everyone should begin again from the scratch on the next update. I apologize deeply for that, in any case, there is a cheat screen that will allow you to raise your skill scores as you had originally.

I'm writing the initial scenes of the muscle and fighting training sections on the gym right now.

 

[glenthhw]

Don't worry, i dont mind if i have to start over, take your time (´,,•ω•,,)♡

 

[Rafster]

Another update on how's things are going:

Initial scenes of muscle and fighting training sections done. I also have ready the muscle section of the gym, with the training sessions, and two sex scenes with the instructor, Roy (yeah, I changed the name from the mall demo). One is unavailable at the moment since it depends on an event from the fighting section that is not done yet (Brawler's Pit). On the fighting side, I'll only include some training sessions, but no content on the instructor, the training partners or the tournament (Brawler's Pit) yet. They will be added on the update that follows this one.

On wednesday or thursday I'll be testing it along with some testers on the discord, and I think I'll have the update 0.15 ready for friday if all goes well.

 

[surfpup]

I've only played a little bit (Day 6?), but I love the concept. The only part that bothers me a bit is when there are blank thumbnail icons. I know it's an early work in progress, but they kind of break the immersion for me. Looking forward to the next release and good job.
Oh, you can't do anything at JCS on Saturday yet, can you? I was going to use the gym or maybe train, but I have no options other than I'm gonna go outside.

 

[Rafster]

I've only played a little bit (Day 6?), but I love the concept. The only part that bothers me a bit is when there are blank thumbnail icons. I know it's an early work in progress, but they kind of break the immersion for me. Looking forward to the next release and good job.
Oh, you can't do anything at JCS on Saturday yet, can you? I was going to use the gym or maybe train, but I have no options other than I'm gonna go outside.

First of all, thank you for playing and the feedback, I appreciate it a lot.

Regarding what you said with the blank thumbnails, you mean the default one I use, right? I intend to use it on characters that are not relevant to the plot/ or have repeated sex scenes. I don't see an easy solution for that though.... but I'll consider that seriously anyway, if I can change something on that regard you will be the first one to know. It worries me that players cannot inmerse on the game adequately. Oh, if you see any broken images pls report them too.

The game as the version 0.14 does not have any places other than home, the shopping mall, or JCS. On the next update I'll be adding the Gym (only part of it, though), and yes, working on saturday will be enabled on that version. I'm aware that there isn't too much to do besides the work at JCS right now, it's one of the things I intend to fix before releasing it here.

 

[surfpup]

I'm just brainstorming here, but maybe icons like this for non-relevant male/female characters instead of the gray icon? Maybe it would be prettier?

 

[Nerosatan]

this games shows a lot of potential. im excited for the future of your work. that being said, i think there should be a little more imagery to balance out with the convo. nothing crazy and not even sexual but i think it can help immerse yourself into the experience of the game if possible. (back burner idea)

wondering, what kinks you plan on adding and which you plan on leaving out as a fan of young marcus.

 

[ryanstevenz]

I enjoyed your work, thanks for sharing it with us

 

[Rafster]

I'm just brainstorming here, but maybe icons like this for non-relevant male/female characters instead of the gray icon? Maybe it would be prettier?

You nailed it, I didn't think of that, If I may, I saved the pic, and I plan to have a couple more of variations of those two icons.

this games shows a lot of potential. im excited for the future of your work. that being said, i think there should be a little more imagery to balance out with the convo. nothing crazy and not even sexual but i think it can help immerse yourself into the experience of the game if possible. (back burner idea)

I thought of that myself .... I know I need more pics for the convos...I'll see if I can add more. Sometimes I often get carried away when I start writing

wondering, what kinks you plan on adding and which you plan on leaving out as a fan of young marcus.

That's a tough question. Because YM cover a vast array of kinks, and this project started focusing only on mine. The start point is to focus on hairy dudes (older guys, bears, muscle bears, cubs and everything in between) and vanilla sex.

Kink wise, I plan to add: Chastity (It's a big kink of mine, but it won't have any sissification content at all. That is a promise, because that is a turn off for me), male domination (only for certain scenes for now. I have planned a whole storyline dedicated to this). Classic orgies, 3-somes... fisting too. BDSM and leather too but I need to think a suitable scenario. Humilliation too. Uniforms will also be covered too (clue: a whole cop-centered storyline), prostitution, cigar smoking dudes (I don't smoke and I don't like it IRL...but somehow those daddies smoking cigars turn me on badly), watersports, suits too and public sex.

Unfortunately, I'm leaving out two big kinks that I know they are very popular....one being incest. With incest I don't feel comfortable writing about it to be honest. The other would be rape. Truth be told, that is one of my kinks but if I plan to get a patreon I won't cross that line. Bestiality is another which will be out.

There is one subject, and is the fabled NTR. Honestly, I haven't looked into it, so I don't know if I like it or not...but we'll leave it out for the moment until I get a grasp of it.

I enjoyed your work, thanks for sharing it with us

Thank you for your kind words.

Oh, By the way, we'll have the next update this friday. It's mostly a couple of bug fixes, and the start of the gym content.

 

[Oliz82]

Hello.

The only part that bothers me a bit is when there are blank thumbnail icons. I know it's an early work in progress, but they kind of break the immersion for me.

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I'm just brainstorming here, but maybe icons like this for non-relevant male/female characters instead of the gray icon? Maybe it would be prettier?

You nailed it, I didn't think of that, If I may, I saved the pic, and I plan to have a couple more of variations of those two icons.

I also found it strange but I thought you left it like that because it was a demo. From my point of view, the colorful pics could work but you could also insert random real people to stay in the "real people" of the game.
I would like to precise something : there are random people we don't interact with like in the mall when we "Hang out for a while" or in the public restroom and recurring people (the exhibitionnist in the toilet or Mr Callister, the man cheating his wife).
I think you should differentiate them. I don't know if what I'm saying is understandable though.

That's a tough question. Because YM cover a vast array of kinks, and this project started focusing only on mine. The start point is to focus on hairy dudes (older guys, bears, muscle bears, cubs and everything in between) and vanilla sex.

Kink wise, I plan to add: Chastity (It's a big kink of mine, but it won't have any sissification content at all. That is a promise, because that is a turn off for me), male domination (only for certain scenes for now. I have planned a whole storyline dedicated to this). Classic orgies, 3-somes... fisting too. BDSM and leather too but I need to think a suitable scenario. Humilliation too. Uniforms will also be covered too (clue: a whole cop-centered storyline), prostitution, cigar smoking dudes (I don't smoke and I don't like it IRL...but somehow those daddies smoking cigars turn me on badly), watersports, suits too and public sex.

Unfortunately, I'm leaving out two big kinks that I know they are very popular....one being incest. With incest I don't feel comfortable writing about it to be honest. The other would be rape. Truth be told, that is one of my kinks but if I plan to get a patreon I won't cross that line. Bestiality is another which will be out.

There is one subject, and is the fabled NTR. Honestly, I haven't looked into it, so I don't know if I like it or not...but we'll leave it out for the moment until I get a grasp of it.

If you're talking about kinks, I think you should stay with kinks appealing to you. And don't include kinks proposed by the players if it's not your cup of tea because a kink for the sake of it or to please the players are always done wrongly.
I think you can include all the kinks you're talking about as long as it's done well (story, good images, not too extreme, context...).
You're talking about chastity. Personally, it isn't arousing at all, sissification or not. But I'll judge after I see what you've done with it. There are some kinks in Young Marcus - Expanded or in Demitranference that aren't for me, though nothing in them put me out.
For me, I found the process of hypnosis very arousing. Though what happens after is always a kill boner. And when I see a double penetration, I'm always wondering how is that even possible (it's not a kink here, just a thought).
Not some suggestions. Just talking about kinks/your kinks/my kinks to cover the topic to the best.

I'll take advantage that I'm here to report some issues. After the promotion, you continue to work with Clay though he is supposed to have resigned and moved to another city. The same, if you "Meet Mr Johnson in his office", the promotion scene is replaying each time.

Less than two days of waiting^^.

 

[Rafster]

I also found it strange but I thought you left it like that because it was a demo. From my point of view, the colorful pics could work but you could also insert random real people to stay in the "real people" of the game.
I would like to precise something : there are random people we don't interact with like in the mall when we "Hang out for a while" or in the public restroom and recurring people (the exhibitionnist in the toilet or Mr Callister, the man cheating his wife).
I think you should differentiate them. I don't know if what I'm saying is understandable though.

It's perfectly understandable. My rule until now was to give portraits only to characters who will have more than two sex encounters, major characters (that's how Clay was born. Initially, I only intended him to be a random character with a default portrait, but then I saw how Ryan was going to interact with him every single mission on level 1...so I decided to flesh him out) or persons who will have repeated interactions with you (Mike and Louie of JCS fall in this category).

Characters like the cheater Tom, his wife Vera, Dale or Wade's buddies on the 3-some scene on the mall's bathroom were intended to have the default portrait...but maybe here is where I went too far. Using the same portrait for them seems to break the immersion of the players, as you and surfpup reported. Now it has become an issue I will be tackling while I do the next update.

Honestly, I'm considering and thinking both of your suggestions. surfpup idea might allow me to save size and time by not doing every single character portrait but the game might feel too similar to what it is now, while yours could give a more realistic and polished look to the game but it involves to make portraits for minor characters too (like Dale, or Tom ... I'll even include JCS's receptionist on this category). The size of the frigging portraits really pile up (and I do optimize them before including them in the game) and I don't want to end with a .rar full of >100 portraits of minor characters.

Now that I think of it...without realizing it, maybe both of you might like the approach I did to the Gym. Both instructors had default portraits...that won't be the case anymore, and your training partners on the fighting section of the gym will have their own portraits, every one of them. The only person on the gym that does not have a portrait is the receptionist. I will need your feedback about this approach when I release the update on friday.

I'll take advantage that I'm here to report some issues. After the promotion, you continue to work with Clay though he is supposed to have resigned and moved to another city. The same, if you "Meet Mr Johnson in his office", the promotion scene is replaying each time.

I disabled that event on 0.15. Until we start level 2, that event won't trigger anymore.

Again, thank you for your feedback, I'm so happy that the people is interested and give me suggestions like these to improve my amateur project.

 

[Whale_Shark]

and no, M/M sex is NOT avoidable

I think its kinda hilarious that you had to put this in the post