But, come on. Don't you want to know?Nah, that would mean being ignorant of this awesome game until it is done. That would be no fun. Also would miss all the fun speculation.
Some pages back.
Of course I want to know. But I have to tell myself something to not go mad.But, come on. Don't you want to know?
Are you referring to Mom being MLS neighbors daughter? Doubt it, since Vivian's mom takes dad's sister as lover. So either Amelia is Vivian's aunt or Michelle and Amelia loses neighbors daughter later. Neither sounds particularly fun.By the way, what do you think of my crazy theories?
No, you need to go further back. There's like wall of text I posted. Actually several.Of course I want to know. But I have to tell myself something to not go mad.
Are you referring to Mom being MLS neighbors daughter? Doubt it, since Vivian's mom takes dad's sister as lover. So either Amelia is Vivian's aunt or Michelle and Amelia loses neighbors daughter later. Neither sounds particularly fun.
It's probably dad's sister. That is who mother was involved with before mom hooked up with father. Pretty sure mom mentioned that to daughter.Yep, I wrote about it some time ago.
So, this is now a game of lesbimon?
Gotta catch them all!
But yeah, I'm for mom + auntie.
I kinda assumed aunt was mom's sister. Because double incest.
What happened to father's harem? I guess the same as to Alexander's empire after his death. It fell apart. With some members taking more money and possibly partners, some less.
If I've understood the lore correctly, New Amsterdam is more independent than the rest of America in this timeline. Sort of like Hong Kong before Chinese takeover. And being more independent should serve Tara's purposes since it is likely easier to influence politicians in the city than in the country.
When talking to Tara about Mom in the salon, Tara is very well aware of Mom's raging libido at least. The question is if Tara has some deeper plan or if she just wants to have fun.
Viv definitely dated guys in the past. The game doesn't say much about how long lived those relationships were. Mostly says she has had several boyfriends, she usually don't have sex with them for a few dates and all previous boyfriends were lousy at cunnilingus.
I don't think just sex appeal / awakened sexuality is enough to explain Ms Harper's interest in Vivian. Especially not on the dom route. It's like Viv suddenly commands a presence that wasn't there before.
I don't remember when she lost her virginity but you are correct about her being straight and not having the slightest inkling towards lesbian until corrupted by Tara's influence.
The only virginity we have heard anything about in the game so far is from Katherine. And while we don't get much, that seem to have been a pretty bad with an older man, implied she was very young at the time.
Sorry my mistakes, that infromation wasnt in the game after all:
That would make sense as for Tara's choice of location.All in all pretty plausible theories. But hopefully we are in for a few surprises as well.
If I've understood the lore correctly, New Amsterdam is more independent than the rest of America in this timeline. Sort of like Hong Kong before Chinese takeover. And being more independent should serve Tara's purposes since it is likely easier to influence politicians in the city than in the country.
When talking to Tara about Mom in the salon, Tara is very well aware of Mom's raging libido at least. The question is if Tara has some deeper plan or if she just wants to have fun.
Maybe Viv's dad just was someone Tara needs to impregnate women so all those lovely lesbians can be born.
Viv definitely dated guys in the past. The game doesn't say much about how long lived those relationships were. Mostly says she has had several boyfriends, she usually don't have sex with them for a few dates and all previous boyfriends were lousy at cunnilingus.
I don't think just sex appeal / awakened sexuality is enough to explain Ms Harper's interest in Vivian. Especially not on the dom route. It's like Viv suddenly commands a presence that wasn't there before.
Also remember that Mom has lusted after Vivian long before Tara kissed Viv. So there are other things in play as well.
It has bugged me since I read it. Because if Tara could simply make someone gay, why not just turning any woman in the city? Why there is the need to be born in the city? You know, she decided consciously she wants to be more assertive. Her subconsciousnes might have done the trick, if she firmly implanted the idea in her mind. Or did just Viv's transformation pique her curiosity? We shall piece this mystery together.
I was thinking more females ruling the city/world combined with lesbian sexual utopia.That would make sense as for Tara's choice of location.
Tara is old, no OLD. You can ask yourself how long has she been long influencing New Amsterdam, decades, hundred years, more? I think if she had a plan she would have probably enacted it a long time ago. I guess she just wants to have fun. But what would that plan be, anyway? Creating a kingdom for herself? A sort of sexual utopia? Her own little heaven on earth?
I find it likely that Boone has some sort of special meaning. But it may not be relevant to the story.Is the name a give away? Boone, boon?
I don't think Viv is bisexual. She thinks this in a conversation with Shanna on Mom party path and if you select the romance goal:What if Viv is bisexual?
I think it is a bit of both. My take is that Tara is enabling Viv to consciously be the person she wants to be. And then Tara watches with amusement how Viv progresses. Tara always seem to know exactly what Viv wants though, so it is possible she just changes Viv to be what she wants to be.Has Tara just awakened something that was already present within Viv, or did the spell not just make her more alluring but more assertive as well?
I have been replaying/rereading some of the conversations with Ms. Harper. I don't find where she indicates she have met Tara. What have I missed?I assume from her own words, that Ms Harper met Tara, fell in love and Tara broke her heart. Can she smell Tara on Viv?
Soon we shall piece everything together and we won't need to wait for next update.Mom is a horny woman who spent too much time under her husband's influence.
Thank you guys for your research.
I don't think Tara wants to rule New Amsterdam openly. Otherwise she would have already done it. My take is that she considers it her personal playground.I was thinking more females ruling the city/world combined with lesbian sexual utopia.
I find it likely that Boone has some sort of special meaning. But it may not be relevant to the story.
I don't think Viv is bisexual. She thinks this in a conversation with Shanna on Mom party path and if you select the romance goal:
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I think it is a bit of both. My take is that Tara is enabling Viv to consciously be the person she wants to be. And then Tara watches with amusement how Viv progresses. Tara always seem to know exactly what Viv wants though, so it is possible she just changes Viv to be what she wants to be.
I have been replaying/rereading some of the conversations with Ms. Harper. I don't find where she indicates she have met Tara. What have I missed?
Soon we shall piece everything together and we won't need to wait for next update.
Or something along those lines. It didn't occur to me at first, but now it aligns with my theory that Tara knew Ms Harper. It just shows how much detail is really in the game and how much work must have been put into it.
I never thought about M.S Harper's connection to Tara seriously except now and the other one Tara is talking about is Katherine, "If Vivian is a kitty then Katherine is a panther" As Tara way to say it
Now who would be hung from the ceiling and whailing like a dog while being whipped? Asking for mercy, but secretly begging for more? Ms Harper, would you come forward, please.
Yes, it is indeed Katherine. During the drinking bout. When she ropes Viv and Des into answering her questions. And adds that she won't even mention the supernatural things happening in the city.I never thought about M.S Harper's connection to Tara seriously except now and the other one Tara is talking about is Katherine, "If Vivian is a kitty then Katherine is a panther" As Tara way to say it
(You get the Katherine option with Tara at the salon if Des doesn't go to the party and you meet Katherine with Des at the club)
I can't remember if it was Katherine who mentions to Vivian that there are an unusually high number of lesbians in the city.
Both drinking with her and going to the party.
It changes Viv's thought in a number of places, but other than that has no effects that I've seen.I don't think Tara wants to rule New Amsterdam openly. Otherwise she would have already done it. My take is that she considers it her personal playground.
I only picked "get a job" once and then "have fun" afterwards. It does have an effect after all?
Oh right. I had forgotten about that. But Harper never says that demons are real. The actual phrasing is that Harper thinks the girl describes it as if it was real.
Now I've read the discussion with Tara in the salon again. And I don't see anything that hints that Tara knows her in more ways than she knows all the women in Viv's life. The closest I come is the question "Is she like you?" but that reveals more about the true nature of Tara than about Harper. And in "Can I make her mine?" it is only about Viv vs Harper from what I am reading.
This one seems more on the money, but it still ambiguous if Tara is talking from personal experience or not. Specifically the scene is from the salon as well, but they are talking about the artist that created that painting in the gallery.Maybe she just wanted to see Viv try. You know, for shits and giggles. Now I remember that at the first meeting with Tara in the gallery, when Viv asks about that painting with vivid colors, Tara tells her that someone with a lot of passion had painted it. When asked whether Tara knew the painter, she responds that the author was better with words.
But you always have to do experiments and make observations to confirm a theory.
You can get it even if you go to the party. If I remember correctly what is needed is to not let Des sleep over at Viv's place and either help Eva cheat or blow her off (that is no go to Eva's dorm and help her write the essay).
