Disturbed by lolicon and bestiality.

[The-real-Vastitas]

Quiet surprised somebody still feels offended by any kink at all really...have a look guys :

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there is not one in the top 100 without any extreme or at the very least unavailable irl.
So by majority draw, unless that stuff gets dialed down by law at some point or Patreon owners consider to drop NSFW games completely ( there is a live discussion but let's face it they earn a lot of money so they wont do shit) , the only way to actually earn money creating adult games is to go to the extreme so you better be prepared to see a lot more of it
in the future.

 

[Nightcrawler]

Its pixels, everybody has their own fetish for me Shota and bestiality are just no, My preference.To my mind if people keep their fetish to pixels no harm done let them carry out their fantasy in a game .So from a game point of view it doesn't disturb me if it spills over into real life then yes it would.

 

[wep]

Quiet surprised somebody still feels offended by any kink at all really...have a look guys :

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there is not one in the top 100 without any extreme or at the very least unavailable irl.
So by majority draw, unless that stuff gets dialed down by law at some point or Patreon owners consider to drop NSFW games completely ( there is a live discussion but let's face it they earn a lot of money so they wont do shit) , the only way to actually earn money creating adult games is to go to the extreme so you better be prepared to see a lot more of it
in the future.

Patreon is a public system. The company and who can know your name from the credit card data. Probably it is not the best idea support really extreme game.

 

[gamersglory]

Japanese society never had a problem with it. You could go in manga stores throughout Japan and in the adult sections, they would have a whole subsection for Loli and the like. Tell 2 years ago when western influences started (Read UN) pressed the government of Japan to conform to Western standards. I don't defend it but I thought the amount of stuff the UN and US put Japan through for something that was part of their culture whether you agree or not.

 

[DickFury]

Patreon is a public system. The company and who can know your name from the credit card data. Probably it is not the best idea support really extreme game.

well... i see no problem with that, and patreon staffs also know, anything that happens in game, if ppl like it, is ok,,

why in japan in all times is lowest rape % from around the world?
bc japanese can live out their fantasy in mangas and eroges. and there plently of it. and they are happy with it, noone get harmed,. specially childs.. and fetishists doesnt have to be afraid of 40 years of jail......

imho its ok..

i personally dislike some things too in these games, but i like other things, i can just ignore what i dont like (unless if its really disgusting)
but why would i insist on those fetishes being banned just bc i dont like them?

i really dont like idea of sleeping with mother,, in these games i just dont see them as mothers but just womens. thats it, much easier, and every1 happy, i can play and enjoy game..............

ppl that yell this and that should be banned should be permamently banned instead, from this planet.. send them to mars, there no porn, no lolicon, no bestiality, no whatever else.....

 

[wep]

yes, we can probably agree here. But in USA you can go in jail for one of these japanese game/comics.

 

[DickFury]

yes, we can probably agree here. But in USA you can go in jail for one of these japanese game/comics.

USA need Obama back then, hell fix these stupid laws in some time.. no matter what ppl say there, i think obama did try to actually make ppl life better there. one way or another. im not from USA so i dont know for sure. sry if im wrong...

and yeh. to avoid this law, only need to state that all charachters are 18+...
even if its obvious that they are not (even in these games here 99% are obvious and even logical that they are not 18)
breast size and ponytails are no proof of age =)


EDIT: i did read other day something about the matter,, i forgot what country did insist the most for banning lolicon manga and censore all other hentai.
and that country was always highest rape count..... ppl did assume they want japan to ban this all so maybe japan will overcome them (coz japanese known for being all always horny. and without all that manga they would start living their fetish irl)


if they start banning everything based on what happens in real life..

they should ban all
movies - drugs, sex,alcohol,violence, fake love story =)
cartoons - violence. alco, drugs. talking animals.. pink pony
games (even super mario) - nothing but killing someone.. even PEGI 3 games are still about killing something.. except for tetris...

they should ban car's, airplanes,ships, etc. as its one of top reasons why ppl die.

they should ban goverment of every country. bc those bastards start wars with each other but regular ppl have to go and kill each other.........

no wait, lets just ban lolicon. bc its most dangerous!!!!!! (how u like my sarcasm lel)

 

[pcg50]

USA need Obama back then, hell fix these stupid laws in some time.. no matter what ppl say there, i think obama did try to actually make ppl life better there. one way or another. im not from USA so i dont know for sure. sry if im wrong...

Watch Kc Johnson lectures on the matter (and probably

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i haven't yet read that massive article on slate ) Obama was instrumental in pushing ridiculous anti duo process rape laws in campus , I don't think his position on this matter would be different , it was way easier to defend Duo process than Fringe sexual fetishes .

 

[DickFury]

Watch Kc Johnson lectures on the matter (and probably

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i haven't yet read that massive article on slate ) Obama was instrumental in pushing ridiculous anti duo process rape laws in campus , I don't think his position on this matter would be different , it was way easier to defend Duo process than Fringe sexual fetishes .

oh i see. i didnt mean something likje this when said hes done good fro USA.
i did see in news that he was makin social things for ppl who had no possibility to get those, like medical threatment etc. also for poor ppl he done some things too.
this in my opinion worth alot, when president doesnt try to make new laws to milk ppl but to rearrange country budget (and USA has good budget. unlike most other countries) to help ppl in need (tho ofc humanity is that kind of stupid animals,, that alot ppl did abuse it.. but its not Obama to blame.)

sry if we are going out of topic and im not sure we are allowed to talk about politics on a porn game forum =)

i did hear you, understood and respect what you said.

have a pleasant day/night

 

[gamersglory]

yes, we can probably agree here. But in USA you can go in jail for one of these japanese game/comics.

Now you can go to Jail in Japan for this kind of stuff now thanks to outside pressure

 

[Huppard]

Fiction is Fiction and art should be always free. I vote for more loli sex !

 

[armion82]

We are on a site that posts games with incest, and other fetishes. These games are just fantasy. Now as someone who doesn't give a shit one way or other I know that most have what they like for a fetish and what they do not. Me I don't share with other men in games so I stay away from NTR, and I also stay away from Female protagonist games. But there are many games with NTR and people love them. To those I say enjoy, and to those that say eww to bestiality and lolita stuff. Just stick to the games you like, and let others play the games they like. I like impregnation, still haven't found a game with that in it; haven't looked hard, but its my thing.

I think Lab Rats have already impregnation,Corruption soon will have too,probably Katie's Corruption will have,maybe even Dreaming of Dana,Dreams of Desire and Dating my Daughter.

 

[RemyZero]

Not gonna lie it's pretty weird. If I was a horny 13 years old I wouldn't give AF but at a certain point you gotta consider the moral implications. Then you must ask yourself if this is the kind of content you want to introduce into your mind-drive.

There are victims in the real world that go through such traumatic situations that are depicted in these so-called fictional scenarios. When you think about it, it's utterly sickening. I would never want anyone to be put in such a situation. Yet, it happens everyday. Someone was a victim of sexual abuse while I was writing this post.

That brings us back to the moral implications: is a fleeting moment of pleasure really worth the toll it takes on our humanity and empathy? Do we become lesser individuals because we cave in to our lesser cravings of pleasure... and to what end does that rabbit hole lead us? Is vanilla the best flavor?

 

[yihman1]

There is a new trend amongst Patreons who vote for lolicon, rape and bestiality in games. My sister Mia, Lida's Adventures and Katie's corruption are the ones I've played where bestiality and/or rape have been introduced. I also see a number of Lolicon posts. Whilst I'm not the best person to judge, I believe that any form of sex has to be between two (or more) consenting adults (human or alien...)) even in games as posted on F95zone. Abusing defenceless or voiceless beings in my books is just not on, quite repulsive actually.
I'm very careful to read the tags now before DL a game.
Do you think we are getting insensitised to this type of abuse as we are now to graphic violence in movies and games?
Just curious to know if anybody else feels the same way.

I am offended when it is 2 characters who are not married to one another having sex that is not missionary position for procreation. Not really... but you could imagine.

Here is the deal. Lets imagine that there is a disturbed individual. They sexually fantasize about raping little girls, and having sex with dogs. Here are their options:

Option 1: Put a bullet in their own head.
Pro: Not going to hurt anyone else
Con: Kills self, family probably sad

Option 2: Seek out a counselor, or some other professional to talk to.
Pro: Trying to reform
Con: Definitely they get put on some list, and they are boned.

Option 3: Seek out actual PTHC / bestiality porn on the dark web
Pro: Find some masturbatory material
Con: Little girls actually harmed, and paying for such subsidizes this activity. Also highly illegal criminal time.

Option 4: Say screw it go live out these dark fantasies RL
Pro: Fantasies lived out
Con: Others lives destroyed, reputation ruined,and your life ruined

Option 5: Try to give up the desire, and think of other things to masturbate to
Pro: You don't hurt anyone try to be normal
Con: You are not normal, and forever unfulfilled

Option 6: Talk to a close friend, or significant other about this
Pro: Get it off your chest
Con: They will never look at you the same way again. Risking losing relationships.

Option 7: Use lolicon anime cartoon girls and cartoon dogs to get off
Pro: You get off by it. You maintain your friends, and relationships, and reputation. You fulfill your fantasy. Nobody is harmed. You risk nothing. You find a way to scratch that itch.
Con: None, there are no victims.

Not every pedophile is a child molester. Almost none are. Think about it. You walk in to a bar and you see a beautiful 25 year old woman. She looks like a model. You get a boner. You would love to drag her into the bathroom, and fuck her brains out right now. Does that mean you do that? No of course not. You, and I do not randomly rape every woman we find attractive. Most men do not. So this means that pedophiles also do not randomly rape every kid they find attractive most of the time. Child molesters are as common among pedophiles as rapists are among normal men.

 

[muttdoggy]

This observation ties into "desensitization part" of the OP's question..
I've worked in group homes and as part of team overseeing parolees. To be very fair, my observation I'm going to use is ONLY concerning those who have "average or better" intelligence so for that reason, you can be assured their brains worked correctly.
The victim is affected for LIFE. There is no way around that. Their behavior is never the same again no matter who they are.
Based on my direct observation.. in ALL but one case, the aggressor starts becoming desensitized and starts showing a lack of empathy, moral compass, and humanity. They actually become more and more dangerous as time goes by. All of them except the one who tried to make amends ended up going back to prison.

@yihman1, it would be nice if option #7 actually worked every time. I would love that if it did! But you must admit that in many cases, it's actually done the opposite and sent the "fantasizer" out seeking victims. In my opinion, they MUST use options 2, 5, and 6. They must seek therapy and consent to a lifestyle change because no child should ever be abused. I've worked directly with convicted pedophiles and none were able to control the "urges" even when given other numerous options. You must understand that if they do it once, there is NO going back. And honestly, you can NEVER be too careful with pedophiles. They are only 1 thought, 1 action away from becoming a child molester. That's all it takes.

 

[yihman1]

@yihman1, it would be nice if option #7 actually worked every time. I would love that if it did! But you must admit that in many cases, it's actually done the opposite and sent the "fantasizer" out seeking victims. In my opinion, they MUST use options 2, 5, and 6. They must seek therapy and consent to a lifestyle change because no child should ever be abused. I've worked directly with convicted pedophiles and none were able to control the "urges" even when given other numerous options. You must understand that if they do it once, there is NO going back. And honestly, you can NEVER be too careful with pedophiles. They are only 1 thought, 1 action away from becoming a child molester. That's all it takes.

What video games you play has little to no correlation with what you do in reality. When I was little I would play super mario brothers. Millions of kids did. How many of us went around jumping on turtles, and eating random mushrooms we find? Maybe like 5 retarded kids?

I would play first person shooters a lot as well. Don't plan on shooting anybody in real life unless they break in to my house.

Played a whole bunch of GTA. I have yet to steal anyones car, or rnu anyone over... Nor have I beat up a hooker.

Games are games to live out absurd fantasies that you can't in real life.

As for your working directly with convicted pedophiles that is a case of something similar to the "survivor fallacy" altering your view. I worked at a Veterans Hospital a few years back. I met a lot of wounded veterans. Often times they were shot in the leg, or arm. Sometimes they suffered some burns. Didn't really meet very many who were shot in the head. Does that mean none were shot in the head? According to what I observed helmets are a waste of tax dollars, and more money should be put into better boots, arm, and leg guards.... Of course that is not the case, it means that those were the dead ones that didn't make it to the hospital.

Similarly the ones you worked with were already convicted. It's the equivalent of working at a gay bar, and thinking oh almost all men must be gay because most men I meet are gay. You only interacted with the criminal element.

 

[random887766]

Example 1: The MC uses mind control and rapes an adult character in a game.
Example 2: The MC kills other characters in the game.
Example 3: The MC has sex with a loli character in a game.

What doesn't make sense to me is how some people can play the games from example 1 or 2 and not have any problem but they find fault with the game in example 3. There are laws against engaging in sexual activity with people who are underage for good reason. Because it protects real people from harm. There are also laws against rape and murder. But for some reason lolicon characters are treated like they are more real than the characters from other games even though they are just as fictional. Maybe it doesn't actually have anything to do with the characters or the content but more what those people think it means about the people who enjoy that content.

But I still don't understand why some people would think that anyone who plays a lolicon game must be a pedophile when they themselves play games like GTA and they are not in real life actual rapists or murderers. Personally I enjoy playing games with loli content. I also enjoy playing games with rape content and games where you kill other characters. I don't feel bad when I play a game like GTA and kill other characters because I know it is not real and I feel the same with lolicon.

Are there actual pedophiles who enjoy lolicon? I am sure there are just as many as real life killers and rapists who enjoy those activities in games and other media. But that does not mean everyone who plays those games would ever do or even want to do those things in real life.

I find real life crimes like murder, rape, and sex with underage people (which is still rape) to be utterly disgusting and reprehensible. I cannot stand the fact that these things happen to people and the pain and suffering they have to endure. But I have killed countless characters in video games and I am not a murderer. So why should I be considered a pedophile for liking lolicon?

 

[polywog]

Sweeping it all under the rug, does no good for anyone.
If people aren't aware of the bad happenings in the world, how can they protect themselves from being victimized?

Disney employees still can't have mustaches because of this guy.


A video game exposing the dangers of hooking up with strangers in a bar. Unsuspecting that they want to drill holes in your head, and make you their sex slave.
17 people died because they never played this game.

 

[Lynn]

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I don't think this comparison works as well as you want it to. Yes, violence in video games is pretty much unavoidable nowadays, you even hunt poor little innocent animals in Minecraft, but you're not exactly buying such games for that specific reason.
For instance, I bought Dishonored a long time ago, appealed by the concept of being a stealthy assassin with powers, but it wasn't exactly the fact that I was allowed to kill litteraly anyone in my way that appealed to me, but rather the gameplay that was surrounding all of the killing business. The satisfaction does not truly come from the fact that you're given the option to murder someone, but rather the original and inventive options you have to do it. The animations and seeing that fictionnal character die is sort of the icing on the cake, what I find more important than the simple killing are the many weapons and powers I'm given.

The comparison works even less with Open-World RPG that advertise an extreme amount of freedom, like GTA. There are many reasons to play GTA, being able to murder anyone you want is merely one of those. It might the main focus for some people, but for the rest of them, it's just an element of the game, just like accomplishing missions, stealing cars or smoking joints (still in GTA, of course) are other, equal elements.

NSFW Games do not exactly follow the same logic. I can think of some NSFW games that do not entirely revolve around sex and try very hard to only present sex as yet another element of the game, but for the vast majority, NSFW games are focused on the sex scenes and specific fetishes.
What do you think is more likely happen, someone playing a game for the featured fetishes or for its gameplay? Now, once more, I'm not saying you can't enjoy gameplay when there's sex involved in the game, but if we're being honest, most of the time we will select games that "pander" to our sexual preferences.
If you're actively looking for a game that features loli characters, then there has to be a reason for that. In the same way, I'm often looking for games that advertise a female lead, or sleeping characters, or customizable outfits. It works for me, so those are the tags I'll check out. On the other end, I'd say it is unlikely you bought GTA only for the sake of killing random people.

Obviously, it has been said many times, just because you play some "hardcore fetish" game does not mean you will automatically think that these things you considered immoral are suddenly fine, and that you're going to act out all of your deep dark fantasies like a brainless slug. You can have attraction and also a moral compass that is working perfectly fine in society's opinion, those things are not exclusive, but I think it would be dishonest to say you're not into BDSM if you're looking for BDSM porn, or that you're not into lolis if you're looking for loli porn.

 

[Dolphin3000]

There is a new trend amongst Patreons who vote for lolicon, rape and bestiality in games. My sister Mia, Lida's Adventures and Katie's corruption are the ones I've played where bestiality and/or rape have been introduced. I also see a number of Lolicon posts. Whilst I'm not the best person to judge, I believe that any form of sex has to be between two (or more) consenting adults (human or alien...)) even in games as posted on F95zone. Abusing defenceless or voiceless beings in my books is just not on, quite repulsive actually.
I'm very careful to read the tags now before DL a game.
Do you think we are getting insensitised to this type of abuse as we are now to graphic violence in movies and games?
Just curious to know if anybody else feels the same way.

I understand a game for adults is supposed to be fantasy and fiction if an adult feels offended or dislike a game content for any reason, he has the option to not play that game, period.
I don't understand when someone wants to impose on anyone else his/her personal point of view about anything.
I firmly believe there should be NO CONTROL on fantasy and fiction. The only thing that should apply is age restriction to access it. Adults are supposed to know the difference between fantasy and reality.