VN Ren'Py Echoes of 2990 [Ch.2 0.2.1] [AADev]

[Innocent->Devil]

Does anyone know the key decision to be on the harem path?

 

[Vsjs6969]

I don't care what anyone says this game is PEAK

 

[TheOneAnnOnly]

Does anyone know the key decision to be on the harem path?

the option "stay put" puts you on the harem path and "turn onto your stomach" takes you off

 

[Joey's Conscience]

Okay, I think I got all of the messages referencing the Liv scene.

Yes, the scene with Liv lactating seems to have been removed alongside the fake incest variable during your nightly visit in Chapter 1. This is most likely due to fears of the game being removed from Patreon/Itch without warning as both sites have cracked down on any form of adult content perceived as questionable (which is primarily most games shared here). Itch faced an issue back in July when they deindexed ALL NSFW projects, and even Valve faced issues around this time when Visa/Mastercard threatened to halt transactions from Steam.

I also believe a few high profile AVNs were removed from Patreon though I can't exactly remember which devs they were. Patreon typically accounts for 70%+ on average of a dev's income, so it very well might be the case that AADev is being proactive in trying to prevent their Patreon page from being nuked.

The incest aspect sure, I get that. But i've never seen a game banned over lactation content. Like it or not, I wouldn't call it "taboo" by any stretch. Just seems like the dev went overboard in his caution.

Now even if there are indeed rules against lactation on some of these sites for some reason, doesn't change the fact that if the dev is that scared of doing anything outside the basics, it makes me far less interested on this game.

 

[Tier1selection]

OK, I just started to play the new version 0.2.1 and despite the little differences in the script to the previous versions, so far so good. However, and this is a big one, the hologram of the AI (AURA) new appearance has me baffled. I mean the uniform and all is OK, but those are the weirdest tits that could have ever been drawn. It is the only thing that bothers me, besides the cuts (lactation part) but otherwise the game seems to be OK.

 

[⎰ ↜ ✰ BAD 75 ✰ ↜ ⎱]

Update Wmod-cheat
https://f95zone.to/threads/echoes-of-2990-ch-2-0-2-1-aadev.260135/post-17416001

 

[slick97]

The incest aspect sure, I get that. But i've never seen a game banned over lactation content. Like it or not, I wouldn't call it "taboo" by any stretch. Just seems like the dev went overboard in his caution.

Now even if there are indeed rules against lactation on some of these sites for some reason, doesn't change the fact that if the dev is that scared of doing anything outside the basics, it makes me far less interested on this game.

The removal of lactation is speculative on my part as it could very well just be a kink the dev didn't enjoy writing about. However, I couldn't find any mention of a reason why it was removed from the Patreon posts or on the official discord.

 

[tmihee]

The dev should really come out and say if he wants to make a femdom focused game, it seems like picking the "dom" option only leads you to lose content and nothing else, its not an actual "path" right now, seems like just a censored version of the true path that is the sub, and as someone else pointed out already, even normal responses (that seem more like the "correct" option) youd want to choose (and that earn love points), give sub points, again showing that the dev wants you to choose the sub option.

But if its going to be like that then why bother with the other route? are we ever getting exclusive maledom scenes for those choosing those options or are people who are not into licking feet or getting farted on only wasting their time with this

I know this was supposed to be a ntr game initially, so not surprised that they want the MC to be a bitch, it is just the illusion of choice that is annoying and disingenous.

Damn people like you are sooooo sensitive, "WOAH A DOMINANT FEMALE CHARACTER OH NO FEMDOM REEEE", "ANOTHER MALE CHARACTER IN MY HAREM GAME ? NTR REEEE"."EVERY FEMALE CHARACTER MUST BE SUBMISSVE TO ME AND ME ALONE"
You're such a baby, and also boring. I'm saying this as a fellow male-dom enjoyer.
There are thousands of male-dom focused game on this site, go play that instead.

All that being said the game does have problems with choices and paths (with the current system it shouldn't have been a harem game) but that wont be fixed if the criticisms u gives to the devs is pure delusion.

 

[Just Jericho]

Damn people like you are sooooo sensitive, "WOAH A DOMINANT FEMALE CHARACTER OH NO FEMDOM REEEE", "ANOTHER MALE CHARACTER IN MY HAREM GAME ? NTR REEEE"."EVERY FEMALE CHARACTER MUST BE SUBMISSVE TO ME AND ME ALONE"
You're such a baby, and also boring. I'm saying this as a fellow male-dom enjoyer.
There are thousands of male-dom focused game on this site, go play that instead.

All that being said the game does have problems with choices and paths (with the current system it shouldn't have been a harem game) but that wont be fixed if the criticisms u gives to the devs is pure delusion.

I just say be a dirty cheater. I pick mostly "dom" choices but sometimes pick the "sub" choices based on whatever sounds better at the time. Then I just fudge my variables with URM as needed to see different outcomes . In this way, the only scenes I've missed are the foot fetish scenes, which I'm more than happy to miss.

Besides, there are a lot of "dom" and "sub" choices that don't seem very well assigned. It seems sometimes dom/sub points get assigned with choices that seem more "rude vs respectful" rather than having anything to do with command, dominance, and subservience.

 

[Ronaldweasley 979]

How to get the blonde variation of Liv

 

[ChubbyFatBoy]

Damn people like you are sooooo sensitive, "WOAH A DOMINANT FEMALE CHARACTER OH NO FEMDOM REEEE", "ANOTHER MALE CHARACTER IN MY HAREM GAME ? NTR REEEE"."EVERY FEMALE CHARACTER MUST BE SUBMISSVE TO ME AND ME ALONE"
You're such a baby, and also boring. I'm saying this as a fellow male-dom enjoyer.
There are thousands of male-dom focused game on this site, go play that instead.

All that being said the game does have problems with choices and paths (with the current system it shouldn't have been a harem game) but that wont be fixed if the criticisms u gives to the devs is pure delusion.

....what does that have to do with what he said? Either the points made are right or their wrong. Do the options lead to what he said or don't they? What does that have to do with being "sensitive"? Also iirc, there was originally going to be NTR in the game. So this whole post is just weird. Like if we gonna start pointing out child like behavior. Yours would be a more fitting place to start.

 

[datguy0115]

What do I need to do so that when jumping from the stone arch I can select the option “jump from the highest point”? I always get the message “Not available.” I feel like I’ve tried everything, including using the cheat mod to increase all the stats one by one to see if that would make it work, but even then I couldn’t find any way.
Has the dev simply not finished that part yet, or am I doing something wrong?

 

[e6mill]

What do I need to do so that when jumping from the stone arch I can select the option “jump from the highest point”? I always get the message “Not available.” I feel like I’ve tried everything, including using the cheat mod to increase all the stats one by one to see if that would make it work, but even then I couldn’t find any way.
Has the dev simply not finished that part yet, or am I doing something wrong?

Have enough Str I think.

 

[Saphfire]

This is, hands down, the most promising SciFi VN i´ve ever seen.

 

[tmihee]

....what does that have to do with what he said? Either the points made are right or their wrong. Do the options lead to what he said or don't they? What does that have to do with being "sensitive"? Also iirc, there was originally going to be NTR in the game. So this whole post is just weird. Like if we gonna start pointing out child like behavior. Yours would be a more fitting place to start.

Like i said the points system in the game is fucked up but its was made very clear that Amina and Veronica is 2 dominant characters so if the MC wants to be close with them early on they have to be a sub (that doesnt mean that they cant be with them later on, its still a harem game), but they are still Dom stuff that the player can have with those two.
The delusion here is thinking that the game is actively against Dom players and it's a femdom game in disguised while in fact in this very update there's a harem scene that requires you to have 10+ Dom points and 88-iq so there is content locking behind both path
Sub gets 2 scenes this update and Dom/Harem 1, both required sufficient points to unlock
Sub gets 3 LIs (Amina,Veronica,Liv?) Dom gets 3 (Talia,Aura,Kim) and Ana is both maybe?, so they are pretty equally split so the claim that Sub path is the true path is also pure delusion
The "normal" respond that gives sub points and affection points is because THEY ARE DOMINANT CHARACTERS ??? so they obviously gonna respond better to those dialogue. What does that have to do with "the game originally being an NTR game and the dev want the MC to be a bitch" that just sound like projection.
Maybe the guy just really likes Veronica and he really dont like femdom (which is fair you dont have to like everything) but everything that he said is just plain wrong
Maybe i sound too heated in the first comment but i've seen these kind of thing in every harem game's thread and its just get tiring. It just sound to me like the classic "this is a harem game and MC in a harem game must be a dom nomatterwhat and i can get every girl i want from the start" speak

Lastly i dont like the point system in this game either (even tho it has potential)
This point system is more akin to a single LI system not a harem game so i do kinda agree with the original guy comment
But that does not mean that the game is actively working against them or their kinks

 

[Shadowcrow]

The removal of lactation is speculative on my part as it could very well just be a kink the dev didn't enjoy writing about. However, I couldn't find any mention of a reason why it was removed from the Patreon posts or on the official discord.

Damn, really they removed lactation?
That's what caught my interest with the game, played through a couple of times looking for the scene but now I know why I couldn't find it anywhere.

Shame, hopefully the dev puts it back in later, the game is looking pretty good and interesting so far.

 

[holaje12]

What does that have to do with "the game originally being an NTR game and the dev want the MC to be a bitch" that just sound like projection.

You didnt disagree with anything I said, you are just bitching about a perceived attack agaisnt ntr. That this was going to be a ntr game is a fact that the dev himself admitted when this first dropped, and a sub bitch MC is more fitting for that kind of content, that is just a fact.

The point system is just badly implemented if delivering normal responses give sub points, it doesnt matter who LI the MC is interacting with at that moment, thats just dumb.

And if having half the cast being locked behind the sub options isnt a femdom focused game, then what is. To me that clearly points to femdom being a BIG part of the game, and the game forces you to take those choices if you want to have any content with those characters, at least so far, and I doubt the dev will ever have the time to deliver 1 fem + 1 dom option for every scene anyway so he is just shooting himself in the foot with this if he thinks he will be able to do that.


Either way, that is a lot for a game that DOESNT EVEN HAVE THE FEMDOM TAG, either in the actual tags or in the planned section in OP.
So how can you blame a player for disliking the prevalence of femdom content in the game or content locked behind it when he wasnt even warned that it was going to be in the game

"Forge a new world, connect with alien civilizations, and carve your legacy — as a king, a conqueror… or the heart of a harem " that doesnt really make me think about a MC groveling and kissing someone's feet.

Not to mention that this whole separate path dom/fem LIs is retarded for a harem game.

In the end, all I said is that the dev should be clear about what his game is about, and gave criticism about the problems with the points/locked scenes, I didnt ask for it to be tailor made for my tastes.

but you come with retarded shit like "WOAH A DOMINANT FEMALE CHARACTER OH NO FEMDOM REEEE", "ANOTHER MALE CHARACTER IN MY HAREM GAME ? NTR REEEE"."EVERY FEMALE CHARACTER MUST BE SUBMISSVE TO ME AND ME ALONE", and then personal attacks like some redditor or emotionally unstable toddler, so how can I even take you seriously

 

[godscoper]

I agree with this. The sub/dom or affection +/- is still very misleading with the newest update.
Hopefully, down the road, with future updates or dev explaining/re-doing parts, the sub/dom paths will have a better understanding and improve.

Like, if the player is currently doing a dom path, it will be in future updates, with "Amina, Veronica, Liv" (only on the sub route) being changed, and MC will be able to make them summit or just affection.

Same with sub-only route/ mixed route. Future updates, MC (players) will like being femdom

Unless it's not an actual harem-type game, here, only 3-4 girls are in a harem compared to everyone.
Do I have to go the sub route with Amina, Veronica, or Liv?
Or do the dom route with Talia, Aura, and Kim

 

[Sneak Monkey]

It's tagged as a Harem, but you can't pursue all routes... and that's a good idea how?

 

[e6mill]

you can't pursue all routes...

Yet.
Anyway, just because you don't have every woman in the world doesn't mean it's not a harem.