VN Ren'Py Dog Days of Summer [v0.5.1] [BlackWeb Games]

[bcool]

optional yes but don't force your taste on others

I am not forcing anyone ... this is an open discussion, you may have your taste and I may have mine, and
the dev will do ...... whatever he wants

 

[Sorrow85]

Damn, wrong words I chose or order.
I meant that if male sex Vivian does then it will do it by force, the game does not force male sex if you make right choose.

Sometimes I think about that and write another(even my natiive language) english is sometimes so damn hard for myself.
Reading is much easier when you realize just Point than when you wrote that others understand your Point.

One thing that seems essential since the routes seem pretty fully developed and exclusive is an option to name save files, it could become a mess trying to remember what you were doing.

I don’t even remember what saves was my route anymore because when i tried to help others last week this game so i found many interesting routes what to continue.

Maybe I'll wait until Monday and start over... again.

 

[Lupin the 3rd]

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Here is finally a updated Android Version.

 

[Robert Soos]

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Here is finally a updated Android Version.

Why is it only 69 MB? That doesn't seem right...

 

[Power Broker]

Am I missing something or is it not possible to invite Eva to the party and go shopping with her after you had sex with her? If so I would like to see the option in that path, too, because you know: inviting somebody whom you have fucked should be more likely than inviting somebody you just barely know.

It's not forced, you pick between the blowjob and eating the teachers pussy.
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All male stuff will be optional the dev has clarified that, none of it will be forced. That's pretty much a game killer in a lesbian themed game.

Agreed, however I would like to have that option at the start of the game (as in "enable straight content" or "lesbian only"), because having my character avoid Ms. Harpers task is also a mood killer: a blackmailed sub shouldn't have the choice whether she licks pussy or sucks dicks. And I fancy storylines where lesbians are forced to suck dicks or straight girls forced to lick pussies, so the answers of my Vivian to these questions contradict what I want to see.

 

[MrLakes1579]

Oh the male interactions are optional? Good. Wished there would be no male interactions at all, but yeah. Fortunaly it is avoidable. But please a Android Version.

Eh, when I play games like this I like roleplaying as an actual lesbian, and it's kind of hot getting the option to actually turn cock down. Also seems like it might fix the one issue I had with Good Girl Gone Bad, and it can actually acknowledge the fact that you're slowly developing an actual lesbian identity for yourself.

 

[afterlights]

When I got to the gloryhole scene I just went back played with my options. (I'm a dude but don't really like dick in my porn.) Viv not sucking the dick doesn't seem to prevent the storyline from continuing on-course, except with her relationship to Ms. Harper. But Tara at the salon gives crucial insight how to deal with her.

 

[SecretDesire]

Wt is pretty hard to understand ... i realy don't get what or which i chose wrong ...

 

[Avaron1974]

So wont lie, first time I read this I thought you were saying you liked Evaline but then the shopping trip happened and now you dont. I had to read it again to understand what you meant.
Glad you enjoyed it. And don't worry your patience with Evaline will soon be rewarded if you already aren't dating her now after this update.

I loved it, I thought it was done really well.

Went against everything she knows about people and completely threw her off, it was nice to see her armour break for a second.

We're dating in one save when Viv agree's to an open relationship but I have another where she wanted to be exclusive and Eve said she needed time to think and left the shop.

a blackmailed sub shouldn't have the choice whether she licks pussy or sucks dicks. And I fancy storylines where lesbians are forced to suck dicks or straight girls forced to lick pussies, so the answers of my Vivian to these questions contradict what I want to see.

I get you have your tastes but the dev has made it clear that cock will never be forced, it's always going to be optional and that's how it needs to be.

Everyone has their own tastes but this is aimed at people that like lesbian content and actual lesbians.

As a lesbian i'm not going to play something with forced cock content. You have the option to see it but that shit doesn't need forcing and fortunately the dev has cleared that up.

 

[Priappus]

I want to play with it Μs Harper,this interests me above all,and I didn't see many scenes with her.

 

[Twelvemonkey]

Why is it only 69 MB? That doesn't seem right...

The game is fairly new, doesn't have a huge contents. not to mention that its been compressed.

 

[SecretDesire]

I loved it, I thought it was done really well.

Went against everything she knows about people and completely threw her off, it was nice to see her armour break for a second.

We're dating in one save when Viv agree's to an open relationship but I have another where she wanted to be exclusive and Eve said she needed time to think and left the shop.



I get you have your tastes but the dev has made it clear that cock will never be forced, it's always going to be optional and that's how it needs to be.

Everyone has their own tastes but this is aimed at people that like lesbian content and actual lesbians.

As a lesbian i'm not going to play something with forced cock content. You have the option to see it but that shit doesn't need forcing and fortunately the dev has cleared that up.

Hey could you share your save file open relationship or exclusive choice ?

 

[MrLakes1579]

I loved it, I thought it was done really well.

Went against everything she knows about people and completely threw her off, it was nice to see her armour break for a second.

We're dating in one save when Viv agree's to an open relationship but I have another where she wanted to be exclusive and Eve said she needed time to think and left the shop.

This game is just firing on a lot of cylinders. Like I could really imagine falling hard for either of Eva or Des. Every interacting you have with Eva just brings out little moments that catches you off guard and makes you want to connect with her deeper. And Des is just adorable, though I finally played the dom dressing room scene and it's funny to see her going from silly play kissing in the other playthrough to getting a full kiss pushed on her and her pussy fingered.
I get you have your tastes but the dev has made it clear that cock will never be forced, it's always going to be optional and that's how it needs to be.

Everyone has their own tastes but this is aimed at people that like lesbian content and actual lesbians.

As a lesbian i'm not going to play something with forced cock content. You have the option to see it but that shit doesn't need forcing and fortunately the dev has cleared that up.

I've loved this game's approach to the whole dom/sub thing. Your character has a strong opinion after first time someone forces a kiss on her, as opposed to most games like this where she's getting raped for like the first five updates before she shows the slightest interest in anything sexual. And the best part is that you get to act on this with your first interactions with others (though I would like the option to be ok with Eva feeling you up, but that's a pretty minor complaint).

But yeah I think what he was talking about is a specific sub kink (pardon the pun) where you want a sub to go against their orientation. Seems like it would be interesting enough to be its own thing worth developing, but I really think the dev here is doing an amazing job of giving the player character agency, probably better than I've seen in any other game.

 

[MrLakes1579]

The game is fairly new, doesn't have a huge contents. not to mention that its been compressed.

Yeah, on this update I've been playing though every option just by starting the whole game over and if you know what you're doing it's about a 10-20 minute thing to go all the way through at this point

 

[bcool]

Am I missing something or is it not possible to invite Eva to the party and go shopping with her after you had sex with her? If so I would like to see the option in that path, too, because you know: inviting somebody whom you have fucked should be more likely than inviting somebody you just barely know.



Agreed, however I would like to have that option at the start of the game (as in "enable straight content" or "lesbian only"), because having my character avoid Ms. Harpers task is also a mood killer: a blackmailed sub shouldn't have the choice whether she licks pussy or sucks dicks. And I fancy storylines where lesbians are forced to suck dicks or straight girls forced to lick pussies, so the answers of my Vivian to these questions contradict what I want to see.

I totally share your point, subs should not have a choice, it is not "a la carte" submission
But apparently, not everybody think like this, they do support the choice system, and they have developped their
motives about it....
Why cant we let the dev choose about that ?

 

[Avaron1974]

I totally share your point, subs should not have a choice, it is not "a la carte" submission

As a sub in the BDSM community of course we have a choice.

I don't think some of you know what BDSM and submission actually is. It isn't free reign for the dom to do whatever they want with no options for the sub, it's for the dom to do whatever the sub is comfortable with.

It's even mentioned in the game, a dom can tell you what to do but they can't force it.

This follows the actual meaning not what porn has led some of you to believe.

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“It’s always consensual,”

Blackmailing someone to do something isn't submission, it's rape. The dom/sub stuff here doesn't go to the extreme of forced sex.

 

[Power Broker]

As a lesbian i'm not going to play something with forced cock content.

I hope you read my first sentence since I proposed a content gate for those who just want to see lesbian stuff.
I'm indifferent to that (forced pussy for a straight Vivian is equally good for me) and more interested in the dynamics of the dom-sub-relationships. And in the scene we are talking about, this dynamic feels off.

You have a teacher blackmailing her, so a pretty hard, non-consensual approach. But then she granted Vivian her wish to not suck the cock, abandoned her plan of gaining more leverage and was content with Vivian giving her word... that was just disappointing for me. I hoped for a non-consensual dynamic where Vivian has no say in what she has to do and where the power imbalance shows in Vivian doing things that she would never do voluntarily. However, as of now we have a dynamic of "Yeah, she is blackmailed, but Mrs. Harper won't make her do things Vivian doesn't like". That's kind of cute, but not really what I'm expecting from a blackmail path.

So my critique is aimed at a 4th wall break (choose what Vivian has to do) that spoils the dynamic of the whole relationship (because Vivian shouldn't be able to choose in the first place and Mrs. Harper shouldn't refrain from her plan of gaining more leverage and making sure Vivian understands their new relationship).

I think what he was talking about is a specific sub kink (pardon the pun) where you want a sub to go against their orientation.

Yes, precisely, albeit it's not so much about the kink itself but about its effect and meaning for the relationship.

giving the player character agency

Yes, however if the developer includes blackmail in his game, this character agency should have its limits, otherwise it's not blackmail but just a variation of consensual roleplay between characters.

 

[SecretDesire]

Is there a way to go in relationship with Eva ? or anyone at this point or it's all about Sub/dom ?

I go shopping with Des. and kissed her she kissed me too but still they are "friends"

 

[bcool]

As a sub in the BDSM community of course we have a choice.

I don't think some of you know what BDSM and submission actually is. It isn't free reign for the dom to do whatever they want with no options for the sub, it's for the dom to do whatever the sub is comfortable with.

It's even mentioned in the game, a dom can tell you what to do but they can't force it.

This follows the actual meaning not what porn has led some of you to believe.

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Blackmailing someone to do something isn't submission, it's rape. The dom/sub stuff here doesn't go to the extreme of forced sex.

"I don't think some of you know what BDSM and submission actually is." !!!! How condescending !!!!
Maybe could you consider people here are less ignorant that you think they are, and
ask yourself if a sub cant choose "not to have the choice" ?....
Of course, he can stop the process at anytime, this is the choice
Have a great day

 

[anne O'nymous]

I hope you read my first sentence since I proposed a content gate for those who just want to see lesbian stuff.

You totally missed Avaron1974 point.

You have a teacher blackmailing her, so a pretty hard, non-consensual approach. But then she granted Vivian her wish to not suck the cock, abandoned her plan of gaining more leverage and was content with Vivian giving her word... that was just disappointing for me.

Yet it's a totally accurate depiction of how a dom/sub relation works in real life.

I hoped for a non-consensual dynamic where Vivian has no say in what she has to do and where the power imbalance shows in Vivian doing things that she would never do voluntarily.

It's not domination, it's sexual abuse. There's tons of games like that, go play them instead of trying to change one for the few games wrote by someone who know what a dom/sub relation really is.

However, as of now we have a dynamic of "Yeah, she is blackmailed, but Mrs. Harper won't make her do things Vivian doesn't like". That's kind of cute, but not really what I'm expecting from a blackmail path.

Like Tara say about her, "she uses a sledgehammer when all she should need is a little gust of wind".
Mrs Harper blackmailed Vivian because it's the easiest way to force her into submission and to ensure that she'll stay submissive. But she don't intend to rape her, nor abuse her, she just want Vivian as her sub. Therefore, once she achieved that, she act like a dom would effective act.
Yet, it happen only because of the player. Vivian can submit to Mrs. Harper without being blackmailed ; she even can become her apprentice.