VN Ren'Py Element-174 [v0.24] [Knotty Games]

[KnottyGames]

I'll jump in with some clarifications regarding the pregnancy angle. The line that's probably being referenced is during Zoey's Day 9 night scene and goes: "...I need to either get someone pregnant or cum inside someone multiple times?" To which Zoey affirms. Basically what this means is that a pregnancy is a guaranteed way to transmit the gene, but second to that is a creampie which has a 10% chance (spit-balling here, and subject to change).

There are multiple instances in week 2, where the MC sleeps with a woman and he worries that having unprotected sex might result in pregnancy. Logistically, it makes sense for him to want to guarantee spreading the gene to as many girls as possible. However, despite the bizarre events that he's constantly facing every day, he still tries to act like a regular dude. And becoming a baby-daddy to around a half dozen women simultaneously isn't something that he would look forward to... even if it saves the world.

Plus, given that the game takes place mostly in a single (crazy) month, there really isn't any time for that to take place. That doesn't mean that some of the love interests won't end up pregnant by the end of the game! But it's not really focused on or fetishized the way that creampies are in this game.

 

[Diconica]

The name of the game peaked my interest so figured I would play it.
This isn't to pick on the game. I like it in general
It is well written for the most part and the art is very good.
I'm wring this hear because I rather it be taken as advise or feedback not a review.

The reason the name peaked my interest is the periodic element 174 can't exist.
There are morons that think it might in a large gravity object like black holes but they are wrong.
For atoms to grow in size they need to also include neutrons to keep the protons from directly repelling one another.
This means the mass and size of the nucleus grows a lot. Once you get passed Calcium if I recall it starts needing more neutrons than proton. An element of 174 protons would probably need more than 200 neutrons.
This means the electrons would be pushed to far out. If even just the outer valence shell is stripped of electrons or looses them the element undergoes a coulomb explosion.
Gravity won't and can't effect the size of atoms to any great extent. It's a weak force. Even when you have enough of it concentrated to create something like a black-hole the particles in it would be more on the line of condensed plasma not elements.
Even if you could get enough gravity to create one some how it would destroy the earth if you brought it here. Outside of that gravity field it would become instantly unstable and explode. Talking massive explosion.
Consider this the amount of material used in nuclear bombs is a hell of a lot less than you see in that crystal they show. Now imagine what would be the result of it undergoing that.
There is a more definitive proof they can't exist above 137 that is the fact electrons would need to travel faster than the speed of light to not crash into the nucleus.
That said they theorized about elements up to 172.
Anyway that's the short version of why it can't exist. I could go into more detail regarding electrons their spacing and other aspects but I doubt anyone wants to read all that.

It also doesn't help miss using terms related to viral outbreaks.

If they chose element 136 or 137 then made up a method of continually re-stabilizing them over and over again to maintain its existence. At least then its in the realm of plausibility. By the way all the theoretical elements already have names. It doesn't however mean your world needs to use that name.

As for the virus terms look up the proper terms and what they mean.

If you are going to do a scifi do the leg work. That way you don't look like you have no clue what you are talking about.

 

[pythia23]

Will there eventually be a harem/polyamory route?

 

[crabsinthekitchen]

Will there eventually be a harem/polyamory route?

all 16? definitely not. 2-3 girls (sometimes more but it's probably temporary) are possible on almost every route

KnottyGames hey, I made a spreadsheet that shows which characters do not cross routes after Day 14, so it should be easier to remember that more than half of the girls are incompatible with Holmes and their routes are already closed during her future scenes

 

[KnottyGames]

all 16? definitely not. 2-3 girls (sometimes more but it's probably temporary) are possible on almost every route

Yeah and even keeping clusters of 2-3 girls open creates a lot of work for me with additional lines to code and variations on rendering. And ultimately it doesn't make sense since at the end of week 3, the MC has to choose which girl he wants to start week 4 with (and thus end the game with). Originally there was going to only be 1 final week per girl, but given that week 4 is shorter (since it only focuses on one girl), I'm leaning towards that "true route" plus an additional one. Which week 4 you enter is based on a combo of which other girls you're involved with, as well as specific choices regarding that girl.

I made a spreadsheet that shows which characters do not cross routes after Day 14, so it should be easier to remember that more than half of the girls are incompatible with Holmes and their routes are already closed during her future scenes

This is nice because it lays out specifically why each route combo becomes closed. I've been keeping a spreadsheet of my own and marking off when they become unavailable but not detailing why. I'll probably add some variation of this one to the walkthrough though.

I've done a little speedrunning to see how many active routes I can keep up to the end of week 2. I'll focus on a main girl, then prioritize girls who she shares sub-routes with, then any other girls that can be kept up along the way. For example:
Main Ash (9 pts), Sub Jenna (8), Jules (8), Penny (8), Zoey (7) [1 sub-route open + 3 non-connected routes]
Main Ash (8), Sub Jenna (8), Sub Sarah (8), Penny (7), Zoey (7) [Both sub-routes open + 2 NC routes]

In both these examples (and especially the second), the player is spread thin but it is possible to keep 5 girls routes open going into week 3. YMMV though because some are easy to run at the same time, like Zoey and Penny, while others are tougher due to the story, such as Holmes.

 

[WayonF95]

The name of the game peaked my interest so figured I would play it.
This isn't to pick on the game. I like it in general
It is well written for the most part and the art is very good.
I'm wring this hear because I rather it be taken as advise or feedback not a review.

The reason the name peaked my interest is the periodic element 174 can't exist.
There are morons that think it might in a large gravity object like black holes but they are wrong.
For atoms to grow in size they need to also include neutrons to keep the protons from directly repelling one another.
This means the mass and size of the nucleus grows a lot. Once you get passed Calcium if I recall it starts needing more neutrons than proton. An element of 174 protons would probably need more than 200 neutrons.
This means the electrons would be pushed to far out. If even just the outer valence shell is stripped of electrons or looses them the element undergoes a coulomb explosion.
Gravity won't and can't effect the size of atoms to any great extent. It's a weak force. Even when you have enough of it concentrated to create something like a black-hole the particles in it would be more on the line of condensed plasma not elements.
Even if you could get enough gravity to create one some how it would destroy the earth if you brought it here. Outside of that gravity field it would become instantly unstable and explode. Talking massive explosion.
Consider this the amount of material used in nuclear bombs is a hell of a lot less than you see in that crystal they show. Now imagine what would be the result of it undergoing that.
There is a more definitive proof they can't exist above 137 that is the fact electrons would need to travel faster than the speed of light to not crash into the nucleus.
That said they theorized about elements up to 172.
Anyway that's the short version of why it can't exist. I could go into more detail regarding electrons their spacing and other aspects but I doubt anyone wants to read all that.

It also doesn't help miss using terms related to viral outbreaks.

If they chose element 136 or 137 then made up a method of continually re-stabilizing them over and over again to maintain its existence. At least then its in the realm of plausibility. By the way all the theoretical elements already have names. It doesn't however mean your world needs to use that name.

As for the virus terms look up the proper terms and what they mean.

If you are going to do a scifi to the leg work so you don't look like you have no clue what you are talking about.

Lol call it Unseptquadium or 584Usq and dont bother..

 

[pieter de groot]

The name of the game peaked my interest so figured I would play it.
This isn't to pick on the game. I like it in general
It is well written for the most part and the art is very good.
I'm wring this hear because I rather it be taken as advise or feedback not a review.

The reason the name peaked my interest is the periodic element 174 can't exist.
There are morons that think it might in a large gravity object like black holes but they are wrong.
For atoms to grow in size they need to also include neutrons to keep the protons from directly repelling one another.
This means the mass and size of the nucleus grows a lot. Once you get passed Calcium if I recall it starts needing more neutrons than proton. An element of 174 protons would probably need more than 200 neutrons.
This means the electrons would be pushed to far out. If even just the outer valence shell is stripped of electrons or looses them the element undergoes a coulomb explosion.
Gravity won't and can't effect the size of atoms to any great extent. It's a weak force. Even when you have enough of it concentrated to create something like a black-hole the particles in it would be more on the line of condensed plasma not elements.
Even if you could get enough gravity to create one some how it would destroy the earth if you brought it here. Outside of that gravity field it would become instantly unstable and explode. Talking massive explosion.
Consider this the amount of material used in nuclear bombs is a hell of a lot less than you see in that crystal they show. Now imagine what would be the result of it undergoing that.
There is a more definitive proof they can't exist above 137 that is the fact electrons would need to travel faster than the speed of light to not crash into the nucleus.
That said they theorized about elements up to 172.
Anyway that's the short version of why it can't exist. I could go into more detail regarding electrons their spacing and other aspects but I doubt anyone wants to read all that.

It also doesn't help miss using terms related to viral outbreaks.

If they chose element 136 or 137 then made up a method of continually re-stabilizing them over and over again to maintain its existence. At least then its in the realm of plausibility. By the way all the theoretical elements already have names. It doesn't however mean your world needs to use that name.

As for the virus terms look up the proper terms and what they mean.

If you are going to do a scifi to the leg work so you don't look like you have no clue what you are talking about.

damn props for taking the time to type all this instead of playing a game from this site and relax, but will all due respect i dont understand why you would want to give a chemistry lesson on a pornsite. Its all about imagination my friend ( i quote Einstein; Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere) , same as with movies/series/shows not everything is always 100% realistic ( Marvel, DC, Starwars etc ) but thanks for you chemistry lesson you made me miss school a little less ^^

 

[Diconica]

damn props for taking the time to type all this instead of playing a game from this site and relax, but will all due respect i dont understand why you would want to give a chemistry lesson on a pornsite. Its all about imagination my friend ( i quote Einstein; Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere) , same as with movies/series/shows not everything is always 100% realistic ( Marvel, DC, Starwars etc ) but thanks for you chemistry lesson you made me miss school a little less ^^

Nuclear Physics not Chemistry. But I get your point.

I'm familiar with Einstein's quote. regarding Imagination being more important than knowledge.
In one aspect he is correct. Imagination drives progress.
However, without knowledge nothing you imagine can be implemented.
Also without knowledge you can't recognize an error in logic or understand why something you tried failed.
As Einstein implied without imagination you couldn't recognize what to do with knowledge.

The second principal of what his quote referred to was that imagination could lead to knowledge.
However, he failed to grasp without knowledge any acts derived from imagination would be fruitless in deriving knowledge without first having the knowledge to interpret it.
First we had to learn about fire, then metal working, then gun powder and down the road that lead to guns. The point is you have to have knowledge to build on for imagination to be of any use.

To me that makes them two sides of the same coin equally important.

Anyway this is now delving off the topic being related to the game. So I'll leave it at this.

 

[RoadWulf]

*looks at Character page*
*goes through all his saves to try to match up all of them*
*realizes that there is more ?'s than current characters in the game.....

Oh God no....

Btw Knotty, there's a reoccurring bug that happens if you don't have enough points with Penny. If she lives through the event and runs off, but you don't have enough points to follow her it says you go home with Zoey, but instead the Penny Ending plays.

 

[KnottyGames]

Btw Knotty, there's a reoccurring bug that happens if you don't have enough points with Penny. If she lives through the event and runs off, but you don't have enough points to follow her it says you go home with Zoey, but instead the Penny Ending plays.

Yeah, the transitions there are all out of whack. My advice is for folks to wait a bit for the update which will fix it and some of the other bugs.

 

[Cool'Thulhu]

So, after finding out that all girls have something "unnatural" going on their lives I got curious enough to try getting 100% of the scenes (even though the gallery isn't updated )
if you are curious about those secrets and don't want to do 1K playthroughs, here's my version of them :

LOTS OF SPOILERS... duh...

Zoey - Future Soldier "Sailor Moon" Edition
Chloe - "Rogue"-like (and a secret Camgirl)
Trish - Asian Kick-Ass (but with actual powers!)
Ash - Alien Tomboy
Rachel - The Cursed
Jules - Bitchy Android
Isabella - "Zombie" Fitness Freak (warning: no waterproof)
Malia - Wannabe Detective?
Jenna - Matrix Bug? (She seems to be "vanishing"... haven't figured out this one yet)
Madison - PROBABLY HIPNOTIZED/DRUGGED and pretty stupid Stripper
Penny - "Bimbo" Undercover Agent (from the FUTURE!)
Emma - Undercover Agent (from RUSSIA! probably...)
Holmes - Undercover Agent (from MIB!)
Sarah - Immortal Snoop Dogg
Katy - Possessed "Hentai" Cultist
Caroline - "Jean Grey"-like

Note 1: I initially though about making a Tier List, but I dropped the idea because I don't want to reply snowflakes that would certainly disagree with me.
Note 2: Idk how many routes you can get on the same playthrough, the most that I got was 5 (Ash, Jenna, Jules, Penny, Zoey).
Note 3: PLEASE DEV! if you read this REMOVE THE SLOW TRANSITIONS!!! or at least make them skippable (tab or ctrl)... the 1th time was OK but in 5th was a total suffering .

 

[SomeGuyWithNoImagination]

Note 1: I initially though about making a Tier List, but I dropped the idea because I don't want to reply snowflakes that would certainly disagree with me.

Well, this reply snowflake is mad that you didn't make a tier list!

 

[Pinsel]

So, after finding out that all girls have something "unnatural" going on their lives I got curious enough to try getting 100% of the scenes (even though the gallery isn't updated )
if you are curious about those secrets and don't want to do 1K playthroughs, here's my version of them :

LOTS OF SPOILERS... duh...

Zoey - Future Soldier "Sailor Moon" Edition
Chloe - "Rogue"-like (and a secret Camgirl)
Trish - Asian Kick-Ass (but with actual powers!)
Ash - Alien Tomboy
Rachel - The Cursed
Jules - Bitchy Android
Isabella - "Zombie" Fitness Freak (warning: no waterproof)
Malia - Wannabe Detective?
Jenna - Matrix Bug? (She seems to be "vanishing"... haven't figured out this one yet)
Madison - PROBABLY HIPNOTIZED/DRUGGED and pretty stupid Stripper
Penny - "Bimbo" Undercover Agent (from the FUTURE!)
Emma - Undercover Agent (from RUSSIA! probably...)
Holmes - Undercover Agent (from MIB!)
Sarah - Immortal Snoop Dogg
Katy - Possessed "Hentai" Cultist
Caroline - "Jean Grey"-like

Note 1: I initially though about making a Tier List, but I dropped the idea because I don't want to reply snowflakes that would certainly disagree with me.
Note 2: Idk how many routes you can get on the same playthrough, the most that I got was 5 (Ash, Jenna, Jules, Penny, Zoey).
Note 3: PLEASE DEV! if you read this REMOVE THE SLOW TRANSITIONS!!! or at least make them skippable (tab or ctrl)... the 1th time was OK but in 5th was a total suffering .

How, i was not aware any more, there are so many girls in the game. lol
I go only after

Zoey
Cloey
Katy
Emma
Jules
Penny
and Holmes

Caroline, Isabela and Sara are there somehow, but dont have a spezfic save

 

[RoadWulf]

Yeah, the transitions there are all out of whack. My advice is for folks to wait a bit for the update which will fix it and some of the other bugs.

Honestly my saves are weird, I always save on the face of the girl the last time you interact with her in a timeline. So some of my saves were even as far back as Day 12 because of it.

Also, can we get Zoey to shove a laser sword up Schafer's ass, because I feel like that'd be the best solution to him.

 

[crabsinthekitchen]

Honestly my saves are weird, I always save on the face of the girl the last time you interact with her in a timeline. So some of my saves were even as far back as Day 12 because of it.

Also, can we get Zoey to shove a laser sword up Schafer's ass, because I feel like that'd be the best solution to him.

Penny's spears would be better. But if not possible, there are more normal options, like asking your friendly neighborhood superhero for help. I also heard that spies are good at making people disappear

 

[SomeGuyWithNoImagination]

Here is the official walkthrough for 0.20.

 

[RoadWulf]

Penny's spears would be better. But if not possible, there are more normal options, like asking your friendly neighborhood superhero for help. I also heard that spies are good at making people disappear

It all depends on what paths cross successfully with Madison.

 

[WayonF95]

So, after finding out that all girls have something "unnatural" going on their lives I got curious enough to try getting 100% of the scenes (even though the gallery isn't updated )
if you are curious about those secrets and don't want to do 1K playthroughs, here's my version of them :

LOTS OF SPOILERS... duh...

Zoey - Future Soldier "Sailor Moon" Edition
Chloe - "Rogue"-like (and a secret Camgirl)
Trish - Asian Kick-Ass (but with actual powers!)
Ash - Alien Tomboy
Rachel - The Cursed
Jules - Bitchy Android
Isabella - "Zombie" Fitness Freak (warning: no waterproof)
Malia - Wannabe Detective?
Jenna - Matrix Bug? (She seems to be "vanishing"... haven't figured out this one yet)
Madison - PROBABLY HIPNOTIZED/DRUGGED and pretty stupid Stripper
Penny - "Bimbo" Undercover Agent (from the FUTURE!)
Emma - Undercover Agent (from RUSSIA! probably...)
Holmes - Undercover Agent (from MIB!)
Sarah - Immortal Snoop Dogg
Katy - Possessed "Hentai" Cultist
Caroline - "Jean Grey"-like

Note 1: I initially though about making a Tier List, but I dropped the idea because I don't want to reply snowflakes that would certainly disagree with me.
Note 2: Idk how many routes you can get on the same playthrough, the most that I got was 5 (Ash, Jenna, Jules, Penny, Zoey).
Note 3: PLEASE DEV! if you read this REMOVE THE SLOW TRANSITIONS!!! or at least make them skippable (tab or ctrl)... the 1th time was OK but in 5th was a total suffering .

Imho Jenna goes for the Alternate Reality Joey angle

PS for KnottyGames: Emma knows about a "strange floating rock" even if you didnt say anything, so probably a required check is missing in the closet or the classroom scene (or not).

 

[crabsinthekitchen]

Imho Jenna goes for the Alternate Reality Joey angle

Either that or split personality/tulpa manifesting into a physical body after interacting with the Element

 

[KnottyGames]

PS for KnottyGames: Emma knows about a "strange floating rock" even if you didnt say anything, so probably a required check is missing in the closet or the classroom scene (or not).

I found that line and added 2 variations based on whether you had sex with Emma or not. Sometimes it's tough remembering who knows what at any given time, if I don't make a note on it.

Also Madison does share sub-routes with Trish and Emma, so how they decide to handle that situation might be based on those other too...