FishTic

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It shouldn't come as a surprise, "devs" always have a horrendous work ethic, 6 months for what are generally small updates is such a common thing in this space. Like sure if you're the person creating everything yourself I'd understand that it takes time but when you hire people to create art and etc then the updates shouldn't take this long.
 

ta576901

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It shouldn't come as a surprise, "devs" always have a horrendous work ethic, 6 months for what are generally small updates is such a common thing in this space. Like sure if you're the person creating everything yourself I'd understand that it takes time but when you hire people to create art and etc then the updates shouldn't take this long.
i hate to be a jackass, i really do. but i just can't imagine what time gets spent into. the writing's great and all but ultimately it's not shakespeare. and for the coding... it's a VN and you're using an engine for that anyway.

i can only imagine man's getting wasted on the daily and then editing a single huge script file with 1000 functions that make no sense and everything is hard coded and stuff. otherwise i'm just like... how?
 

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It shouldn't come as a surprise, "devs" always have a horrendous work ethic, 6 months for what are generally small updates is such a common thing in this space. Like sure if you're the person creating everything yourself I'd understand that it takes time but when you hire people to create art and etc then the updates shouldn't take this long.
i hate to be a jackass, i really do. but i just can't imagine what time gets spent into. the writing's great and all but ultimately it's not shakespeare. and for the coding... it's a VN and you're using an engine for that anyway.

i can only imagine man's getting wasted on the daily and then editing a single huge script file with 1000 functions that make no sense and everything is hard coded and stuff. otherwise i'm just like... how?
Sometimes from what I have observed the devs simply put too much on their plate for what they had considered as a "feasible" enough of a workload for the incoming update. Some devs just need to better pace themselves for the update and reassign non-essential updates for the next sprint in the cycle.

Maybe have a poll or something with the community on what must-have features/elements they want to see incorporated within the upcoming update and then prioritize from there. If it is deemed realistic i.e.

Shoot for the stars but within reason so to speak. Just my $0.02
 

FishTic

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Sometimes from what I have observed the devs simply put too much on their plate for what they had considered as a "feasible" enough of a workload for the incoming update. Some devs just need to better pace themselves for the update and reassign non-essential updates for the next sprint in the cycle.

Maybe have a poll or something with the community on what must-have features/elements they want to see incorporated within the upcoming update and then prioritize from there. If it is deemed realistic i.e.

Shoot for the stars but within reason so to speak. Just my $0.02
It's a visual novel with barely any branching paths, I think it's just a combo of bad work ethic and being fucking retarded with priorities/decision making. Like okay you realise in June that this update is a bit bigger and will take longer to complete than previous updates with an eta around october/november so you get the brilliant idea of creating a shitty sidegame based on a sub exploding so people can get some "content" oh gee what a surprise the sidegame is nowhere to be seen and the main game update is delayed even further and will have some scenes cut from it. I don't know maybe it's from my hate of Koda but I legit despise these fucking "coders" acting as if writing code for a visual novel is like creating a triple a game from scratch, they can suck my dick.
 
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kopv4

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It's a visual novel with barely any branching paths, I think it's just a combo of bad work ethic and being fucking retarded with priorities/decision making. Like okay you realise in June that this update is a bit bigger and will take longer to complete than previous updates with an eta around october/november so you get the brilliant idea of creating a shitty sidegame based on a sub exploding so people can get some "content" oh gee what a surprise the sidegame is nowhere to be seen and the main game update is delayed even further and will have some scenes cut from it. I don't know maybe it's from my hate of Koda but I legit despise these fucking "coders" acting as if writing code for a visual novel is like creating a triple a game from scratch, they can suck my dick.
I really do wonder if you're paying these devs any money to be this pressed. If not, shove your shit back up your anus and keep it moving! :BootyTime:
 

kopv4

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I always pay and I couldn't care less about a couple dollars.
If you really don't care, I wonder why you're getting mad to the point of feeling the need to express your frustration on porn game devs. You'd be much better off not paying people that anger you and drop that hate, but that's for you to decide.
 
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Ruben2003

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If you really don't care, I wonder why you're getting mad to the point of feeling the need to express your frustration on porn game devs. You'd be much better off not paying people that anger you and drop that hate, but that's for you to decide.
If he pays for the product he has every right to be mad when the product doesn't satisfies he's expectations or when the time to release isn't followed or is constantly getting delayed.
 

kopv4

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If he pays for the product he has every right to be mad when the product doesn't satisfies he's expectations or when the time to release isn't followed or is constantly getting delayed.
I never said he doesn't have that right. I'm just questioning him on his nonchalant answer.
 

RoamingZone

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If he pays for the product he has every right to be mad when the product doesn't satisfies he's expectations or when the time to release isn't followed or is constantly getting delayed.
You really need to understand the patreon model honestly you sound dumb saying this type of thing. Patreon has always been a place were people support their favorite content creator via subscription, you are not paying for a finished product. I would understand you if lets say you bought a game on steam and it ended up being so full of problems you are insatisfied with it in this case you have a right to complain about it. Why to you think Patreon doesn't do something about Milkers or people that barely do anything in term of content? Simple it's a subscription page and you can choose if you continue tipping the creator money or not you are not entitled to anything. Of course you can complain but its a wasted effort.

And talking about the game people tend to forget that this is a 3 man team (Coder, Background artist, Main Artist) if you didn't know Kojack has his own patreon were he post his content and the dude is pretty slow when pumping up drawings (Normally one drawing per month) so knowing this and knowing this dev from his other games It really doesn't surprise me at all.
 

stafarn

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It's a visual novel with barely any branching paths, I think it's just a combo of bad work ethic and being fucking retarded with priorities/decision making. Like okay you realise in June that this update is a bit bigger and will take longer to complete than previous updates with an eta around october/november so you get the brilliant idea of creating a shitty sidegame based on a sub exploding so people can get some "content" oh gee what a surprise the sidegame is nowhere to be seen and the main game update is delayed even further and will have some scenes cut from it. I don't know maybe it's from my hate of Koda but I legit despise these fucking "coders" acting as if writing code for a visual novel is like creating a triple a game from scratch, they can suck my dick.
you took the words right out of my mouth man
 
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FishTic

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If you really don't care, I wonder why you're getting mad to the point of feeling the need to express your frustration on porn game devs. You'd be much better off not paying people that anger you and drop that hate, but that's for you to decide.
Yeah you can wonder all you want, I'm not gonna argue with you.
 

FishTic

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Not trying to argue, just curious about your state of mind. Don't reply if you're not looking for conversation.
Okay I'm willing to have a conversation not about my state of mind though, I'd much rather you give your thoughts on this dev process. Create bigger update > Will take longer than normal updates > Create shitty side game to give people content while they wait > Cut scenes from main game update > Scrap side game > Delay main game. Thoughts about that? I think it's a far more interesting topic than you pretending to care about my state of mind.
 
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