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This con artist will be at the forefront of the lawsuit that shuts patreon down. 9k a month and nothing done in almost 18 months.
Joshua Tree
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I would like to see you spearhead that lawsuit. You should contact a lawyer asap. Let us know what he/she advice/tell you.
If you want to do something, or get something done. Never leave it to others if you serious about it right?
Before that though I would advice you to read through the legal policies of Patreon first. Also it seems all legal disputes with Patreon will be resolved in San Francisco under California law.
Also, some of those money must have been spent on good use by the gov right? It's taxable income after all
"Patreon does collect tax identification information and report this to tax authorities".
can someone please change the tag on hold to abandoned please ... this isn't funny anymore...
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Yeah even i think that his patreons are thinking this a little too much (nope).... 2021 act 2 - part 4 no doubt... this is the truth lads... folks... amigos... soon part x will be here no doubt... but his dev progress...
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Sorry if i mislead you by giving the 10th of september Release Day
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Here I am thinking "all the money gumdrop milked out of fools for doing nothing but making fake promises could have been used to support devs who actually deliver their games". It´s just sad how a scumbag like kyle make a small fortune for doing nothing while other devs, who produce great games. struggle to earn more than 100-200$. I really hope his patrons wake up and realize that kyle is lying to them. Even if he delivers an update it will never be good enough to justify such a ridiculous delay.
I think it's especially important to ask if it's real people who subscribe, because I think that any boss who hasn't updated in over a year loses people, but he doesn't, he just has more people
KsT's THE TWIST game is at its 34th update while he earns much less money than him
KsT's THE TWIST game is at its 34th update while he earns much less money than him
Joshua Tree
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And yet, no one of those that brought up this and similar had any facts or evidence, which you will not find in this thread. If you that interested, you can always contact patreon right? They even got a part in their terms that cover illegal activities.I think it's especially important to ask if it's real people who subscribe, because I think that any boss who hasn't updated in over a year loses people, but he doesn't, he just has more people
KsT's THE TWIST game is at its 34th update while he earns much less money than him
Or, even make a plausible theory how it would be possible with the payment options Patreon got.
Recent bump GD had I would put down to him put the game on Steam. However, I highly doubt it would ever get released there, but to garner interest and get people to his patreon, now that is something else.
i do think looking at his discord that even the staunchest of his vocal support over there are starting to turn now, think the ultimate test will be when and if he announces a new release date, if its more than a couple of weeks then i think people will have more than enough evidence that he is taking the piss....... (if they really needed more)
As for the constant argument of illegal activities, nothing can be proved as we can't see the actual breakdown of his patreons and their payments nor will we ever, so no matter how much his revenue levels defy all logic, there is no point even bringing it up unless you are wanting a personalised prove it post.......
As for the constant argument of illegal activities, nothing can be proved as we can't see the actual breakdown of his patreons and their payments nor will we ever, so no matter how much his revenue levels defy all logic, there is no point even bringing it up unless you are wanting a personalised prove it post.......
Finally! I don´t know how many pages back I wrote that even the nice and patient ones have a breaking point and that gumdrop has tio be careful, because once you annoyed the patient persons, that backlash is not good and regaining lost trust is very difficult.
The real patrons of gumdrop had already been extremly patient in the face of constant lies, broken promises and deadlines. He has used up the goodwill.
I think he got too cocky about how often you can sugercoat blatant lies and idiotic excuses. And his last one is among the most idiotic. A broken deadline (after he strained goodwill to the max with his earlier ones) because of two "missing/incomplete" animations? Send out the update and patch it later, would have been the correct action. With this he would have regained a bit of trust after all the lies and stuff. But now? A bridge, eh a lie too far, it seems.
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How much longer until the Mods on this site slap the abandoned tag on this game? This is getting ridiculous.
Joshua Tree
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What do you consider a "real" patreon? Doubt the level of heat you find in this thread reflect the commentary field on his patreon page. For some random joe that "just" discovered his game, they won't necessary know much about its history or background. You can find this game plastered all over internet. And now even on steam, which open up for a whole other crowd that doesn't necessary frequent sites such as this. And looking at early access games and such on steam, some of them been in the works for many years. So, some people just used to such and doesn't question it much. It doesn't make it right, but when it come to it, people in this regard is almost a endless resource.
Just look at these social games, mobile games and such with their p2w mechanics etc. They are based on a swing door mentality of players being a endless resource. Take them for as much as you can while they last, because there will always be someone new replace the ones leaving. All the while focus on the big whales.
Shame he haven't been as focused on get his game done, as he is on bring in support to it. In that regard I guess a lot of creators out there could learn a thing or two.
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I dunno which side is dumber, Gumdrop, or his fans. Gumdrop probably thinks that responding is gonna put out the fire, and doesn't understand trust. His fans don't understand when to walk away from a liar after he's done nothing for a year and a half...
Joshua Tree
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He recently put it on steam, I'm not sure that qualifies as abandoned. And with the attention it get, it wouldn't change anything, people would still post about it. Slap and abandoned tag on it, wouldn't change that. You think people would stop post if they did? I'm quite sure people would still ask for people to post his latest updates and such from Patreon.
They already placed an warning in the OP of the thread. Then again, for some reasons so many people doesn't bother reading such, they much prefer walk in land mines
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Uh, the dive he take month after month, with the following bumps just show patreons rotate in and out. I doubt his average patreons been sticking with him for the entire duration. But as with all games, fandoms what not. There is those that stick around, but nothing unique to this game and GD that. Take the travesty Star Citizen as example.
I could call you dumb for vote on x or y, or spend on x or y, as well. Label people because you think something is stupid is just silly.