VN Ren'Py Dog Days of Summer [v0.5.1] [BlackWeb Games]

[Cygnus X-1]

I just took a look at one of the scripts and if we consider Katherine's line "They say that all girls in this city are bi or just straight up lesbian." like I have considered in my theory about Tara and the city, the discussion about Des's orientation becomes moot. I think she is bisexual then. And not just that. Des's line about rumors about the city "That only women are born in this city and they are all exceptionally beautiful." is in a a different paragraph. Shit. That would mean Tara could turn people gay regardless of a my previous theory, setting their sex and orientation during their prenatal development. That doesn't mean that she doesn't do it, ensuring that in one fell swoop a beautiful and gay (or bi) girl is born. Just that she could turn adults gay too. Boom! My head is starting to hurt.
That doesn't entirely rule out that Des could have been straight but a bit curious before. But it's unlikely due to being impractical from Tara's hypothetical perspective.

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If we combine it with my theory about the nature of Tara's magic, the "magic radiation" theory, the city is irradiated by magic. Magic even may cover it like fallout. And simply living in it could turn a woman gay in time. Viv may not had been born gay, but turned gay since she lived long enough in New Amsterdam. Same with the other girls.

I think we are close to cracking the code guys.

 

[Alley_Cat]

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I think we are close to cracking the code guys.

It's curious that BlackWebGames has been unusually absent recently to confirm or deny too ...

 

[BlackWebGames]

It's curious that BlackWebGames has been unusually absent recently to confirm or deny too ...

I will never confirm or deny something that has not already been explained in game. Other than that, speculate all you want.

 

[Alley_Cat]

I will never confirm or deny something that has not already been explained in game. Other than that, speculate all you want.

Wow that was a quick response. I wasn't sure how busy you were at the moment, since occasionally you do comment every now and again to confirm what is in the game so far. And what we are still yet to discover.

I guess since I'm getting invested in the game now, sorting through what we know and what we're guessing is a thing for me to do now. And clarifications from the dev are always appreciated.

Meanwhile, having fun in the AWAM thread since the event L&P is working on is the concert in the biker bar, and the latest teaser he's asked not to post here, which likely is only the MC and her sister dancing, and getting ogled by the old bikers. And not even sexy dancing, since the event isn't focused on the sister.

L&P has threatened not to release "teasers" anymore if it gets leaked here, so I mentioned the bar event here is better anyway.

 

[Cygnus X-1]

Let me push my magic theory further. Spells can be cast with different amounts of energy. Just as different spells. Which if I continue my nuclear analogy could mean a different "half-life", in this case a varying length of time the spell lingers in the environment until it dissipates. Like radioactive isotopes have their own half-life and different effects on living tissue. Plus the amount of the isotope present gives the strength of the effect. Like with the alpha, beta and gamma radiation resulting from decay of said isotopes.
Plus if Tara indeed emlpoys other demons, they can be carrying out her orders and casting spells too in addition of serving as informants.
We could have an entire menagerie of magical creatures. Demons, pixies and other fairies, and so on. Maybe even human mages. Think World of darkness which Vampire: the masquerade is a part of.

 

[bacienvu88]

I will never confirm or deny something that has not already been explained in game. Other than that, speculate all you want.

Now I'm imagining that you look on on all the speculation and think "lets throw in a few red herrings in next update to throw off the scent".

 

[bacienvu88]

I haven't tried Eva's route yet, but the walkthrough says to have a romantic relationship with Eva, Viv must refuse to have sex with her this early in their relationship.

You don't need a walkthrough for that info. Just ask Tara. It is also a bit funny, Tara recommends not engaging too much with Des either or she will become too clingy. Seriously, Tara is the best hint system ever.

Regarding Des's sexuality. One tidbit I didn't see you mention is that after every time Des has a breakup with a boyfriend she swears that she never want anything to do with men again. Of course all previous times she doesn't have a supercharged Viv to take care of her instead.

About Mom being a tough nut to crack. The problem is to get Mom to admit there are any romantic feelings between them. She only acknowledges motherly and sexual feelings. Maybe she is afraid of romance? Maybe we need to crack her through Eve? Is it better to reject her or not is also a question. Unfortunately, Tara doesn't say too much about Mom to help us.

 

[bacienvu88]

Think World of darkness which Vampire: the masquerade is a part of.

If you want a VN inspired by VtM, there is Rebirth.

 

[Cygnus X-1]

Now I'm imagining that you look on on all the speculation and think "lets throw in a few red herrings in next update to throw off the scent".

I can't wait to be proven wrong in the next updates. Like when people believed the Earth is the centre of the universe and planets, sun and all the stars revolve around Earth.

 

[Cygnus X-1]

You don't need a walkthrough for that info. Just ask Tara. It is also a bit funny, Tara recommends not engaging too much with Des either or she will become too clingy. Seriously, Tara is the best hint system ever.

Regarding Des's sexuality. One tidbit I didn't see you mention is that after every time Des has a breakup with a boyfriend she swears that she never want anything to do with men again. Of course all previous times she doesn't have a supercharged Viv to take care of her instead.

About Mom being a tough nut to crack. The problem is to get Mom to admit there are any romantic feelings between them. She only acknowledges motherly and sexual feelings. Maybe she is afraid of romance? Maybe we need to crack her through Eve? Is it better to reject her or not is also a question. Unfortunately, Tara doesn't say too much about Mom to help us.

I wrote that in a previous post. That Tara recommends not to spoil Des too much and neither to ignore he too much, or she will leave Viv.
I didn't go as far as writing that Des swears to be done with guys after each break up, but I mentioned that every time she breaks up, she gets depressed and then repeats the cycle.
I think Eva is just another doll for mom to play with. Even if she treats her as Viv's sister that doesn't mean there are any romantic feelings involved. Same case as Viv.
I don't think flowers and chocolate will do the trick. Or anything you could buy her. At least not the usual sort.

 

[Cygnus X-1]

Maybe like Crimsonfiend76 wrote, mom needs to realize she has a chance for a deeper, more meaningful relationship, instead of her usual affairs. Especially as she is getting older, as she points out to Viv. And that she had enough time to fool around.
I'm not sure what action is romantic enough for mom. Perhaps if Viv set herself on fire holding a plate saying "I love you mom."
What if mom is still in love with her husband and / or remains faithful to him? Thus she doesn't allow herself to fall in love again. She still wears the ring, doesn't she? Maybe if she saw something in Viv that reminded her of her husband. Like she considered it as him "passing the torch" to Viv to take care of her. Finally allowing herself to love again.
But I would prefer if mom loved Viv for herself not because Viv reminds her of someone else.

 

[Sorrow85]

I can't remember if Mother was also marked as LI?
Eva and Des were but I think there may be a deeper relationship with the mother. and how about Harper's sugar mommy route, LI route?

Edit:
BTW I found Zoey Raven's comment regarding why (s)he abandoned the DDoS WT.

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I have to say that I understand him, even after a year, I'm not sure I've seen everything

 

[Cygnus X-1]

I can't remember if Mother was also marked as LI?
Eva and Des were but I think there may be a deeper relationship with the mother. and how about Harper's sugar mommy route, LI route?

Harper's sugar momma route is yet to be developed.
Mom is a fan favorite among several users here.
Mom does have several paths available. Mom and Viv open relationship, mom and Viv attempt at romance, mom and Viv hopeless attempt at a monogamous relationship, mom and Viv and Eva. Viv can either spend time with mom at home or go with her to the party. Even take Eva with them.

 

[Cygnus X-1]

You can read about our frustration over the seemingly impossible task to win her heart. Sorry, but we have spent here overall entire pages lamenting over their relationship. I consider her the "ultimate prize" you can get in DDoS, partly because how hard she seems to win over. Not just sex, mind you.
I even have a crazy theory how to accomplish that I'm going to share.

 

[Sorrow85]

Mom and Viv open relationship, mom and Viv attempt at romance,

So there is a romance path already? I got nothing but an "open" relationship thing(At home, hotel) or I miss something.
Damn I hate Saturday/party day because it can shape the story in so many different directions

 

[Cygnus X-1]

At the hotel in the morning she asks you if you accept her offer to have an open relationship with her. You can just roll with it, say you want her to be your girlfriend and even that you want to have her for yourself. If you say girlfriend she says no, that your relationship is already special as you are mother and daughter. You respond that you will win her heart and to demonstrate you refuse to have sex at the moment. After that it's the same as if you picked open relationship. For now at least. If you choose the option that you want her for yourself, she is strongly against it, argumenting that you are young and shouldn't tie yourself down to an old woman, then says she has her own life and relationships she doesn't want to break but if you insist, she reluctantly accepts but under the condition that you don't sleep with anyone else the entire summer and she will dial down her affairs. Not completely putting a stop to them though. After that it continues like usual for the next few scenes. I admit I didn't follow this path to the end of the available content as I was pissed at her.

 

[Sorrow85]

if you insist, she reluctantly accepts but under the condition that you don't sleep with anyone else the entire summer and she will dial down her affairs.

I had forgotten this but I havent played the mom route enough.. I guess and now there is Eva+Vivian+Mom path.

Let's see what future updates will bring us and I wait that aunt meeting and how it goes(Its only mom reject path or other as well)

 

[GPsarakis]

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[neennah]

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If its the scene I think it is, it's on either path. You need to either not go to party or go to party with Mom, but in both cases turn down her offer of sex.

You'll then get the offer of a proper date and it happens during that.

 

[Cygnus X-1]

Ladies and gentlemen, buckle you seat belts!
We are going for a ride!

To help us win mom's heart, since we are in a magical setting, we could go with the obvious - a love potion. We could even go with the cliché "deal with the devil" or "sells her soul to the devil" in exchange for the love potion.
If we want to be more creative, when Viv asks Tara for a key to mom's heart, Tara as a final favor (no more help after that) transports them inside mom's head. Here they see mom's memories, as faded pictures, glass shards with moving pictures, maybe holograms, flying all around them. BWG could go wild with effects and filters to create surreal, dreamlike scenes. Among the swirling pictures something catches Viv's eye, like a gold nugget burried in sand on a gold diggers pan.
Or. Tara transports them into the past. Where they witness several moments from mom's life. They can only observe, not interact. Again some filters could help distinguish these scenes from the usual game scenes to give the impression of ghosts moving around the real world. Viv finds the solution is simple, maybe obvious and was right in front of her the whole time. That would be quite the wtf moment.
As the parting shot in mom's ending we'd get a picture of an old Viv and a young mom. Showing us that she was the one Tara helped, not her husband. Also explaining mom's reluctance to engage in romantic relationships. Because as with vampires, they don't age, but their human lovers grow old and die. Leading to some of them to refuse a human partner.

Des and Viv's romance ending could be similar. Viv and Des now old and grey, holding hands, look back to the dog days of a summer that brought them together.
For a less soppy rolleyes: ), but still a good ending. Opening night of an exhibition of Desiree's art. Lobby of a famous art gallery, filled with reporters, flashes going off, as on the red carpet Des appears accompanied by her partner Viv. Both beaming and beautiful.
In the naughty ending Viv asks Tara as a final wish to have a baby with Des. Tara gives her a magic dildo activated by a drop of blood from each partner. Which also locks it down to the two people so noone else can use it's special function. For everybody else it's just a common dildo. It could work as a magic item with the blood only activating and unlocking it or as "fuel" in a highly advanced device. Spitting on it or licking it could technically work too. But blood is more romantic and demonic too.
In the ending scene a pregnant, smiling Des sits with a child in her arms and several others run around the room and a proud Viv looks on. Yes, in this ending Viv basically "breeds" her kitty.

And for a something completely different, an absurd ending.
Viv becomes a demon. Leaves the city, taking her girls with her (those she is in a relationship with) to build her own nest / hive. Forming either a happy (polyamorous) family or a harem of her pets depending on your choices. "Long live the queen!"