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I'll see what I can do about the body types (because that means introducing a new character) but you're correct, this game needs more appeal.
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Eh. I don't really agree.
The girls are cute so far.
Currently girls are very appealing.
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But still maybe I need to work towards making the girls more distinct for the broader audience
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Eh. It might work.But still maybe I need to work towards making the girls more distinct for the broader audience
But often specialization is the key to success instead.
In porn in particular, every fetish you add drives away some of the existing audience members in exchange for potentially appealing to new ones.
keep in mind that people masturbate to your game. So adding their anti fetish can ruin the experience, even if it is optional it can ruin the mood. Especially if the options are not integrated intelligently. The correct way to make content optional is to disable it via settings menu. This is due to the "don't think of pink elephants" effect. which can make you visualize a scene even if you don't click on it.
Sometimes it can work to diversify, but from my observation most times it backfires and trying to court competing groups actually reduces the support a game has.
If it is a one and done token scene, it gives you all the negatives with very little positive.
A straight man is not going to download a gay game with 100 gay scenes and 1 token straight scene.
But if you make many scenes for the new demographic, then it is a major effort and time investment cutting out development of other demographics. And it might not be as popular with them. Because being very skill at making gay porn attractive to gay men is a very different skill from making straight porn targetted at straight guys. Likewise for other fetishes. You might be the greatest creator of straight harem game, but terrible at making piss fetishist satisfied.
Sometimes dev spent all that time and effort to "diversify" their games, and end up losing a bunch of subs. So they need to work more hours at dayjob and less hours making the game. which means less content. which means more lost subs. and you end up with an abandoned game.
It also varies by how contentious the new demographic is.
I don't think people will dump the game if you add one flat chested girl. (although it might be the straw the broke the camel's back for some people. it is unlikely to be all that many). But again that runs into tokenism, a guy who hates boobs and only likes flat girls is unlikely to come to your game for 1 token flat girl. he will want more.
Also that guy also mentioned more contentious fetishes like loli. who can absolutely end up be a net financial cost to add to your game. Especially if you don't have a large team of developers.
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Thank you for the advice and I'm aware of the cost to bring new girl/content/fetish in, as you may see that Lust Devil is not a girl as first as I intended to fully focus on the original girls, but then I find that I can have "it" as a "her" so people don't have to wait too long for any sex, which is a plus. And it ended up nicely because now I have more premises to expand on because with every girl I add I can make the devil however I like (and insert her in whenever I see fit), keeping both the parody part as well as diversifying the game in a manageable pace.
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Hey cool game. I think it stills need some tweakings, like in animation, looks a little bit stiffy (but is already a huge merit for not using the default animations, so probably you will manage to improve this out eventually, I can't even think of creating anything by myself using this timeline feature on Koikatsu lol). And some character models, not saying they are bad, but specifically Power, I think it can be worked out on distributing some thickness on her thighs since she's has a pretty perky butt, looks a little bit off seeing a big ass alongside her thin legs for example, about the other girls, I can't say much about it . Also denji's face looks a lil bit weird, I don't think it's a big deal at all but it would be nice to tweak his appearence a bit.
Working in some enviromental lightning and the scene's shaders will be a good touch too. Saw a lot of koikatsu artists using these features and delivering some hot stuff just how well managed the lighning was worked out. Anyways, going to watch this thread, good luck with the project, I'm liking to see where this project is going.
. Also denji's face looks a lil bit weird, I don't think it's a big deal at all but it would be nice to tweak his appearence a bit.Working in some enviromental lightning and the scene's shaders will be a good touch too. Saw a lot of koikatsu artists using these features and delivering some hot stuff just how well managed the lighning was worked out. Anyways, going to watch this thread, good luck with the project, I'm liking to see where this project is going
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I cant give you a concrete answer yet because that depends on whether would I have the girls interact with each other. Let say I won't, then femdom will be avoidable. So not decided yet.
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That's a lot of advice so thank you, two things I will address is that the animation/lighting and scene shader. Some of Power's blood sucking scene is from 3 months ago when I was very new with KK but because the classroom scenes were even worst so I have to prioritize that (it was an absolute trainwreck). About the animation in the early day I aim to make really long animation (for example: Denji imagining sucking Makima's boobs - 32 seconds). I don't think I got it in me to do that again so I'm aiming for more short animations in one scene and the player can just choose what they like. With this update I also have to re-render Makima scene because I update her model so hopefully one day I get the time to render Power's scene and animation again.Hey cool game. I think it stills need some tweakings, like in animation, looks a little bit stiffy (but is already a huge merit for not using the default animations, so probably you will manage to improve this out eventually, I can't even think of creating anything by myself using this timeline feature on Koikatsu lol). And some character models, not saying they are bad, but specifically Power, I think it can be worked out on distributing some thickness on her thighs since she's has a pretty perky butt, looks a little bit off seeing a big ass alongside her thin legs for example, about the other girls, I can't say much about it
Working in some enviromental lightning and the scene's shaders will be a good touch too. Saw a lot of koikatsu artists using these features and delivering some hot stuff just how well managed the lighning was worked out. Anyways, going to watch this thread, good luck with the project, I'm liking to see where this project is going
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In my opinion, the LIs have to agree to share the MC for it to be a real harem. That is, they know that the MC is with other girls, they know them and they don't care.
If the LIs think they are the only one and don't know that the MC is with other girls, it's not a harem, it's cheating. And that's something I'm not interested in.
Is the game going to be a real harem or is the MC just going to have several girlfriends that he cheats on each other? Because the answer to this is important.
From the answer I deduce that if the game is a real harem, we will have unavoidable femdom. But if the MC is dedicated to cheating the LIs and they don't find out that he is with others, then there will be avoidable femdom.
If this is so, then I don't like either of the two possible options.
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I love lust so far. she is great.
and you give us a choice between femdom or maledom. very nice.
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Very good points, but it seems like I have make you misunderstand so I shoukd rephrase it, the "interact" in the second quote meaning that if they will have their story affected/branching depends on what happen to others girl. I intended to have the girls know of each other regradless of that (so there wont be cheating in any sense and seeing them fight for your affection is a good selling point). This game is a one-man project so I try to keep it manageable, if the girls story also depends/alters too much based on other girls I cant keep it up. Let say I want an event where Denji have to choose between Makima and Power, as of now v0.5 you can continue Power storyline just fine without having to think about Makima, but what would happen when I write that event ? If you opted out of Makima earlier, you also miss that event for Power, but if you want to play that event, you have to play Makima route which is femdom. As of now I dont plan anything that complicated yet, so this is just a rough outline of my intention.
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I'm glad to hear that, and many will be turned off by femdom so Im very carefully exploring that area
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Continuing with the example, if Makina's route is exclusively femdom, I'm not going to follow it even if I lose events with other LIs, and the same goes for any other LI that I don't like or has a fetish that I dislike. On the other hand, usually when I get to a point where I have to choose between two or more LIs that I like, my choice is usually to close the game and look for another one.