HTML Dune – Breeding a Dynasty [v0.1.1] [lmno]

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Should we change the artstyle to the new version posted [here](/post-12150541)?

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bobdillan

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NTR? Hard no. And BtD didn't have actual NTR either.
Sharing on the other hand...
lmno doesn't seem to like that kind of stuff and I feel mostly indifferent to it. I think it will be difficult to avoid it completely, but I think we can make everything avoidable. No promises though.
I think gameovers are fair game to have unpleasant stuff in them. Just don't fail. There's definitiely gonna be more of that.
A gameover is actual NTR...

Also BtD did have actual NTR as well... a lot of it. (the sister with the body guard, the cousin with a gang, the wife with a gang, and many others, with a few having no choice, hence it being NTR, there was also NTR ending).

Just because an NTR fan wouldn't be happy with it, or satisfied, doesn't mean the NTR doesn't stop being NTR, just isn't adequate for someone who is looking for it. (But is still enough to make people ignore it as a result.

Anyway you should update the tags adding Netorare since you have a Netorare scene, bad ending or not, tags are what the game has, not what the main theme is, could be the tiniest of scenes, but you still add the tag. (e.g. one small scat scene in the whole game, gets it the scat tag).

O and for those that would care about NTR... sharing is basically the same thing to them :KEK:
 
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So there's a bad game over scene... hmm a pity

Does this game have cheat or is there any way to make my character impossible to lose?
 

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The 2021 film was my first introduction to Dune universe, and I enjoyed that film very much.
Haven't read the books yet, nor have I played the Behind the Dune as others have.
But I tried out your first release and ended up quite liking it.

Writing, while it is a parody doesn't feel like a parody (I like that while there's silliness to what's happening, there's gravitas in the tone. If that even makes sense lol). And yes, it's AICG, but I quite like the almost hand-drawn like feel it gives in the artstyle that accompanies the text.

The game being in HTML format, due to not normally my preferred format of games made me initially hesitant, but I'm glad I gave this a try.


So regarding the game, till which book do you guys intend to adapt (while changing some parts to what fits for your game)?
All I know is that Paul is the MC of the first book (Dune, movies adapting into 2 parts) & the sequel book (Dune Messiah), and heard several times that Denis Villeneuve wants to adapt Dune Messiah for his third film so that he can finish adapting his "Paul Atreides Dune trilogy."

Makes me wonder whether you two will follow the same suit as him, or just adapt the first Dune book.
Even if it's the latter, I still think it would be a great feat, since the first book seems to be very thick and long and likely will become a long game.
But I guess I'm curious. As to where the endgame will be (even if it's long way away lol).
 
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Please continue this. Also focus on the jessica path. Love me some milfs
Jessica is the main course. Romancing her won't even be optional.

A gameover is actual NTR...

Also BtD did have actual NTR as well... a lot of it. (the sister with the body guard, the cousin with a gang, the wife with a gang, and many others, with a few having no choice, hence it being NTR, there was also NTR ending).

Just because an NTR fan wouldn't be happy with it, or satisfied, doesn't mean the NTR doesn't stop being NTR, just isn't adequate for someone who is looking for it. (But is still enough to make people ignore it as a result.

Anyway you should update the tags adding Netorare since you have a Netorare scene, bad ending or not, tags are what the game has, not what the main theme is, could be the tiniest of scenes, but you still add the tag. (e.g. one small scat scene in the whole game, gets it the scat tag).

O and for those that would care about NTR... sharing is basically the same thing to them :KEK:
Netorare is cheating by one partner against the express wishes of the protagonist. Sharing isn't NTR, rape isn't NTR and there can't be NTR without an established relationship.
If you don't like any of these things, that's fine. Hell, even if you dislike any random woman having sex with anyone besides the MC, that's fine. But don't call it NTR. We have accurate names for fetishes for a reason.
Irulan getting gangbanged by Fremen in BtD happens at the behest of the MC - not NTR.
Chani and Harah in the dungeon - rape, although the women aren't protesting too much, so admittedly it's teetering on the edge to NTR
Alia seducing Duncan - potentially NTR, depending on what happened between her and the MC previously. Ok, I'll give you that one.
The endings with Leto - they're married, not technically NTR. But hose are weak-ass endings for sure.

That one gameover in this game also isn't NTR. Even if it wasn't rape, the protagonist is dead at that point. If anything, this game has Netori, because the mother is cheating on her husband with her son.

I get that NTR is a convenient shorthand for your kind of people, but I'm strictly against putting it in the tags, because I don't want to put off people like myself, who strongly dislike actual NTR but don't mind all the other stuff.
Thankfully F95 is working on new tags, so hopefully the game can be properly tagged in the future.

So there's a bad game over scene... hmm a pity

Does this game have cheat or is there any way to make my character impossible to lose?
No need for a cheat. If you have a functioning brain, you will be able to avoid it. I consider this gameover a conscious choice. Although future updates could potentially introduce gameovers, that can't be seen from a mile away.

The 2021 film was my first introduction to Dune universe, and I enjoyed that film very much.
Haven't read the books yet, nor have I played the Behind the Dune as others have.
But I tried out your first release and ended up quite liking it.

Writing, while it is a parody doesn't feel like a parody (I like that while there's silliness to what's happening, there's gravitas in the tone. If that even makes sense lol). And yes, it's AICG, but I quite like the almost hand-drawn like feel it gives in the artstyle that accompanies the text.

The game being in HTML format, due to not normally my preferred format of games made me initially hesitant, but I'm glad I gave this a try.


So regarding the game, till which book do you guys intend to adapt (while changing some parts to what fits for your game)?
All I know is that Paul is the MC of the first book (Dune, movies adapting into 2 parts) & the sequel book (Dune Messiah), and heard several times that Denis Villeneuve wants to adapt Dune Messiah for his third film so that he can finish adapting his "Paul Atreides Dune trilogy."

Makes me wonder whether you two will follow the same suit as him, or just adapt the first Dune book.
Even if it's the latter, I still think it would be a great feat, since the first book seems to be very thick and long and likely will become a long game.
But I guess I'm curious. As to where the endgame will be (even if it's long way away lol).
Thanks for the kind feedback! Much appreciated.
There are too many interesting things going on in the sequels, so naturally we would like to include them as well. It's just a matter of how long we will be able to continue this project. We aren't doing this professionally after all and I expect that years will pass, before we are done.

Exclusivement blanc ! les Freemen portent tous un distile lorsqu'ils sortent dans le désert...
Exclusively white! The Freemen all wear a distile when they go out into the desert...
Maybe. If the Fremen were descended from Africans for example, they probably wouldn't be fair-skinned even after thousands of years. We just don't know their ethnicity.
But there are people living on Arrakis, that don't wear stillsuits by the way. The city folk would logically have to look quite tan.
 
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bobdillan

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Jessica is the main course. Romancing her won't even be optional.


Netorare is cheating by one partner against the express wishes of the protagonist. Sharing isn't NTR, rape isn't NTR and there can't be NTR without an established relationship.
If you don't like any of these things, that's fine. Hell, even if you dislike any random woman having sex with anyone besides the MC, that's fine. But don't call it NTR. We have accurate names for fetishes for a reason.
Irulan getting gangbanged by Fremen in BtD happens at the behest of the MC - not NTR.
Chani and Harah in the dungeon - rape, although the women aren't protesting too much, so admittedly it's teetering on the edge to NTR
Alia seducing Duncan - potentially NTR, depending on what happened between her and the MC previously. Ok, I'll give you that one.
The endings with Leto - they're married, not technically NTR. But hose are weak-ass endings for sure.

That one gameover in this game also isn't NTR. Even if it wasn't rape, the protagonist is dead at that point. If anything, this game has Netori, because the mother is cheating on her husband with her son.

I get that NTR is a convenient shorthand for your kind of people, but I'm strictly against putting it in the tags, because I don't want to put off people like myself, who strongly dislike actual NTR but don't mind all the other stuff.
Thankfully F95 is working on new tags, so hopefully the game can be properly tagged in the future.


No need for a cheat. If you have a functioning brain, you will be able to avoid it. I consider this gameover a conscious choice. Although future updates could potentially introduce gameovers, that can't be seen from a mile away.


Thanks for the kind feedback! Much appreciated.
There are too many interesting things going on in the sequels, so naturally we would like to include them as well. It's just a matter of how long we will be able to continue this project. We aren't doing this professionally after all and I expect that years will pass, before we are done.


Maybe. If the Fremen were descended from Africans for example, they probably wouldn't be fair-skinned even after thousands of years. We just don't know their ethnicity.
But there are people living on Arrakis, that don't wear stillsuits by the way. The city folk would logically have to look quite tan.
Netorare isn't cheating...

Netorare is MC being taken from... please read tag rules (the updated one)

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Your game has that, on loss...

Cheating is cheating, hence it has it's own tag. (although since Netorare includes MC being cheated on, it isn't used for that, but Netorare isn't exclusive to it).

If Netorare worked by your definition half the Netorare doujins and games out there have a wrong tag.. but it ain't by your definition.
 
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Netorare isn't cheating...

Netorare is MC being taken from... please read tag rules (the updated one)

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Your game has that, on loss...

Cheating is cheating, hence it has it's own tag. (although since Netorare includes MC being cheated on, it isn't used for that, but Netorare isn't exclusive to it).

If Netorare worked by your definition half the Netorare doujins and games out there have a wrong tag.. but it ain't by your definition.
Dictionary.com says:
"Netorare is a genre of anime, manga, or video game focused on infidelity. Commonly a subgenre of pornographic hentai anime, netorare storylines typically focus on the internal distress caused by one member in a relationship cheating on the other. "
Or using the current F95 definition, which is still in force:
Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.

Obviously there are some differences in the definitions. To me NTR is a subset of cheating, with the intent to cause jealousy. But for some reason it got watered down to be synonymous to cheating and then it got watered down even more by people with fragile egos and now includes roughly 70% of all human sexual behaviour.
Even if I use your exact words "Netorare is MC being taken from", it doesn't apply. First if all, the woman isn't even "his" at that point. Receiving a handjob from a woman doesn't make her your girlfriend, sorry to disappoint you. Also, again, the MC is dead at that point. Or do you consider sex with a widow adultery?

Maybe half of all doujins and games are indeed tagged wrong. Wouldn't surprise me. It would be the fault of the people who shut off their brain and go into a frenzy, once they catch a whiff of non-MC dick.
I think we need some sort of tag for people like you, that expresses the concept of "someone besides MC gets his dick wet".
EDIT: I see that already exists in the new tag list, but in reverse: " protagonist-centric - Used when there the protagonist is the only person to engage in sexual activity with any of the other characters. " The proper use of that tag should save us a lot of trouble.

If you disagree with my judgement, you can appeal to moderators. They have the power to change tags.
 
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Jessica is the main course. Romancing her won't even be optional.
I'm sure other LIs will have their scenes too, but ngl, Jessica in you and lmno's first release set the bar up quite high! :love::BootyTime:
She's my favorite already, heh.


No need for a cheat. If you have a functioning brain, you will be able to avoid it. I consider this gameover a conscious choice. Although future updates could potentially introduce gameovers, that can't be seen from a mile away.
I just chose the Resist option right away, so I didn't even see that Game Over scene lol


Thanks for the kind feedback! Much appreciated.
There are too many interesting things going on in the sequels, so naturally we would like to include them as well. It's just a matter of how long we will be able to continue this project. We aren't doing this professionally after all and I expect that years will pass, before we are done.
That's good to know.
In terms of LIs, do you and lmno already have set who will definitely be LIs in this game (whether they're main LIs or side LIs)?
If so how many are there, if you can reveal it?

From the looks of it, I'm guessing the following:

- Lady Jessica (confirmed)
- Chani (confirmed)
- Princess Irulan (confirmed)
- Reverend Mother Helen (likely?)
- Lady Margot - tbh, I have know idea who this character is, just know cause Lea Seydoux is playing the character in the upcoming film lol (maybe?)

Though I'm guessing the list doesn't end with the above or am I wrong (probably those who read the books will know lol)?


Netorare isn't cheating...

Netorare is MC being taken from... please read tag rules (the updated one)

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Your game has that, on loss...

Cheating is cheating, hence it has it's own tag. (although since Netorare includes MC being cheated on, it isn't used for that, but Netorare isn't exclusive to it).

If Netorare worked by your definition half the Netorare doujins and games out there have a wrong tag.. but it ain't by your definition.
I think when he was stating cheating, he was just referring it to the general sense of definition, not the specific definition of the "cheating" tag used in f95.
F95's new tag definition of "cheating", iirc is MC two-timing on his LI with another girl.


I haven't even played BtD nor did I bother to check out the Bad ending of this game so can't comment on those either.

But given reynold.biplane's comment that with the Game Over Bad Ending, I don't think we can count something that happens when the MC is dead as NTR.
Similar reasoning applies to MC's visions he sees of Jessica with Reverend Mother Helen "training" her in her Bene Gesserit days before she became Leto's concubine.
That's all things which happened before MC even existed, so those vision scenes shouldn't even count as NTR.
It's similar to just any AVN's game MC's LI previously having sexual relationship with her Ex, before the breakup and gets into a relationship with the MC. NTR can't exist for her she did with her ex when a relationship with MC doesn't even exist at that point.
 
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In terms of LIs, do you and lmno already have set who will definitely be LIs in this game (whether they're main LIs or side LIs)?
If so how many are there, if you can reveal it?

From the looks of it, I'm guessing the following:

- Lady Jessica (confirmed)
- Chani (confirmed)
- Princess Irulan (confirmed)
- Reverend Mother Helen (likely?)
- Lady Margot - tbh, I have know idea who this character is, just know cause Lea Seydoux is playing the character in the upcoming film lol (maybe?)
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JJJ84

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Quality instead of quantity.
That's very true.
I'd rather have really strong/well written LIs even if the numbers in total are limited, rather than the LI roster get way too ballooned up and seeing the overall quality fall.
Not saying you can't handle writing for multiple LIs, but I just feel there being less for you to juggle will be and more of a laser sharp focus on the characterization on the ones who really matter.
 
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Well, incest is rather unavoidable, i would say. Irulan is Paul's second or third degree cousin.
 
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