VN Ren'Py Dog Days of Summer [Rework v0.3.1b] [BlackWeb Games]

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foxmcloud23

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Free Pass, Glamor, and even to some extent Red Strings that went from GGGB female only with a trickle of lesbian content by the end to now sharing with a male MC and the Lesbian content is there it still seems more like just an after thought than an actual path in the game.
And while Lisa, Wife and Mother, and Project Myriam are still female protags, the devs started out strong in the lesbian camp and have now shifted almost entirely into male centric content. Project Myriam even removed the route with the daughter and had the gaul to say that it was never intended in the first place.
Games like Anna Exciting Affection and Jessica O'neil Hard New I had hopes for and what there is is nice but the Lesbian content seems to be more of an after thought than any actual main path content.
I wasn't even in love with Free Pass but it was something.
I mean other than this game I can't think of a single, high quality lesbian game.
Even other games that I enjoy like Bad Memories and Mythos are clearly Male Protag games where the Dev has gone back and added a female protag option. In Bad Memories there have been a bunch of times were the male image is even used instead of the female image. And the story and context makes the most sense from a male prospective even if I will always play as a female.
The Lost Chapters seems to be a pure lesbian game with small amounts of futa here and there.
 

Romenjack

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The Lost Chapters seems to be a pure lesbian game with small amounts of futa here and there.
Yeah there are games out there and this game is okay. I've tried playing it and no shame on the dev or anything, and this is just my very subjective opinion but I just couldn't get into it. The graphics are okay but there is a lot of fuzz in the renders which can get really distracting for me and while several of the models are great some of the others just look really weird to me. And the posing can be a bit janky like the Dev didn't go over it and fine tune the scene because it was only going to be up for a moment and figured most people probably wouldn't even notice anyway.
That is actually one of the things I do like about MLS (even though it seems to be lacking in terms of gameplay and I'm not thrilled were it is going in terms of futa) but even scenes that are only up for one line of text seems to have had a lot of work put into it. I might have been the only one during the dinner scene stopping and being impressed by how they actually look like they are holding their forks. Or the horns in SC Short
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That picture was only there for a second or two but, I am assuming, it took rendering the image out twice to get that reflection. And if you break down other things in this image it shows attention to detail. The fact that the earrings hang correctly likely means they went and posed them. The arm not clipping through the bangles but resting on top of them (the bangles not just hovering around the wrist like in a lot of games). The fact that the purse is placed to hide the hand likely to either cover up clipping or just so they wouldn't have to worry about it.

Sorry I don't mean this to be a sucking off Blackweb here and they are certainly not perfect. I mean what even is that giant white spot? one of the scene lights maybe? And why is the world gray outside the window?
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But credit where credit is due. And it actually makes me a little frustrated that there aren't more games that do this. Yes I know that some do but very few and fewer still focuses on lesbian content.

Sorry Rant over
 
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Romenjack

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The Lost Chapters seems to be a pure lesbian game with small amounts of futa here and there.
Bright Past I will say is very good if not needlessly grindy and very easy to get lost in. But actually one of my favorite games and I feel bad I didn't think of it before.
 
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bacienvu88

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Free Pass, Glamor, and even to some extent Red Strings that went from GGGB female only with a trickle of lesbian content by the end to now sharing with a male MC and the Lesbian content is there it still seems more like just an after thought than an actual path in the game.
And while Lisa, Wife and Mother, and Project Myriam are still female protags, the devs started out strong in the lesbian camp and have now shifted almost entirely into male centric content. Project Myriam even removed the route with the daughter and had the gaul to say that it was never intended in the first place.
Games like Anna Exciting Affection and Jessica O'neil Hard New I had hopes for and what there is is nice but the Lesbian content seems to be more of an after thought than any actual main path content.
I wasn't even in love with Free Pass but it was something.
I mean other than this game I can't think of a single, high quality lesbian game.
Even other games that I enjoy like Bad Memories and Mythos are clearly Male Protag games where the Dev has gone back and added a female protag option. In Bad Memories there have been a bunch of times were the male image is even used instead of the female image. And the story and context makes the most sense from a male prospective even if I will always play as a female.
Casual Desires, Erisa's Summer, Toro7, Champions of Liberty Institute of Training are all good female protag games.
Also, I think the female protag is the canon one in Bad Memories. Don't think it is an afterthought.

But yes, good female/lesbian games are all too rare. :(
 

Romenjack

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Casual Desires, Erisa's Summer, Toro7, Champions of Liberty Institute of Training are all good female protag games.
Also, I think the female protag is the canon one in Bad Memories. Don't think it is an afterthought.

But yes, good female/lesbian games are all too rare. :(
Let me preference this by saying this is banter as tone and intention can be hard to get across and I don't want you or anyone else to think I am being mean, angary or combative. And I say this in the spirit of having a fun back and forth discussion and not because I am trying to start a fight and if you think this comment rude or mean spirited let me know and I will delete it. Also none of these games are bad and I am not trying to say that you are wrong for liking them. I am simply giving my reason as to why I think these games may or may not fall short and to keep it on topic of this thread so it doesn't get purged by the mods :KEK:, why I do think DDoS is the better game.

So first I'll just say I haven't play Toro7 yet as I wanted to wait for a few updates before I played it because it does actually look very good and it will probably be easier to wait for a game I haven't played than being anxious waiting for the next update.

Casual Desires if fine. The renders are good but there just isn't really anything about it that hooks me and at least the last time I played it the actual lesbian content was kinda just girls messing around, nothing real serious, and as is my complaint with so many games, there is still a strong emphasis on straight content that while it can be skipped it feels like just that, you skipped content. In DDoS I never feel like I am skipping content. No I don't get to see all the sex scenes in one go but not because I skipped something. I make choices and then things play out based on those choices. Turning down a sex scene doesn't skip a sex scene it usually opens up another sex scene down the line.

Liberty Institute is fine and one I do keep up with. But the game just feels so rough to me. From the posing that always seems off and the sex scenes that never feel passionate or erotic to me at least. Like I said I like the, but I will freely admit if the game was exactly the same but a Male MC I wouldn't touch it.

Bad Memories I have to push back on. But first let me reiterate I really like Bad Memories and it is one of the few games (other than DDoS) that I took my time to read and didn't just click through. But like I pointed out before, there were several times that the male protag image was used during the female route, suggesting the Dev coded the scene and story with the Male then went back and made the changes for the Female. But hey maybe there is another explanation for that simple mistake. Okay fair enough. Forgive me because I am terrible with names the sister's friend wears a shirt that says Daddy's girl and if you are a Male she will call you Daddy. If you are a girl she will call you Mommy but will still wear a Daddy's girl shirt. I know the Dev has the skills needed to make a new mesh for the shirt that says Mommy's girl but doesn't because that would be more time and effort so they used the default option and just left it. But I think the biggest indication is how the non romance character interact with the mane character. You are a very attractive girl in the game and yet not a single guy really makes a move on you despite that being in their personality to do so and girls just assume that you are attracted to them like you are a normal guy who likes girls. Everyone for all intents and purposes treats you like a guy they just use female pronouns when addressing you(almost like the Dev did a find and replace word sort of thing) minus a few throwaway lines. In fact the dialogue is virtually identical in both play throughs. And you might say that I am expecting too much from a Dev to change the dialogue depending on the gender and maybe I am but then the Dev will instinctively wright the Dialogue for one gender then go back and make tweaks to fit the other.

and as for Erisa's Summer I actually don't like that game. I played it once and couldn't even finish the build. The facial expressions go beyond creepy. The models are okay at best and the writing and dialogue is really rough.
 
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bacienvu88

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I don't think so. All the females are suddenly lesbians? or at least bi? And in the flashback it's less believable that a girl with a "normal" body (she's not really muscular) can fight a bunch of men
That is the impression I've got from what the dev has said in the thread. I have rather mixed feelings about the game overall. MC is too much of a creep. But the LI:s are so adorable. :)
So first I'll just say I haven't play Toro7 yet as I wanted to wait for a few updates before I played it because it does actually look very good and it will probably be easier to wait for a game I haven't played than being anxious waiting for the next update.
It is by tlaero & mortze. They always make good games.
 

BlackWebGames

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Careful BWG, you need to make your games very very good or else this dude here were saying your game trash or something else he already did that to the other game developer
That is both an unnecessary statement and an untrue one. I have been watching the Free Pass thread since it was brought to my attention. And while some of the criticisms this person said may have come across as overly harsh and they probably said a lot more than was needed, they were never mean or spiteful in what they said (giving the charity that English is not their native language and thus their wording can be a little overly blunt). They never said the game was trash or even that they hated. They merely voiced a reasonable frustration at a Dev that they felt had betrayed the fans in an attempt to court a different fan base by ditching the fan base they already had established and built over more than a year.

I can only hope that my fan base loves my games enough to be half as passionate about it. I always welcome feedback be it good or bad, I only ask that people remain respectful about it. And I hope I am mature enough to recognize at that time the difference between people that never cared about my game complaining about things that have nothing to do with my game over the people that truly love my work and are not wanting a perfect game for themselves but instead are wanting the best version of the game as a whole.
 

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That is both an unnecessary statement and an untrue one. I have been watching the Free Pass thread since it was brought to my attention. And while some of the criticisms this person said may have come across as overly harsh and they probably said a lot more than was needed, they were never mean or spiteful in what they said (giving the charity that English is not their native language and thus their wording can be a little overly blunt). They never said the game was trash or even that they hated. They merely voiced a reasonable frustration at a Dev that they felt had betrayed the fans in an attempt to court a different fan base by ditching the fan base they already had established and built over more than a year.

I can only hope that my fan base loves my games enough to be half as passionate about it. I always welcome feedback be it good or bad, I only ask that people remain respectful about it. And I hope I am mature enough to recognize at that time the difference between people that never cared about my game complaining about things that have nothing to do with my game over the people that truly love my work and are not wanting a perfect game for themselves but instead are wanting the best version of the game as a whole.
Don’t worry BWG your games already a perfect I’m just hope that the aunt romance can came as soon as possible cause I can’t wait keep up the good work BWG!❤
 
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Kazanovaromeo

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That is both an unnecessary statement and an untrue one. I have been watching the Free Pass thread since it was brought to my attention. And while some of the criticisms this person said may have come across as overly harsh and they probably said a lot more than was needed, they were never mean or spiteful in what they said (giving the charity that English is not their native language and thus their wording can be a little overly blunt). They never said the game was trash or even that they hated. They merely voiced a reasonable frustration at a Dev that they felt had betrayed the fans in an attempt to court a different fan base by ditching the fan base they already had established and built over more than a year.

I can only hope that my fan base loves my games enough to be half as passionate about it. I always welcome feedback be it good or bad, I only ask that people remain respectful about it. And I hope I am mature enough to recognize at that time the difference between people that never cared about my game complaining about things that have nothing to do with my game over the people that truly love my work and are not wanting a perfect game for themselves but instead are wanting the best version of the game as a whole.
Thank you very much for being a reasonable FAIR person, I promise After Choice to be silent and shutup and I will keep my promiss, So I will tell you exactly what I tell her:
why to change our beloved story, why you change my beloved Yoon why?
The Old Original storyline is better than the new one because I love Yoon not bring male character protagonist without a reason.
My old beloved Yoon is more beautiful than the new one , and the new Yoon is older and less beautiful and I prove it by pictures
I told her that the old original story is one of the BEST adult games EVER, and My beloved Yoon is one of the most beautiful girl Ever.
But when she said " even if NO ONE like my reboot I will continue it for myself and my wife love it" so, I told her it is up to you and I have the right to ignor what is not suitable for me and delete it.
and Please correct me if i am wrong :
Mr. Kazuya1991 Said to her in one post " Just make what you see best for you, and your fans either SUCK it or leave it" , and After Choice agree on it , So do you think this kind of words consider a support to her or just drive her to be alone.
I am kind of person who LIVE inside the story and Love its characters LITERALLY and again do you think I will love your game if it is NOT suitable for me.
and I do not see what in my all posts to her is insulting or bad words or trash as he said or as she think , and please check all my posts and show to me that I am wrong.
and Please please tell me did any one didnot notice the meaning of my profile picture on the left hand side, and if you see it is appropriate to show a picture of another game here , and you do not mind, I will show you my desktop screen from the 1st day of playng Free Pass.
Thank you very much again, and thank you for listening, and I hope NOT to be forced to publish this post in about other 8 or 9 games I just join in.
 
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Kazanovaromeo

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Dear BlackWebGames
Do you know why I will be EVER in Love for your BOTH 2 games, because one post said:
"Hey BlackWebGames just curious. You don't like have any intention to IDK start the game over and make the MC male do you"
and you said :

Ah no?
and that is the best for me, thank you, and by the way , your both games are the real reason for me to love Lesbian stories.
 
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I have one issue that i noticed with the android port, or maybe it was just because of my tablet model, but the resolution was off, I use a Samsung Galaxy Tab A7, and some of the text is cut off.

Here's a screenshot.
 

BlackWebGames

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I have one issue that i noticed with the android port, or maybe it was just because of my tablet model, but the resolution was off, I use a Samsung Galaxy Tab A7, and some of the text is cut off.

Here's a screenshot.
Sadly I do not do the Android port so I can't do anything but call on estrada777 for help
 
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