VN Ren'Py Abandoned Dual Family [Stream Extras] [Gumdrop Games]

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J0K3RXXX

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Does anyone know where is the official walkthrough (which includes Act IX)? I asked it because the link in the OP sends you to a pdf with the official walkthrough but only includes until Act VIII.
 

Joshua Tree

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While I do whole heartedly agree with the sentiment that it's nonsense, unless the people who are paying him wake up and demand action, nothing's gonna happen. So I dunno about karma, seems to be working out the way it's worked out so far.
With good enough marketing you can extend the life of almost any product, and get people to throw money at it past due date. The only thing Patreon metrics does show is loss of patreons or increase of patreons, but it doesn't tell us how many pledges did cancel a month or how many did actually pledge during a month.

Tbh the I doubt many of the ones that did pledge a year ago does so still today. Metrics does show however it seems like he gaining or (keeping), more higher tier patreons. while losing a lot more lower tier patreons.

With any games, tv series, books, comics, what not. It's the "fandom" that is really the last ones to leave the building though. Why would it be any different for his game?
 

Joshua Tree

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You dont know that for sure...
  • There's a natural law of karma that vindictive people, who go out of their way to hurt others, will end up broken and alone. ...
Life ain't "My name is Earl" bro :p


I rather believe in Murphy's law.... Karma is a wishful thinking of poetic justice at best. To many bad people got away with to much bad shit for karma to be true.
 

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Life ain't "My name is Earl" bro :p


I rather believe in Murphy's law.... Karma is a wishful thinking of poetic justice at best. To many bad people got away with to much bad shit for karma to be true.
Nah..its just that your too young too understand the depth of it.Karma == Consequences.
 

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Karma is a human invention to make us feel good about the idea of 'balance in the universe.' That good guys get rewarded and bad guys always get punished in the end. It doesn't really hold water when I ask you to look at something like Unit 731 or various government administrations that have happily marched people into thinly veiled wars and still get to cash out a fat pay-check to this day.

It's more apt to say, 'if you live by the sword, you'll die by the sword' than anything, because doing bad shit just increases your chances of meeting a bad-end. Actions have consequences, but not all of them catch up to you personally.

I believe the universe is chaos, life is chaos,
and that chaos itself is subjective.
'What's chaos for the fly is normal for the spider.'
 

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It's more apt to say, 'if you live by the sword, you'll die by the sword' than anything, because doing bad shit just increases your chances of meeting a bad-end. Actions have consequences, but not all of them catch up to you personally.

I believe the universe is chaos, life is chaos,
and that chaos itself is subjective.
'What's chaos for the fly is normal for the spider.'
Further up at the top you are, the less likely you to face any consequences in the regard of "live by the sword and die by the sword". All you can really hope for is bad things fall to them that deserve it, but the world isn't really geared that way.

Think I'm more in the camp of "nice guys finish last".
 

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Further up at the top you are, the less likely you to face any consequences in the regard of "live by the sword and die by the sword". All you can really hope for is bad things fall to them that deserve it, but the world isn't really geared that way.

Think I'm more in the camp of "nice guys finish last".
It's more about the little details than anything I think.

You can fuck over hundreds of normal working joes and you'll get away with it (For so long), if you've got the power...Fuck with people who are also high on the ladder next to you, and well...you're on a slippery slope down into the mud-heap.

Anyway discussing these philosophies is far too high-brow and too off topic.

Far more important is when you're gonna reveal yourself as Keyser Soze of F95.
Add an extra layer of depth to the story,
reveal yourself as the Emperor Palpatine to Gumdrops Lord Vader.
 
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Joshua Tree

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It's more about the little details than anything I think.

You can fuck over hundreds of normal working joes and you'll get away with it (For so long), if you've got the power...Fuck with people who are also high on the ladder next to you, and well...you're on a slippery slope down into the mud-heap.
The most valuable thing you own is your reputation. Most of the time it doesn't matter how much good you do in life, if you fuck up and do something bad, that is what you end up get remembered by. I guess that could be a form of karma, and then at large a very unjust one many times.
 
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I'm gonna be honest, you are all making a fool of yourselves. I also wrote paragraphs in this thread but realized I was completely wasting my time arguing with strangers over a fucking incest porn game. No one's opinions will change or the game wont come out faster by coming back to this thread, only negative energy. Imagine what your mom or friends would think if they knew you were doing this.

With love, a fellow degenerate.
 

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I'm gonna be honest, you are all making a fool of yourselves. I also wrote paragraphs in this thread but realized I was completely wasting my time arguing with strangers over a fucking incest porn game. No one's opinions will change or the game wont come out faster by coming back to this thread, only negative energy. Imagine what your mom or friends would think if they knew you were doing this.

With love, a fellow degenerate.
Since you posting in this thread, you kinda in the same boat as everyone else here then. So why don't you go first and tell us how it went :p
 

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Since you posting in this thread, you kinda in the same boat as everyone else here then. So why don't you go first and tell us how it went :p
1 post every few weeks doesn't seem as harmful as going into debate every day about money and porn. I also never claimed I was not in the same "boat" as you guys, I enjoy taboo games. But to get so upset about something as an incest porn game is a red flag. Especially when you argue everyday about it with the same people, its unhealthy.
 

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1 post every few weeks doesn't seem as harmful as going into debate every day about money and porn. I also never claimed I was not in the same "boat" as you guys, I enjoy taboo games. But to get so upset about something as an incest porn game is a red flag. Especially when you argue everyday about it with the same people, its unhealthy.
I'm probably more inclined to poke at raging people with accusations, wild claims and so forth, than actually care (or not) about the game, gd, money or whatever. Which in one way is unhealthy due to the "either you are with us or against us" attitude in this thread.

Oh, I don't consider you a degenerate. At least not in the definition of the world degenerate, lol. (none of the others in here either, for that matter).
 
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This Joshua dude has to be trolling at this point. He will defend literally everything even when there are no doubts that this guy lied repeatedly (and he indeed blamed his "animator" for delays, again no evidence of one being hired has been shown. It could all be commissioned work). In fact, there is no evidence of ANY work having been done since more than a year ago.

"Oh but someone somewhere is doing something worse, so ignore all this" - Joshua

Sometimes I wonder if he realizes how ridiculous he sounds. The kind of stuff you would expect from a PR troll (think Monsanto shills).

If mods finally added a message in the first post of the thread describing what's going on, then I bet a lot of people would stop posting (I only post to warn naive people of the scam, the ONHOLD tag is clearly not working). We are at the stage where MORE PAGES have been created AFTER the game died than BEFORE. This Joshua dude keeps this thread active with his dumb arguments and the game gets free advertisement because it's bumped. People should stop posting and pressure the mods to add a message in the first post. Don't bump this scam to the first page (and report those who post multiple times in a row).
 
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