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You need to learn the “jump” skill to return to the city with the beach and continue with the rescue missionsHow early in te game should i advance to avoid ntr on gnome girl, immediately when i can get married?
In the tutorial, the person who created the tutorial follows a normal route
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Gnome NTR can only be avoided in the prologue.
When Shwarz is escorting the party to Saphire City, you have to go down to the Ravine and defeat the bandits.
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You can brick your romance apparently. At the endgame girls will start asking about marriage, and you might falsely assume they will re-ask it infinitely, since human and sylph do so a lot of time, giving you an option to wait. However, after some time human will stop asking you that, at all, there will be no way to trigger this event again. Elf also gives you an illusion of delay, but for me choosing to think about it made her instantly bricked as well.
Dwarf is the obvious one, since it clearly shows you that it's a one-time event if you refuse, but others show you nothing, there's no indication you made a mistake, and how many times you're allowed to delay the marriage choice. Maybe it's a bug or something? Otherwise it's a pretty evil feature. It might have to do something with alignment, since my elf was evil, human was good, and i changed both of them into neutral with neutral armor's special power. Sylph never stopped asking for marriage, only human and elf did.
I would've loved to know a way to re-activate it again, with cheat engine or save editing, because it's BS.
Dwarf is the obvious one, since it clearly shows you that it's a one-time event if you refuse, but others show you nothing, there's no indication you made a mistake, and how many times you're allowed to delay the marriage choice. Maybe it's a bug or something? Otherwise it's a pretty evil feature. It might have to do something with alignment, since my elf was evil, human was good, and i changed both of them into neutral with neutral armor's special power. Sylph never stopped asking for marriage, only human and elf did.
I would've loved to know a way to re-activate it again, with cheat engine or save editing, because it's BS.
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Are they virgins, or had they passed development levels when you cannot get married after first choice?
If not, just sleep in the inn multiple times, you'd get the marriage question again after like 5 nights.
hyperbombs also solve the majority of annoying puzzles iirc. Just gotta find the red wall.
The downside is they count for endgame statistics, if anyone really cares about that. I sure didn't.
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They're all various levels of development. My dwarf has the exact same highest number of development as my human has, but human no longer talks about marriage no matter how many times i sleep, and dwarf always talks about it. Human marriage proposal was repeatable, now it isn't.
Interesting to notice that elf doesn't even consider MC a love interest when they're in one room, prompting a normal, strangers dialogue on click that doesn't give love, but gives love if you talk to her while she's in any other room. Human does give a love dialogue no matter what, but doesn't offer marriage anymore.
And now after one more bedroom activity with Linus dwarf prompts the same, no longer talking romantically in one room... The only guess i have left is that it may be connected to the SUM of developments? Perhaps if the sum exceeds 60 they no longer can be married?
Well anyway, i tried that while writing that post, and YES, 60 IN TOTAL development levels will make them impossible to marry, despite no dialogue indicating so. However their bedroom dialogue will remain on "strangers" level even if you cheat development back through CE. Not sure what causes that to dwarf and elf, but not to human.
This game bugs me. It's got a solid foundation and excellent game mechanics, but if you think it'll be some kind of harem game you're way off. Once you are thoroughly invested it forces some seriously heavy unavoidable NTR on you, even when you go out of your way to get her a chastity belt, and after that it is pretty much playing NTR keep away or embracing NTR for the long haul. I haven't been able to figure out how to get any for the MC other than with his forced on you wife. Am I missing something? Is it all in NG+?
You're not missing anything, there are no story changes in NG+ and custom male characters in free mode don't even gain affection points.
MC is so allergic to premarital intimacy that, even though he loses his immunity to death breath, he still maintains enough anti-demon power to save himself from succubus rape.
The women are not much better.
With enough affection, they will crawl into bed with the MC but still not doing anything until marriage. After marriage they become clingy towards the MC and jealous if he spends too much time with the other women.
Meanwhile, it only takes three rapes before a woman begins to fall in love with their rapist and will eventually begin taking empty rooms in order to force the other women into their rapist's room.
MC is so allergic to premarital intimacy that, even though he loses his immunity to death breath, he still maintains enough anti-demon power to save himself from succubus rape.
The women are not much better.
With enough affection, they will crawl into bed with the MC but still not doing anything until marriage. After marriage they become clingy towards the MC and jealous if he spends too much time with the other women.
Meanwhile, it only takes three rapes before a woman begins to fall in love with their rapist and will eventually begin taking empty rooms in order to force the other women into their rapist's room.
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1. As I've said before, the biggest problem with this game is its solid foundation and painfully visibly missed potential.
2. You aren't missing anything.
3. This is largely just the weirdness of the NTR genre in general: unicorn MC with hardcore puritan beliefs about sex and marriage despite literally everyone else that isn't just a faceless one-liner NPC in the game being absolutely gung-ho about sex, sex and more sex. Bonus points for micro-penis/premature ejaculation. Occasionally you'll get an MC who wants sex but is just super lacking in confidence/oblivious/physically cannot satisfy women. The games are normally about the emotional turmoil of the MC and/or corruption of the girl. This game does a solid job of railroading the former (for Riselles plotline) and shit job of the corruption because it turns out every girl in this world is varying degrees of a subtle closet pervert who's just waiting for a dick to come along and rail the shit out of her.
4. This dev in particular is specialized in creating solid strategy games that punish you for playing the game well because they only ever cared about creating the NTR plotline. On the one hand, it's their game, it's an NTR focused game, whatever. On the other hand it inevitably leaves a bitter taste because even to enjoy the NTR content you often have to actively sabotage yourself/just play the game super casually without bothering to think about the consequences of your actions in a strategy-centric game. Which is super counter-intuitive.
If you like the non-H aspects of the game, it's worth playing. If you enjoy diving into the NTR-aspects of the game and don't care how you go about that, it's kinda worth playing but also annoying as a lot of game gets in the way of the next H-scene. If you're looking for a pure love route, it's punishing and gives you next to no reason to give a damn about any character because they spent the entire first like, third to half of the game building up Riselle only to have the story erase her from the picture. Heck, I don't even recall if it offers decent netorase content where MC just kinda pervs on Riselle embracing her slut life when she finally comes back for the final stretch.
this game is fun, but the biggest criticism to this game definitely is the fact you are destined to get stuck somwhere and need to go OUTSIDE the game to understand it fucking anoyying (7/10)
anyway, again stuck thistime with the cult symbol part in the forest fortress.
thx again for the help
anyway, again stuck thistime with the cult symbol part in the forest fortress.
thx again for the help
This is too accurate. All the major game mechanics seem to hint at protecting the girls or corrupting them slowly. And the reward for doing that?
Oh god the damn cult symbol. if I remember correctly it's a very dumb "there's <some math I'm too lazy to do> number of ways of drawing a valid pentagram but only one of them is the right answer"
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I would've considered this game possibly a 3.5 or 4 star game if the corruption aspect was at least decent. But there's really no chill. Just "X number of shields of ehhhh no no, I couldn't" and then "oh no we're fucking! OH YES WE'RE FUCKING!"