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Febui

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bro wrote a whole essay wtf
The only good reason to post early development builds of a game is to get feedback. But I can condense the funnier parts for you:
The premier good-girl type, Elira, when experiencing sex for the first time, pisses all over the player, then says "Hehe! The look on your face when I started peeing on you! Priceless." as the "acrid odor of urine" soaks into the sheets.
You find a young boy man pear creature that has been groomed and molested by his aunt and then, even if you're a usually paragon guy, tell him that he's only good for sex, he's not a real man, and that he was asking for it by having such a cute ass. And that you bet he'll enjoy being a cocksleeve and that you'll show him what a boy like him is made for. And he loves it and you fuck. It's so fucked up, I love it.
 

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There is a weird bug where sometimes the sex animations don't play and only text appear. Closing out and restarting the game fixes it though.
 

Thanna

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There is a weird bug where sometimes the sex animations don't play and only text appear. Closing out and restarting the game fixes it though.
Bro i have Restarted the game and start as Admin and it Works fine! Try it! I hope it works when noti have a second path how it can Work! With MTool and Translate with Bing!
 

starrail123

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Great game so far! A little work on the Gallery and maybe cumming scenes would be nice but so far the story is pretty cute to follow and I like everyone distinct personality. Good job!(Nvm there are a few cumming scenes)
 
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Raoddik

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Intro is still too heavy on combat while combat is at its most boring.
Yea, it's, honestly I find combat boring in most rpg makers games, but thankfully you can turn off battle animation, set speed to fastest and turn auto battle on and you will not lose at all.

I was getting ready to also post my take but this one sums it pretty well. For me the biggest problem still is how fast character development happens. Also Harry model seems to be lack some things in some animations. :p (it's female model in most isn't it? That's why he is naked in sprite but have pants in animations?)

Still like the theme and overall concept, it have potential but need a lot of work.
 
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Febui

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For me the biggest problem still is how fast character development happens.
It's a really big problem in older AI language models, they like to dip into summary and gloss over huge swaths of story. In version 0.01, I though it was just a placeholder to be like "I think I can make something, here are the broad strokes of what I'm doing" and then Sucky would go back in and actually expound on what happens during a reconstructing the town arc, rather than moving right away into something new.
And the sex scenes are all bad AI slop that invents beds that aren't there and so on.

To then make v0.02 do the exact same thing all over again and timeskip the entire story is really silly.
I could imagine Sucky rewriting the first arc to still be mostly glossed over but twice as long, and rather than much character progression, people have just come around to think he's really important and going to make a difference without having gotten quite too personal yet because he is initially closed off. Then you can get into character development slowly while still having the timeskip and sacrifice nothing.
Could even lean a bit into him being closed off and Elira having a crush but not having been able to get close, making room for a lot of the NTR potential I laid out in both my critiques.
There's bones to this.
But AI is really bad at planning and characterization. Awful at characterization. Sucky has to pull away from leaning so hard on AI to write characters or it'll keep being undeveloped and inconsistent.
 

starrail123

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Wait is this made fully by AI?
It's a really big problem in older AI language models, they like to dip into summary and gloss over huge swaths of story. In version 0.01, I though it was just a placeholder to be like "I think I can make something, here are the broad strokes of what I'm doing" and then Sucky would go back in and actually expound on what happens during a reconstructing the town arc, rather than moving right away into something new.
And the sex scenes are all bad AI slop that invents beds that aren't there and so on.

To then make v0.02 do the exact same thing all over again and timeskip the entire story is really silly.
I could imagine Sucky rewriting the first arc to still be mostly glossed over but twice as long, and rather than much character progression, people have just come around to think he's really important and going to make a difference without having gotten quite too personal yet because he is initially closed off. Then you can get into character development slowly while still having the timeskip and sacrifice nothing.
Could even lean a bit into him being closed off and Elira having a crush but not having been able to get close, making room for a lot of the NTR potential I laid out in both my critiques.
There's bones to this.
But AI is really bad at planning and characterization. Awful at characterization. Sucky has to pull away from leaning so hard on AI to write characters or it'll keep being undeveloped and inconsistent.
Wait what do you mean Ai? Is the dialogue made by ai or something? Aswell as the animations if so that's a huge turn off.
 

Febui

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Is the dialogue made by ai or something? Aswell as the animations if so that's a huge turn off.
The preview images aren't wrong, and it is animated in-game, plus the dev has made stuff with whatever that program is before, so I don't think AI is involved there. Look at the previews and decide for yourself if that's something you're fine with.
A lot of the text is written by AI. How much exactly, I can't be sure, as there are many many capitalization and punctuation errors you can see from my big post on the previous page. But without a doubt much of it is, with common pitfalls therein. Feel free to look at my other post:
The green grime I mentioned before still lets you walk onto walls
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Intro is still too heavy on combat while combat is at its most boring. But the infinite looting was fixed
The "enought" typo was missed, but the capitalization was fixed.
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When the old man walks off after the four month time skip, the text does not play until he is off the screen. That's a long walk. Harven should turn around and do his "......." while the old man is still walking away so it's not such a long delay.
Elira when you are talking to the smith. "And I start to believe that maybe we can do this really rebuild everything, piece by piece." Needs a comma between this and rebuild. "maybe we can do this, really rebuild everything, piece by piece."
There are other comma errors here and there, but... eh.
In the journal in the house "Devouring life before life devours us. lira doesn't know." Elira

The game still glosses over too much character development for my liking. You do a bunch of poorly designed combat encounters and then four months skip and everyone loves you, you're journaling about how you're a changed man, there's still that prideful demon inside you, and you have to keep your guard up to protect everyone. The journal also has an AI feel to it, which is strange what with all the missing commas and the lira error. This date scene with Kaelara also feels very AI. Again odd because it has errors I don't think AI would do.
", exposing her swollen clit. his touch, seeking more friction." His touch is the start of a new sentence, "his" should be capitalized. The comma after touch is entirely needless. It's also just weird flow. I wouldn't say seeking more friction here, it's an unpleasant wording and he doesn't even amp up the friction as it immediately leads to "slow, teasing circles around the bud" so no. There's a figurative sense of friction but that doesn't work here either. Seeking more friction is also repetitive, as the sentence after it says it again. At least in the second instance it does make a lot more sense.
There's a lot of "He does X, detailing. He does Y, detailing. He does Z, detailing. Could help to using some more simple single-clause phrases in here, and other notes about the event besides the actions taken. Maybe another complex sentence but not the same structure as the usual.
It just becomes a bit of a drag to read sentences built the same way over and over. It changes up a bit after the animation starts, but then it still has that lingering AI touch of "absolutely everything must have additional qualifiers. Every time. Always add a dependent clause."
It looks like the scene repeated the same text of "Just then, a rustling sound comes from nearby." about the teen watching, but it may have just been a brief rendering hiccup. Does happen sometimes, I won't repeat the scene just to check.
The tone and pacing of the Kaelara relationship does just especially feel off to me.
The obscene sound of flesh slapping against flesh is repeated (chose to invite the teen to join)
I think it just repeated "spent cock slipping from her thoroughly used pussy" too.
A little hard since I didn't expect repetition like that and there's no button to pull up text logs. RPGmaker does have that feature possible, you should add it. Aside from helping with checking repeated lines, it also would let people check something they accidentally skipped, or something they didn't pay attention to.
Okay, it all felt like AI, but this is 100% definitely AI now. We're in a grassy area by a fence next to the tower and Kaelara says "I could feel him shaking the whole bed"
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She's still there.

Elira giftgiving.
"You didn't just give me a gift you reminded me" comma between gift and you. Random heart appeared on screen away from us when I kissed her, in addition to the heart that appears above her. More AI smut text that AI is not good at.
"Slowly giving her every chance to stop him—he tugs at the fastenings" wow an em-dash. Not strictly wrong, but not well fit for this. A comma is better. An em-dash is better for asides, interruptions, or a tone of suddenness. This is none of that, it's not an aside or interruption, it's directly part of the first clause, and it's not sudden, it literally says "slowly." Also needs a comma after slowly. Notably, though, if these two commas were both em-dashes, it'd actually work fine. One em-dash is wrong, but two just makes it a run-of-the-mill parenthetical "—giving her every change to stop him—"
"Her hands rise to his chest, fingers curling into the fabric of his tunic not to push him away, but to anchor herself as she leans into him." This is actually a case where a single lone em-dash worked, between tunic and not. It gives a since of interjecting to clarify this isn't to push but to anchor and that works. Though, a comma also works. One of those is needed, so pick whichever you like.
Sex already? Okay, sure, greenie is a hoe, but virtually no buildup for Elira? I go find some necklace and we fuck on the spot. The mood's not right at all. I can accept the slutty goblin, but to both completely skip over getting to know Elira for months and then also jump straight into sex with a single good gesture... It just falls flat. The player doesn't even go down on her or anything, just strips her and then flashbanged by the fucking animation at full speed. Then she turns over and is slamming her hips down like a horny slut. This animation does not have the tone of a nervous virgin giving into his advances because of trust and love, it's just right into it.
Her love value was 5 before this.
It looked like it repeated the entire text box of "His thrusts become harder, more urgent." etc
"I'm cuming. I'm cuming so hard." I think that just said cuming instead of cumming.
I can ignore how in this very early version, the text clearly talks about the bed but the sprites didn't walk over to the bed first, that's detailing and polish that comes later. But the overall pacing and how soon you get to this is poor.
" [Player] groans, his hips jerking" odd extra space before the start of the text.
"Keep peeing on my cock as I come inside you." is really such a phrase. I'm fine with her peeing, I can dig it, but the writing is weird. Also if you're usually writing cum and cumming, you shouldn't put "come" in there. It makes an inconsistent writing style. Kind of like if you were flipflopping between spellings of armor/armour, realize/realise, etc.
"his seed spurting forth, mingling with the stream of piss" But I thought he was cumming inside?
"The room is filled with the musky scent of sex and the acrid odor of urine." Okay, pee is all well and good, but the acrid odor? Come on, that's a description you give a filthy hobo shack not the post-sex bliss of your own room. Gosh, it doesn't smell of pee, it's an acrid odor. How terribly unpleasant. At least you didn't call it stench.
Player: "I never knew peeing during sex could feel so good." Makes it sound like he pissed.
Elira: "I know, right? It's like... it's like a whole new level of intimacy." My girl you were a virgin. "peeing is a whole new level" you just experienced penetration for the first time in your life, what a weird detail to talk about. Why is this conversation happening. The pissing herself during the climax of the scene doesn't need a "Well that just happened" we can just ignore it and focus on the intimacy of having sex for the first time. It's a pretty big moment for a lot of people. Or, I don't know, maybe she could be more bashful about it. Did she just always have a piss kink she was waiting to reveal? We this was she was thinking about leading up to the sex?
"(giggling) And the look on your face when you felt my pee gushing all over your cock... priceless!" WHAT IS THIS TONE. Priceless. Such an untraditional, quirky girl. So quirky! Only the most goofy and fun-loving young girl is going to give her virginity to someone so important to her and then be like "hehe you were so surprised when I peed on you! the look on your face! haha"
I expect this kind of pillowtalk either after sex has become a much more typical experience or with a character that doesn't put any emotional weight into their virginity at all. The kind that just gets giddy to try something new or is so abundantly nervous that she makes jokes during the entire experience to (poorly) diffuse her own tension. But the tone at the start, while too soon, was at least trying a more emotional atmosphere. This is just weird.

Moving onto the forest
"If your guild is so great, why don't you go clear out the real threats? The ones you can't just 'take care of' with a sword?" huh what. They're a merc guild, why would you expect them to take care of problems that aren't met with a sword?
"Exactly, You've been clearing small fries, while the real monsters are out there, waiting." Lowercase the You've. Also, this still sounds like something you can take care of with a sword.
The player really comes of uncharming. And this conversation feels like spinning wheels through mud. Does my character even have any idea what else this guild could be doing? He's vagueposting! "Why don't you clear real threats?" "We can and are." "Oh yeah, why don't you take on the real threats instead of hiding." "We're not hiding and we beat a lot of stuff." "You think that's impressive?" Is my character autistic? God he's such a loser. Why did my choices lead to me being so intensely unlikable? I'm a paragon. The choice was "Nah, I'm good, and so are they" declining the guild offer. The other choice is "Join your little guild?" And sure, yeah, "little guild" sounds condescending, I'm not surprised I say something prickish but that was a lot and it was so charmless.

I expect these west-Avalon people to be a crazy cult right from the start. Everyone standing up immediately welcoming us as we enter and talking so calmly. But the exposition is clumsy. Would be better to explain less and imply more.
Elira all "That guy's a pervert, I don't like this place, we should go" like come on, that's not the quirky whacky girl I know.
"[Player]nodded," missing space between the player's name and nodded.
There is too much text going into the inner thoughts of and how this place is weird. Would be better to minimize that. Most text should be interaction with NPCs and party members, not what the player-character is thinking. Let the person playing organically conclude "yeah this is weird" instead of telling them "yeah you think this is weird"
"[Player]'s turned away slightly" erroneous 's
Harry telling me his aunt touches him and my character replies "That's... wrong, No one should make you feel like that," Lowercase the No. I'm such a weird inconsiderate and dimwitted cunt sometimes that I'm surprised I'd react "That's... wrong". I'd expect something more neutral like "Yeah that's not normal, these people strange" and it'd feel plenty at-home to also say "Get over it. What are you, gay?" after that weirdly aggressive ashen guild incident.
I get so many choices that are be nice or be a prick, maybe add that as an option there.
"Stronger than me, and he doesn't take kin" cuts off through the bounds of the text box.
Tomas doesn't turn around to face me when talking.
"That's what keeps us strong" missing a period
Teenage boy Rico
"Aelthar waited until the boy stopped" who. Who the hell is Aelthar? The default name is "None"
"You're good, How long" lowercase the How.

"We need to figure out what this family thing is before we become a part of it" or we could just walk away. I think better would be if Elira wants to just leave and not linger at all, uncomfortable, but the player character wants to learn more, which she disagrees with and his reasoning can be some vaguery that does not put Elira at ease, as he isn't telling real truth which is that he wants to investigate what his sister, Sophinia, is doing with these people. Harry being not so uncomfortable and seemingly just fine with being molested while clearly not actually understanding it would add to the vibes. A place that you know is really off, but no one there minds, and Elira just wants to get away from them because as fucked as that might be, they're surviving and they're happy and the world is too much a wreck to meddle in peoples' beliefs. I like the very minor conflict that would add. Showing that th eplayer is still holding back secrets about who he is and his companions follow him but don't totally agree since the he doesn't give great reasons.
Kaelara "Don't tell me to calm down That old man with the girl?" Period after down. Kaelara doesn't need a change. A good counter-balance to a potentially reticent Elira. Bash some heads, queen.
"He just stared at the food, t
hen at the people..." Newlined in the wrong place. Also way too many "..." in this entire script. Everyone snoozes in the middle of talking, like come on, wake up, Sara. "Our bond... our family." Really hammers home a kind of super low-energy droning behavior I guess. More like zombies than fanatics.
"[Player] exchanged alook with Elira and Kaelara" a look
"Mom, What abour me?" lowercase the What
"let's wait a little longer until your sister is a bit older" Sara that girl is more than old enough for this cult's vibes. I sense weak leadership. I sense cowardice.
"The meat teastes... weird, but it's delicious" oh on top of all the incest it's also cannibalism? Is that what we're doing?
"Alright, Let's do it." Lowercase let's
Finding Lion and his little sister I guess. "Guess it's fine, then We've been" missing period after then. Oh he wants Elira. Sure, I'll borrow his sister and swing a bit.
"I'm... interested in her. Just this one time. It doesn't have to mean anything." Weird, I feel like it'd be more persuasive to tell Elira to play along because they need to stay trusted a bit longer. Also repetition of the text boxes. Elira should be against it but be convinced with as much as "you can just use your hands, maybe your mouth, he shouldn't last long, and I'm here, don't worry." While she stays very uncomfortable but compliant.
" Lion sensing the unease in the air, seemed to feed off it" missing a comma after Lion and there seems to be an extra space before Lion. Also it's pretty rote structure I'd think "Lion seemed to feed off the unease in the air," would be better.
Mistook Lion and Rico, though this was going to be the sister too young for marriage. Oh well.
"hungry gaze" everything is so hungry in this game. Hungry walls, hungry grip, hungry gaze, hungry kiss.
"Your dick feels so good, mister" missing period. Unless you meant to say "mister Big Bro" which would be silly
"She leaned in closer,
her breath hot against his ear as she whispered" Why the new line there? Looks odd how much empty space the first line has. Also add a comma after whispered since it is a dialog tag.
Even though in this save, Elira is a virgin, I do just look over and see her getting fucked with 0 fanfare. Even if I did fuck her, I'd think she'd try harder to get him off as impersonally as she can, avoiding intercourse if possible. She was clearly not interested. And even if I was a corrupt bastard pushing her to go all the way, she should be putting it off throughout the ordeal, hoping Lion wouldn't want to go that far.
"Lion, a cruel smile playing on his lips, He positioned her" The capitalization is wrong, but the sentence is poorly structured in general. Should be more like "A cruel smile curled along his lips as Lion positioned her"
I think Elira suddenly went from naked to having her dress on.
Another angle change, this time with a white dot on the screen signalling the start of the loop.
"his fingers dug into her" capitailze His.
"As Elira rode lion with abandon," capitalize Lion
"Tight, So fucking tight." Either change the comma to a period or lowercase so.
"he grunted, his fingers digging" Capitalize He.
"Good thing I used this purification charm to erase his cum from inside me" like what a weird contrivance. Also the text says "I erased his cum from inside me, No trace. No risk." Change the comma to a period.
Elira of course does not acknowledge that she lost her virginity.
"Come on, Let's finish" lowercase let's
Declining the sex. "booooooring, ut hey, at least" but hey
"Well, You two should go" lowercase you.
"And it wasn't just animal meat. Bones, too small to belong to any beast," Mice? Squirrels? Frogs? What am I even supposed to make of that statement? I can't even imagine what those bones look like to be too small to be an animal. I feel like the game is alluding to human children or babies, but human bones are bigger than a lot of other animals'. Rabbit bones would be smaller than a child's. Lots of people hunt rabbits. There's also bird bones.
The doll soaked in blood and semen amuses me.
"Inside the barrel... was meat." I really don't need narration throwing "..." at me like this. With how much the script overuses it in general, I have to ask what the purpose is here. Dramatic tension? We're in a room caked so densely in blood that it blocks pathing on the floor in some places. Meat and stench is everywhere. Neither character here is shocked that there's meat in this bucket. It's almost as if an AI wrote it.
Also what they ate earlier can't be human meat because it tasted weird and bad. Humans have a very tasty red meat that is like beef in the leaner muscle and pork in the fattier bits. Though I suppose given the context, the meat would have to be very heavily stewed to be easy to chew and the might be shit cooks that end up with dry-tasting flavorless meat you need lots of spices to compensate for. It'd make some sense.
"Kaelara's eyes widened in shock. Aelthar said nothing." WHo fUck is Aelthar. (I know)
I can forgive or end them all. Obviously I'm a cunt, I'm forgiving them so I can make use of this. Though I won't trust them, since it could be a ruse by Sophiana just to fuck with me, but I'm arrogant enough to think I can spot anything dangerous and put an end to it. And if it's not a ruse... All the better for me.
"You've fallen into darkness, but that doesn't mean you have to stay there. No more eating humans. No more inbreeding, twisted prayers, or worship through pain." You FOOL what are you doing. They're already indoctrinated into it by Sophiana, this is too stark of a change and if it goes against the goddess they worshiped so far, it calls into question that goddess. And if that goddess was false, why would they trust the player, who they only think of as a god because of Sophiana? Only to trick him. The only way to work with these fanatics is to moderate their insanity, not forbid it. No human meat, and no arranged marriage, under the guise that a god in flesh should be enough to draw in followers and they don't need force. When really the purpose of the moderation is because you disagree with them doing it.
Elira and Kaelara should both strongly oppose letting them persist like this.
Another time skip already?
Harry: "You save gave us a life again."
"He looked up at Aelthar with a pleading expression." The default name isn't even Aelthar, it was "None".
"New Party Member Joined: Haary Hamilton"
You say there's a timeskip, but the person playing the game only just got out of a basement filled with blood and gore and a cum-soaked children's toy. It's too abrupt that Sara is so wistful and sentimental. "it's hard to believe what I used to be. What we used to be. Monsters that hunted humans....." and so on. Pacing is so whack.
I also expected the Mr. None to play along with the god thing but brush it aside to his companions as just the cult's delusions they can exploit to turn things around. He just didn't strike me as that open about things.
Woah. Irene just ceased to be entirely. Talked to her and then she's gone. Other people didn't vanish after talking, so I didn't expect that.
"a new shortbow might be good for him, Light, easy to handle...." Probably meant the comma after him to be a period.
So amusing how the player-character is shocked and appalled at the incest and now here I am like "Do you think about rubbing my cock, Harry? You like it? Fuck you're really asking for it with that cute ass."
I have no idea how old this softboy is. The younger, the funnier this is. "Bet you'd like getting used as a cocksleeve" like damn man, you're aggressive. Why does Mr. Aelthar None act so forward so suddenly with the grooming victim.
"the dirty, implications heavy words" remove implications. For one, it grammatically doesn't fit, but also I just told this "kid"(as people call him) that he'd enjoy being a cocksleeve and he's asking for it with that ass of his. This is not implicit, this is overtly explicit and direct.
It's all again like the first two companions. The relationship is really badly paced and the characterization just isn't good.
"young man's ass" I guess "kid" is not literal, or you told chatGPT he's a young and effeminate man so that it wouldn't complain at you about it and then forgot to edit the man back to boy after copying it.
Also calling his ass globes? Damn boy, why you so caked up. I expected a soft but modestly small ass. Which would be a good difference from the girls. A nice butt, but not a big butt. Most the women I'm sure will be stacked, I want variety.
"His fingers dug in harder, Short nails biting" lowercase short. Why do you have this recurring habit of capitalizing after a comma?
"You're just asking for a real man to come along and claim you, to show you wha ta boy like you is made for." God I love how fucked up that is. His aunt touching him inappropriately and the cult forcing him to marry her, the boy is a victim of grooming and molestation and you're out here saying he's not a real man and sex is what a boy like him is made for. It's so fucked up to say that. It's hilarious.
"No ones ever touched me like this before..." untrue, slut, your whore aunt did since she knew you were made for this
"He licked into every corner, tasting the lingering sweetness of the treat Harry had eaten earlier, now mingling with the sharp, masculine flavormouth." What a weird sentence. Flavormouth isn't a thing though.
"I could feel you getting hard, little one..." You call him a younger man, but I don't think man is right, I think it's gotta be boy.
"I've never been kissed like that before." What did Irene even do?
"his half-hard cock twitching in his ." pants
Damn he do have a fat dumpy and childbearing hips. Which is a real shame. This pear-shaped body just ain't right on a boy. He must be inbred already. Maybe Irene was his aunt and mother. That'd explain a lot of things.

This post is very long and I'm tired now. I'll stop playing, maybe wait for the next update.
As a whole, I think there's too much text. Which might seem crazy, since the text is what I care about the most, but so much is AI-style slop with repetition, excessive extra detailing, and padding, without actually adding characterization or plot where it is needed. You could cut the wordcount in half and lose nothing. And that's bizarre because so much stuff is missing. There's little development in the characters going on, the plot with the cult was really short to the point that a timeskip feels unearned. It grants this sense of blazing through the timeline of things without much happening. This cult is right on the avalon camp doorstep. We didn't travel way out into the woods for this. We had a 4 month timeskip, walked outside, and immediately got another 1 month timeskip. Abrupt.
And the cult is fine now? They just abandoned Sophiana? We gloss over, like, everything that could be interesting. I feel like we skipped a story arc here. And it was about Sophiana, this could have been really plot-relevant. But nothing important happened. We find crazy cultists, redeem them, take their boytoy for ourselves, and that's it. And all so frictionless.
What does Sophiana even want?
It could have been a more dramatic thing. Like as Sophiana has been watching the past several months of Mr. Aelthar None building a following and getting the town fixed up, she does the same thing with these cultists. And rather than the town being all idyllic and hunkydory, the cult has established themselves well enough to start hunting for humans from the town. Some forager in town goes missing. Maybe someone goes out looking for them. They go missing. What the fuck happened? The player and his companions go out searching and they eventually find the cult not quite so on-the-doorstep, but further into the woods. They don't yet know the cult took the villagers, but something is clearly way off because they're fixated on this concept of family. Elira doesn't like it, and Kaelara wants to bash them, but one of the cultists mention Sophiana. Your companions don't know the importance of that name, but you do. So under some guise that "They could have something to do with the disappearance of [forager] and [other person], we need to just play along and investigate," he convinces the girls to bare with it. Broad strokes, same thing happens, but now it's more of a natural evolution of the story and also puts a weight behind Sophiana. Because now it's basically Aelthar's fault. Sophiana manipulated these people as a ploy, a fun run-around to just prove how much better she is at controlling people than Aelthar is, and those villagers are dead because Aelthar is secretly the brother of the goddess. That's some dramatic touch and you don't need to exposit much about it at all. This can be a lot of subtext, not explicitly explained.
And that also gives more justification for sparing the cultists. Something Elira and Kaelara should still be very off-put by and disagree with, but Aelthar as a paragon knows it's his fault this happened and they were manipulated by his sister, it's his responsibility to steer them right, while a bastard Aelthar knows they're still useful, and his sister is arrogant enough to abandon them and leave them to him, then he'll exploit that.
And it can be a ruse too. But no timeskip. The player actually taking some time to connect with these people and when Sophiana wants to turn around and backstab him, there are cultists that put a stop to the ruse. The Cult arc finally climaxing with Aelthar firmly established as able ot take charge beat back Sophiana's influence. Sara should still listen to Sophiana and be the keystone to the backstab, and have to be inprisoned or killed as a result. You didn't take everyone's hearts, just enough that Sara couldn't get away with turning the tables.
And then there could be a dramatically tense scene where the player is admitting to the girls that Sara's claims were true. Sophiana did speak to her and in fact he is—or was—a god. The truth of the matter sinks in with the girls. They understand that that means his presence in their town may be explicitly the reason the cult killed those two people. He made himself off to be Avalon's savior while secretly drawing the eye of something much worse. But he isn't damning them. The girls won't blame him because without him the townsfolk would be huddled in a cellar waiting to starve. They know if Aelthar rolled over and just perished, the world would be just as bad or worse, and Sophiana could turn out to revel in cruelty completely unchecked. The girls stand with him.
Chapter end, all tightly wrapped up.

And the relationship pacing of Elira needs a much heavier rewrite, but so much of how to do it depends on what you as the writer (if you are one) wants out of her character. All the smut needs work.
Mechanically, the game is so very very far from good gameplay, but I'm less concerned about that, myself. I think plotting out the story and events is more important and then adjust the stats, number of enemies, equipment, and so on later.
 
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The preview images aren't wrong, and it is animated in-game, plus the dev has made stuff with whatever that program is before, so I don't think AI is involved there. Look at the previews and decide for yourself if that's something you're fine with.
A lot of the text is written by AI. How much exactly, I can't be sure, as there are many many capitalization and punctuation errors you can see from my big post on the previous page. But without a doubt much of it is, with common pitfalls therein. Feel free to look at my other post:
Oh thank you very much for the insight! Hmm I gotta rethink if this game good engouh hopefully the game maker improves a lot.
 

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Two problems. One if you try to let the dude live in the old tower when KB and Harry are in your party he can't leave because he tries to walk through them forcing you to kill him if you want to progress. Secondly I think the "goblin" model is a little lackluster. She's an odd color and you can't even see her goblin ears at all. I also wish sex scenes had sound effects because silence isn't great.
 
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the fuck? there are actual branching paths? When I killed the villagers I thought it would be a dead end
 

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I'd like a response from the dev about my critiques. Obviously there will be a lack of polish in an early build, but broader elements of the design have problems that run deep and exactly how to fix them depends on what the creator is wanting to get out of these characters and plots.
I feel like if the dev did reply, they'd openly admit AI wrote it all; but, everything the AI wrote is what the dev read and said "yep, that's good. There is nothing wrong, this is what I like and is in line with what I want."
Either that or he's a grifter using AI to churn out 3 different games at once to see which one is the moneymaker. But I give benefit of the doubt.

I want the issues acknowledged, the direction he's going clarified, and some idea of what he is working to accomplish over the coming updates.
 
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The preview images aren't wrong, and it is animated in-game, plus the dev has made stuff with whatever that program is before, so I don't think AI is involved there. Look at the previews and decide for yourself if that's something you're fine with.
A lot of the text is written by AI. How much exactly, I can't be sure, as there are many many capitalization and punctuation errors you can see from my big post on the previous page. But without a doubt much of it is, with common pitfalls therein. Feel free to look at my other post:
You don't have any actual evidence it's AI and AI wouldn't make those mistakes. He's probably just ESL especially considering that he's making everything else himself. At the very most he could be using AI to translate from his native language but other than that saying it's written by AI without any basis just makes you an asshole so why would he ever respond to all that essay of paranoid ramblings?

You're also applying extremely high standards to something like he's trying to make a generational masterpiece but most people don't view games this way especially not porn games. If you want to make some deep lore perfect porn game you're free to do it but forcing these standards on other people when most people aren't looking that deep is just weird.

Lastly saying using AI to make multiple games at once is a "grift" is funny. There's nothing wrong with using AI and we don't judge here because this is a piracy site. Most patreon games are grifts to begin with as they're designed to never end and continue making money unlike Japanese devs who finish their games. How about you take the time you're using to whine about some dev not meeting your standards and maybe using AI to translate and make your own game. It'd be far more productive than complaining about someone else's projects.
 

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"Small" update. Recommended to start a new game. Alright, let's see how things are a month since the last update. I won't have expectations for new stuff or huge overhauls, just looking at fixes and polishing
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Grime on the walls no longer traversible, but not the grime on the floor also isn't traversible.
Enemy spam reduced in the early game! It's much less ridiculous and grindy to push through the effortless, boring mooks. Exact numbers to tweak for the right pacing can come later, at any time.
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giftu? Should be gift, with a comma. Or an em-dash. It does fit quite well there. she'll grant us a powerful gift—one beyond anything we could imagine.
"Your kind has done enough damage.... but you can help fix it." bleeds off the edge of the text box. There are too many ellipses in this, so you can fix it best by just changing "..." to a comma.
"They call you the Black Flame." There's a definite "but why" to that name, and I don't really care. Makes no sense, but keep it. Keep it because I watched the anime Chuunibyou and their example of raw tweenage cringe was a boy giving himself the title "Dark Flame Master" and I appreciate it.
Like, what does it even mean? You are not the light, but you burn and destroy just as intensely as fire. Black Flame. You are just a cunt that destroys stuff. That's your title.
"He did wipe out an entire monsters with one swing." Nothing about that makes sense. Even if you correct the grammar "He did wipe out an entire monster den with one swing," he didn't do that. Many swings. Maybe a "one fell swoop" kind of thing? Maybe "in a single day"? In any case "an entire monsters" is wrong, monster den is probably what you want.
I think I saw talking to Elira and asking about her story had a comma and "What's" after. But no rolling back
Sex with Elira still comes way way too suddenly with no build up. First kiss into first fuck sentences apart. Even graphically, from nothing to full speed intercourse.
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These grass tiles are supposed to be like broken holes in the tower, I guess? Looks bad, but whatever.
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It said I needed a lockpick, so I went a bought one, and I come back and now I can't interact with this chest at all. Bug. Loaded save from before I saw the chest and bought the lockpick first, opened it. Not exploring the tower. I'll grab Harry first so he can eat up the EXP there.

In the cult.
Kaelara is too thoughtful and composed about her doubts. It just doesn't really fit. A lot of characters talk the same way as each other. She should probably be more crass and forward. She's a goblin with an axe. Every character has poor characterization.
Kaelara: "Can you blame them? The gods vanished, and the world went straight to hell. If I were a mortal, I'd stop praying too." But isn't she a mortal? Not a human, a goblin, but since when are goblins immortal? I suppose in some games they don't age. She should probably say "If I were a human,"
Talking to Harry. Elira says "That's... wrong, No one should make you feel like that," that's a good solution. It sounded wrong coming from the player-character, but Elira would say it. Still, need to lowercase the "No one" since that's a comma. Or change the comma to a period, that'd also work.
Harry: "He's obsessed with the family thing, too,and I'm" missing space after too,
"He's... powerful. Stronger than me, and he doesn't take kin" cuts off the rest of kindly.

There's too much "..." in this script, but it's been improved a lot on several fronts. Shorter, tighter, fewer errors.

I think the animations in the Lion/Viola scene are new? I do like that it shifts from Lion licking Elira to them being in the background as it shows Viola riding the MC. There are two white dots there, for whatever reason. Light sources for the scene?
"Viola's eyes gleamed with a fiece, predatory hunger as she watched the scene unfold, still moving atop N[1] with relentless rhythm." N[1]
"N[1] watched, stunned" Obviously it's the name of actor 1, but I don't know the syntax you need to fix that.
Aw. Lion still goes right to full speed fucking Elira with no fanfare. I expected a virgin Elira to try harder to avoid this, but even so, if there would be sex, it'd be given more weight at the moment penetration begins. She can like it if that's what you want to have happen, but putting more momentum in that first moment of penetration does a lot.
"I erased his cum from inside me, No trace." Change comma to period.
"Come on, Let's finish" lowercase Let's
Bones being too small to be an animal got fixed. Now it's properly too human to mistake.
Elira: "You think survival means losing your humanity? You're wron" cuts off the edge of the text box.
End of the cult has a lead-in to more.
"I'll carve the truth from her mouth if I have to." Carve? I don't know about that one. Pry, pull, or tear maybe, but "carve" is more for imposing something onto something else, not drawing a thing out. Grammatically all fine though.
"What are you hiding from me? from us?" Should be "From us?" since it follows after a question mark.
No femboy if you spare the cult? Need to wait 7 days. I wonder if that's outside the content of the update and you have to kill them to get Harry early.
Oh, the Ashen Guild guy that hangs out outside the cult place disappears if you didn't talk to him before going in. I was going to see if I could tell him his friend was inside the cult and butchered. Well, whatever.

The story has better continuity to it now, and I'm glad there wasn't another time-skip immediately like before. The early-game enemy spam was trimmed down. Several things fixed.
Characterization is a little bit better, but still a weak point.
The pacing of relationships is still very bad, which is what matters most for me as an NTR fan.

I was hoping to get a reply getting into what exactly Sucky wants here. I think Elira going whacky and quirky was evidently not the desired result, and she is intended to be a more "conservative good-girl" type of character, but who's to say, really. I don't know what's intended with the story, so I don't know how well it is accomplishing that goal.
Maybe I'll continue later, see what happens if I sleep 7 times. I can't sleep in my own house? Neither bed did anything. I have to pay to sleep at the inn? Or is it a fake "seven days" and what it really means is that it happens when other side-stuff has been completed? Some games do that. I'll find out next time, perhaps.
 

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that essay of paranoid ramblings?
It was a 5000 word critique of the English errors, design errors, bugs, and pacing.
You're also applying extremely high standards
I did not say I expected perfection, I didn't apply a standard at all. I pointed out English mistakes without judgement and was more about subjective opinion when it came to broader, non-technical concepts, like how the relationships are paced and what the story is doing.
forcing these standards
I'm not a mod, I'm not managing a store, I have no power to say "this isn't good enough, so it doesn't get to be here." I just point out mistakes, review things, and people take it or leave it. People who don't care just ignore it, like you should.
There's nothing wrong with using AI and we don't judge here
I wouldn't play AI-tagged games if I thought AI was inherently an issue. I judge it for the problems AI have, like broad logical errors and over-inclination to summarize. And if it isn't AI, it still has those errors. Sucky certainly can say "I didn't use AI, I just wanted to skip to the good stuff. I just forgot I places this scene in the grass. I just like piss and didn't think about the tone." Sucky could even say "I want to think more about my other game's writing and this is more slapdash and for-fun."
It'd be far more productive than complaining about someone else's projects.
What do you think this forum is even for? There's even a review/rating system. This is a place where you are supposed to say what you'd like about any given project, and even review it critically.
I would say rating it 1 star on version 0.1 for all the roughness would be jumping the shark. List the errors, see how things go, watch the updates roll out, and rate it when you have a clearer projection of how things are going.

Instead of getting triggered over someone critiquing someone else, just enjoy what you enjoy.
Tell the dev what you like about it. Say "I love how you get multiple class options right from the start," or whatever you're enjoying. Positive feedback is as valuable as critical feedback.
You don't want to be critical, that's fine. You don't care about the errors I mention, that's fine. I literally cannot stop the dev nor can I stop you. Get over yourself, man.
 
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