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Not yet but dev said there will be after fixing all errors.
ahh okay thanks. Is there any save or mods with max stats since I just want to view the scenes. So it would make going through easier.
 

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So basically the devs will make avoidable NTR patch? Better wait then
Most of the heroines already have fully avoidable NTR, only two, the main (fakeout) heroine at the beginning, and Dwarf. Both the dev has stated will have avoidable paths added later.
 
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The NTR is 100% unavoidable, the very first love interest you are scripted to date is scripted to be raped and deflowered infront of you no matter what ,after a battle that you can't win (no matter the level you are, the opponent is scripted to evade 100% of the attacks, and even when I made his HP to zero through cheating and killed him the game continued on as if I had lost said battle and with the girl being raped)
Well, dang, that's a shame. I mean, I don't really care myself, but I can understand how having that control taken away would be unappealing.
 
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More than likely it's the gameplay to porn ratio. Makura is pretty well known for his hard NTR so most people going into one of their games should expect it. But, Makura also likes to make actual game games. And for this one he went off the deep end with it lol.

For how much frustration/stress the NTR characters and situations cause the sheer amount of effort you have to go through to even get to those/any scenes is heavily lopsided. This is compounded by incredibly vague directions on what to do next to advance the story.

Now this one's a bit personal but, I don't really care for the custom character dynamic either. I feel it really takes away from the feeling of these being real characters that matter. They feel like fodder at best. Which isn't helped by Makura's kinda... generic art style.

I still like the game mind you. But, yeah it definitely loses some points and isn't as good as the previous one.
The reason were more likely the bugs and the removal of scenes from the trial due to gamebreaking errors. it has almost every day new patch and in the 1st week 2 per day. Some of them breaking things even more if you see the patch notes history.

ahh okay thanks. Is there any save or mods with max stats since I just want to view the scenes. So it would make going through easier.
be carefull though because certain options causing problems.

Mod was made by drchainchair2 so any issues should report to him.
 

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I hate NTR, but I like games that have avoidable NTR in them because it adds stakes to the game. Almost every game the IRL consequences of losing or failing, is usually lost time. However with avoidable NTR your failures could result in emotional damage (I know you're already hearing when reading those two words). Which in turn ups the tension, and for me increases my enjoyment especially when you triumph. My dream game would have slave/waifu collection (blame pokemon) and avoidable NTR, where you have to actually play like the boss bitch most games "tell" the player that's what they are.
 

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I hate NTR, but I like games that have avoidable NTR in them because it adds stakes to the game. Almost every game the IRL consequences of losing or failing, is usually lost time. However with avoidable NTR your failures could result in emotional damage (I know you're already hearing when reading those two words). Which in turn ups the tension, and for me increases my enjoyment especially when you triumph. My dream game would have slave/waifu collection (blame pokemon) and avoidable NTR, where you have to actually play like the boss bitch most games "tell" the player that's what they are.
So i guess something closer to this . An old favorite.
 
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Either way, unavoidable gameplay auto-loss NTR just feels cheap considering how easy the game seems to be, but the game reeks of unfinished business, so it is what it is.
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although, I will say, there was something REALLY funny to me when she gets taken and you make it to where they're keeping her and trigger some events. she was forced wear like a bikini as her base outfit and the MC's party is appalled by the whole situation.
...which just made me veer my eyes to the side avoiding eye contact since I had her wearing a shell bikini the WHOLE time she was in my party(which I would say surprisingly covers slightly less than that outfit LMAO) meanwhile I'm going, "Yeah... that's... really heinous... how dare they... cough".
oh, and my thief was wearing red lacy panties because I couldn't find a skirt for her.
which kinda annoyed me since I kept finding a bunch of decent pants but they were pointless since only men can wear them and there was no point in my Theo wearing one since he was wearing the full mail(which takes up top and bottom slots)
So can the MC get multiple women or is he locked to one for the full game like previous Makura games?
didn't play the other titles, I think you can get married to one of the custom chars at some point, dunno about multiple


oh, if you plan on changing someone's class but they're the wrong alignment for the class I think you can go to one of the churches(good or evil), make the char you want to change alignments make a donation, then do an action that's good(I didn't try this) or bad(fighting a friendly encounter) and they should swap to said alignment. I could be wrong since I only did it once, maybe someone with more experience can clarify this.
also the girls have a hidden exhibition stat that won't show until it goes above 50(?), but I think it's just cosmetic though as it just makes their protrait look less embarrassed if they were skimpier clothing(or lack thereof, if you make them go nude)

So i guess something closer to this . An old favorite.
oh my god thank you for reminding me of this game, god I wish they did a sequel
 

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So i guess something closer to this . An old favorite.
Yep! Loved that game. What really solidified my ideal game was playing modded skyrim with diary of mine and some difficulty mods. One I recently found out about that doesn't have NTR but does have consequences for failure is Yaradiels Crown. It's definitely more female friendly but totally viable to play a domming male.
 

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The reason were more likely the bugs and the removal of scenes from the trial due to gamebreaking errors. it has almost every day new patch and in the 1st week 2 per day. Some of them breaking things even more if you see the patch notes history.
I'm sure that doesn't help either lol. Can't say I'm surprised though. The guy is a freaking relic. Just finding info on this game while he was making it was such a pain since he doesn't use like anything modern at all. :LOL:
 
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Does the game feature rape on losing battle and if yes how is the difficulty, is it challenging or is it another so easy that its actually harder to lose.
 

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A lot of games here use mtool with free translators or google translations which have some shitty translations. 70b or higher LLMs usually start off with a decent straight translation that's pretty understandable without edits.
I played one that was actively being edited and the main term for like the main concept of the game had 7 different translations through the script
Literally did not realize it was the same thing until a ways in
 
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