I went over Gumdrop's December update again, and a few lines stood out to me:
This is an interpretation fairly generous to gumdrop, but this may be his strange way of trying to create something he actually loves (my previous post talking about the stuff he put into the game that he clearly found funny like the skeleton dance and spooky message if you click on a certain decision supports this) from something he fell out of love with. Additionally, going through the game again, the narrator seems to express the totality of--despite anything positive and negative within or around it--L'esperienza: The experience. Perhaps Gumdrop wanted to end this whole debacle by providing something not only enjoyable to himself but something truly unique. "DFX" is a short and strange thing but you can't really argue that anything substantially close to it exists, either in and of itself or with its history.
The change on Patreon reflects this too, in a way. L'esperienza is featured as one of the benefits of his beta access membership level and he even went as far as to change the name of what he was developing. This was almost certainly primarily to protect himself from Patreon's policy (so his patrons can't say they aren't getting what they're paying for, and they're not paying for Dual Family anymore if you look at it), but it's still accurate. He's developing something new, designed to instill people with a distinctive experience.
I don't know if he'll actually release anything on Friday (the fact that he put the second release only one week after the next is weird since he's never done it before. Not sure what it indicates)but even if he doesn't, he's still delivered an unforgettable experience with DFX, as disappointing and as weird as it was.
Or I'm just reading too much into it and his scam has simply transformed into a troll with zero deeper meaning ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ It's obviously meant to be a troll either way but I'm just fascinated with this whole situation, especially given how small the scale is since this is just a porn game
- Two months ago, I decided that I want to make a good game. That’s what I’ve been dedicating the totality of my time to since then.
- currently, the story of Dual Family isn’t one I’m very enthusiastic to tell.
- Even if the emotional thread that’s held everything together to this point has been functional, I can’t help but recognize how inaccurate it is to my intent, how much better it could be. For you, to enjoy a genuinely good story. For me, to create a story worth telling, worth continuing and someday, worth finishing.
- The passion for continuing Dual Family wasn’t there and hasn’t been for a long time, not until very recently.
- And the truth is it hasn’t really been my passion at all, even since its inception three years ago. The things I’m passionate about, that I love are music, characters and a good story.
- Music, animation, characters that come with it. I want everything to be true to my intention, not a rushed homework assignment. Not missing marks over and over again because it’s not the story I want to be telling.
- Yet, the development cycle must continue. Release before it’s ready, cut a corner or two. Pull a bedroom, kitchen, entire house off the online store shelf and render because it saves time in the development cycle. Add a nude scene, a titty solely because of it’s compensatory and growth value.
In fact, throw a sex scene together with Karen, the aunt at the beach and also at the apartment, not because there will be an in-depth follow up or interesting repercussions for something like that, but because such content is a checklist item necessary for a successful release. Not a single chapter so far has escaped this. - We concluded 8-10 weeks is enough time to build a fully-fledged release with all the content we want, while still existing within a reasonably sized time window.
- This was the only way to accomplish what we all want: for Dual Family to be a good game, and for it to be completed.
- Whether you decide to support or not going forward, all I ask is that you patiently wait for me to create the story I want to make. Not a compromise, not a product, not a rushed preparation. Dual Family will finally be a game I love and hopefully, if you give ‘er a shot, a game you love too.
- The happiest thought in the world to me is to love and be loved by someone. Dual Family is a story about falling out, then falling in love again. I can’t wait to show you that, very much. :]
This is an interpretation fairly generous to gumdrop, but this may be his strange way of trying to create something he actually loves (my previous post talking about the stuff he put into the game that he clearly found funny like the skeleton dance and spooky message if you click on a certain decision supports this) from something he fell out of love with. Additionally, going through the game again, the narrator seems to express the totality of--despite anything positive and negative within or around it--L'esperienza: The experience. Perhaps Gumdrop wanted to end this whole debacle by providing something not only enjoyable to himself but something truly unique. "DFX" is a short and strange thing but you can't really argue that anything substantially close to it exists, either in and of itself or with its history.
The change on Patreon reflects this too, in a way. L'esperienza is featured as one of the benefits of his beta access membership level and he even went as far as to change the name of what he was developing. This was almost certainly primarily to protect himself from Patreon's policy (so his patrons can't say they aren't getting what they're paying for, and they're not paying for Dual Family anymore if you look at it), but it's still accurate. He's developing something new, designed to instill people with a distinctive experience.
I don't know if he'll actually release anything on Friday (the fact that he put the second release only one week after the next is weird since he's never done it before. Not sure what it indicates)but even if he doesn't, he's still delivered an unforgettable experience with DFX, as disappointing and as weird as it was.
Or I'm just reading too much into it and his scam has simply transformed into a troll with zero deeper meaning ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ It's obviously meant to be a troll either way but I'm just fascinated with this whole situation, especially given how small the scale is since this is just a porn game
Wow, didn't even think to check for that. However, I think it's worth noting that this has probably been in the works--maybe only conceptually--for a long time (at least since his December update, obviously). Him having to provide the voice lines to the narrator to read, translate into Italian, and then voice would have clearly taken a bit. Good find eitherway
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Well, saying it was a scam since the very beginning is hyperbole of course, I'm sure the whole thing did start with the intention of making what it was set out to be, and those first parts were worth for what they were to many, otherwise, this wouldn't have gained as much attention as it did.
Still, the game was released in February of 2017 with the last proper update a year later in 2018, 1 year of development followed by 3 of nothing while receiving funds for it, so even if it wasn't one in the beginning it ended bein one in practice.
Still, the game was released in February of 2017 with the last proper update a year later in 2018, 1 year of development followed by 3 of nothing while receiving funds for it, so even if it wasn't one in the beginning it ended bein one in practice.
Because it's pretty much the last nail in the coffin, if he fails on that, his patreons will be forced to face reality (I hope at least but after three years is hard to say with those people), if he delivers, well, color me impressed I guess.
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That timestamp just tells you when those files were last updated, nothing more. A final fix or update.
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Funny thing is that I enjoy listening to some of his music. The music to the 11 min video with the low res skeleton face is pretty good. Reminds me of playing Monkey Island with LeChucks skeletons dancing around. And it finishes with his(?) voice, eerily giving a message to his supporters. Better than any horror movie, because this is real.
Clearly a lot of time was spent putting this release together. I think doing music and stuff like this is his hobby and some of what he spent his time on while watching the money pouring in from his supporters. Then he put some of his stuff together for a release with clues and hidden messages that all say that this is a scam.
Clearly a lot of time was spent putting this release together. I think doing music and stuff like this is his hobby and some of what he spent his time on while watching the money pouring in from his supporters. Then he put some of his stuff together for a release with clues and hidden messages that all say that this is a scam.
Partially true. The timestamps reveal when the game was compiled before uploading because RenPy creates a directory ready for release which you can then compress and upload. Otherwise they would be identical for PC and Mac versions.
So those were not final fixes, that was the final compilation before making an archive.
Semantics aside, you'd think that if he planned for this "release," he'd have it ready a week or two ago and would have uploaded it a few days before making the link available. No point risking missing the deadline.
Just throwing it out there, if he did hire a team, it could still be an elaborate troll from one of the people he hired, but I don't think it's likely (either/both of these, hiring a team or the work of a troll).
My honest opinion about this game was generally good at the moment when it was 1st time released. This game is the reason why i created F95 account.I believe that he had genuine and honest thoughts and ideas about this game. Release was every month or so back in the time so no one complained. The game was advertised as real life, choice based game which many people's, including in this site, liked. However, as more people started to pledge and money started pouring in gread and deception started to take a hit. His own team abandoned him after they saw what kind of a person Kyle is. It was during that time that game started to become worse for the last 2-3 releases. And then we know how it all continiued. He falsly advertised the release of part X for couple of times, several missed self imposed dead lines, then remake when no one actually wanted this but instead people simply wanted part X all the way to DFX. He simply lost his tracks and he even indirectly admited that in secret message from DFX. Will he release anything on Feb 26? Idk, maybe. The risk Kyle have right now is to release nothing in which case his supporters might cancel their support. If he release something and it's not good the result could be the same.
Wait a minute. You do know we are talking about Gumdrop? Risking missing the deadline?
Oh no, his reputation would be ruined.A final compilation means final fixes, otherwise it wouldn't be a final compilation. You don't compile a thing like this for the first time the morning you release it. I don't see where you are going with this. Making this release took a lot of time. There is nothing strange about the final compilation being done just before release. And no point in uploading it days in advance. You think this is how people releasing updates do it? Think again.
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Who needs Netflix when you have this thread.
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Don't get your hopes high. The developer changed his profession to a scam artist.sorry but since english not my native language,
can i get conclusion about discuss up my comment.
The update is when?
or it will be abandoned forever?
please answer seriously.... i love this game, i mean "we"
Honest opinion......Gumdrop had an idea of some incest story with the Mom/son or daughter/dad but with the Patreon rules, the story hit a wall and has no clue on what to do next. Patreon is the money tree that just keeps giving. Its been a long time since I last played but the skeleton on the aeroplane was pointless. Gumdrop might as well do some artwork and make them into tile puzzles if he want that nice Patreon income to continue
THE COMING FEB 18TH IS FREE FOR EVERYONE -
JOIN US FOR THE COUNTDOWN AT HOME...............21st now ..... is that another deadline missed??
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He already released it on the 18th, it was posted here some pages back but don't give your hopes up.
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If this was a normal release, sure. It's the middle of the month, there was still a week to do a release if it was proper DF and nobody would complain since they didn't have to pay for an extra month. But since he wanted to troll people, he needed to hit the deadline this time, especially since there's another announcement coming this Friday.Wait a minute. You do know we are talking about Gumdrop? Risking missing the deadline?
That's the thing. I don't see what final fixes he needed to add to DFX. It doesn't need any bug fixing, any bugs are a feature in a release like this. In any case, it's completely linear, so there's no branching to verify. All of the interface had to be done a long time ago and animations and sound is handled by RenPy engine anyway, so beyond his control (and he'd have this prototyped with placeholders until he had assets).
There's really nothing that warrants last minute fixes here.
Of course not. But if he planned it since December, he should have completed it some time in advance. And he absolutely needed to plan it long in advance because it took a long time to do the Italian translation and record it (unless Italian is his second language which would make it quicker).
I'm not claiming otherwise. But in the case of other games made by one person, assets usually come first, then comes writing and coding. This makes the release time very fluid. But in this case, music was done earlier, the piano game was not hard to code and the only thing he was waiting for were assets.
As I said, it's not your typical developer and it's not your typical release.
Sure, some people might cling on to hope that this release was done maliciously by a disgruntled developer that Gumdrop hired, but I don't think anyone here takes this possibility seriously.
No offense but you are making stuff up about how you think a release should be done, when it doesn't work like that. I still have no idea what you are trying to say with all of this. There is absolutely nothing strange with the game being compiled on the same day as the release. Nothing.