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VN Ren'Py Abandoned Dual Family [Stream Extras] [Gumdrop Games]

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FR915

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I personally don't think this guy is a scammer or deserves so much negative feedback thrown at him. He did some great work til now. I do still support him and saw how much stuff he does and unlike many other devs, he updates everyone with his work.

I mean most people who throw so much negative feedback are just leechers anyway. Not sure what they're expecting with so much hate just don't bother with this game then.
So are you one of the followers of the Gumdrop sect? supporting a guy who hasn't posted a real update in two years. I feel ashamed for you. Look at your profile picture ... maybe that explains a little bit.

A woman was seen by her husband sleeping completely naked with his friend ... but the husband says that she did not betray him, because they were not caught in the sexual act ...

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If he turns out truly be a scammer I still can "according to the law in my country" and patreons guidelines (policy) sue him.
He can release a 5-minute content and stay out for another 3 years, and you won't be able to do anything at all.
 

fotogaik

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What would you sue him for? Deceit? He had no legal obligation to provide anything and he wasn't necessarily lying when he provided excuses and he would definitely be able to prove that he did work on the game whenever he could.
You could have also pulled support away from him at any time, you were under no duress to continue supporting him. Any half-competent judge would laugh this case out of court. Unless he was also gumdrop's supporter (though that would prove he's less than half-competent).
 

Dependable_223

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you cant sue him you are supporting his project but we can only hope he made a mistake when filing his taxes this can have devastating consequences a few dollars off and its already a huge problem..
 

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Captains Log - Day 0 - The End...For now


...It's over...It's finally over...



The crew can rest easy, lower down the thrusters,
dial down the weapons defense systems...


It's all over...

The puckered asshole of the gumdrops Void farted out it's last cry,
and the mods had enough.

...


The endless debates on the warranty of the game being abandoned or not are over,
and the hammer has fallen that it IS abandoned.

The sycophants are enraged, 'HoW dArE tHeY' they cry, but we must hush them,
for it is all over now.

Tears sting their eyes as they look at their empty wallets, moths flying from them...And we look at them at say...
'Told ya.'

Sad live footage of players finally realizing they've been conned for two years. (Above)


...

Perhaps, people will say it's unwarranted, after all, Gumdrops continues to promise...and promise...and promise...
But Gumdrops has tried too long to censor all criticism against his magnum opus and to constantly move the goal post on release dates.

Endless lies and promises sinking the plausibility lower and lower each time.

The only man responsible for sinking Gumdrops was himself,
the mods were incredibly lenient and fair on him, giving over two years for him to get his act together AND HE COULD NOT DO IT.

Will Gumdrops ever release the update?
Maybe.
And the cycle will begin again,

BUT:

At least he'd be forced to have made an effort to start the wheel again,
At least no people stumbling on this game will ever think it's anything other than abandoned.

...And with any luck, maybe even some of those discord sycophants who lurk around here (HI ABBY! Did you like Estate domination girl?)

Might finally, FINALLY get it.
Because Gumdrops is out of luck, and out of time,
And this tired old Captain has had enough of this Gumdrops Void.


...
P.S

If this is truly the end, I'll probably have to move the Captain's Logs to it's own thread off-topic, as it'd be pointless to keep it in an abandoned thread.

Well...Anyway,
this is your Captain,
Finally, signing off...
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Abandoned tag should be removed so we can just have more Captain's Log lmao.
 
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I had a stupid question, although this game has been abandoned, it still appears on STEAM on 17/09/2019??? Should i buy it on Steam???
No, the game on steam is the same as the one here. The game is abandonded and hasn't been updated in almost 2 years. All versions of the game on every website, here, steam, patreon, or otherwise are the same and none of will be be updated again.
 
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You guys saying to not close this thread... but what is truly a waste of time is sending the same thing over and over again and negative opinions that will won't change nothing in the dev progress (or not)...or his life if this became something personal.
 

TommyEsclow

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What would you sue him for? Deceit? He had no legal obligation to provide anything
Then read the guidelines on patreon. And I wrote if he turns out truly to be a scammer. He HAS legal obligation to provide us with that what he has wrote/promised. If he fails to deliver that while earning a significant amount of money it goes illegal. I already sued 2 guys on patreon and have enough experience to deal with it once the time comes. Just because most people don't care or even try doesn't mean it's something impossible. I don't have a problem being outed either... heck even my mom and my current gf know that I'm playing porn games (no joke).
 
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You guys saying to not close this thread... but what is truly a waste of time is sending the same thing over and over again and negative opinions that will won't change nothing in the dev progress (or not)...or his life if this became something personal.
It's about warning potential new patrons who first encounter this game on this site or come here for discussion about it, like you can literally see someone do on this very same page.

Without people describing/exposing the scam, shills like Tree (suddenly missing now) and the ones from his discord would be freely doing marketing for what is a blatant scam, aiding the scammer. That shills from his discord keep coming here means that the influence of this site is not negligible. The mods being pressured to put an abandoned tag would have likely never happened if the thread was closed.

That aside, I don't understand why Steam allows incomplete pseudo-games like this, with no "development" to speak of for two years, and which will never be continued, on their store. Are there no minimum standards at all? you would expect Steam to have better standards than fucking Patreon.
 
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fotogaik

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Then read the guidelines on patreon. And I wrote if he turns out truly to be a scammer. He HAS legal obligation to provide us with that what he has wrote/promised.
No. He could just as well cobble together an update with twenty lines of text, say they lived happily ever after, The End, and wrap up if he has two, but there's no legal obligation whatsoever.

If he fails to deliver that while earning a significant amount of money it goes illegal.
No. Not unless you prove that he was deliberately scamming people and not simply delaying updates because of incompetence. Besides, rewards include pinups and previews and even though their quality is astonishingly bad, gumdrop still provided them, so you can't prove you didn't get anything for your pledges.

I already sued 2 guys on patreon and have enough experience to deal with it once the time comes. Just because most people don't care or even try doesn't mean it's something impossible. I don't have a problem being outed either... heck even my mom and my current gf know that I'm playing porn games (no joke).
Sure, you sued those two guys. Did you actually win? What did you win? Which two developers did you sue so we can see that you're not just falsely boasting?
If you sued and gumdrop proved that he was incompetent, not deceitful, you'd lose the case. At best, you could win back credit for the current month. You wouldn't even get a full refund. You wouldn't get back processing fees. Oh, and Patreon would definitely stand behind a creator because they take a cut and would need to refund you that, too.
If creators are faced with losing money they earned through patreon because some patrons feels they weren't satisfied, it becomes an uncertain source of income because creators stand to lose it and be required to pay damages in a frivolous lawsuit.
 
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Then read the guidelines on patreon. And I wrote if he turns out truly to be a scammer. He HAS legal obligation to provide us with that what he has wrote/promised. If he fails to deliver that while earning a significant amount of money it goes illegal. I already sued 2 guys on patreon and have enough experience to deal with it once the time comes. Just because most people don't care or even try doesn't mean it's something impossible. I don't have a problem being outed either... heck even my mom and my current gf know that I'm playing porn games (no joke).
lol. Are you trolling? "I'll just sue if he turns out to be a scammer"... It's been almost 2 years without an update, why not just unpledge and wait and see if he ever releases again, rather than keep giving money to a guy you're not sure is a scammer. Normally when people think something could possibly be a scam they stay away, not take part in it because they'll just sue if it turns out to be a scam.

Besides, it's not like gumdrop needs more money to finish this update, he's literally made hundreds of thousands of dollars in the time since his last release. Not to mention, he's missed like 5 release dates over 2 years, and supposedly most of them were missed because of other people not finishing their work, not him since he finished all of his. So you're not even paying gumdrop to work on this update anymore, you're literally paying him to wait for other people to finish their work. You people literally paid Gumdrop over 100 thousand dollars to wait for fatcat to make animations for a year and a half, and they weren't even finished lol.

The worst part is, since gumdrop is probably a scammer, you're not even paying him to wait, you're just straight up being scammed. You make no sense. Seems like deep down even you know gumdrop is taking advantage of you guys, you know he's not being honest, you don't even deny it's a strong possibility he's scamming you. It's like you come to this thread, you have people telling you that gumdrop is full of shit and supporting him makes no sense, yet for whatever reason you just can't bring yourself to unsubscribe and you just cope by acting like you'll sue him. Well, in that case you better contact your lawyer because you're gonna need him.
 
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