VN Ren'Py Abandoned Elite Garden [Ep.4] [A&K Studio]

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Because there is no incest in this game? You can't hook up with your family in this game.

It's still pervasive in the worldbuilding - and anyone who doesnt like incest would instantly notice it. It'd be like playing a game without an ntr tag, but 5 minutes in guys are catcalling your gf left and right (even though nothing else happens).

Suzanne and Arianne dont interact with MC like siblings, they interact like LIs. They don't interact with Freddie like siblings, they interact like harem game LIs would with a male friend of mc's.

 

[anonnyscouse]

It's still pervasive in the worldbuilding - and anyone who doesnt like incest would instantly notice it. It'd be like playing a game without an ntr tag, but 5 minutes in guys are catcalling your gf left and right (even though nothing else happens).

Suzanne and Arianne dont interact with MC like siblings, they interact like LIs. They don't interact with Freddie like siblings, they interact like harem game LIs would with a male friend of mc's.

Suzanne isn't a sibling she is a friend of the family (not the euphemistic childhood friend to get round patreon rules) and I don't recall any flirtatious interactions with Ari, it all seems like normal sibling banter.

 

[SpyderArachnid]

It's still pervasive in the worldbuilding - and anyone who doesnt like incest would instantly notice it. It'd be like playing a game without an ntr tag, but 5 minutes in guys are catcalling your gf left and right (even though nothing else happens).

Suzanne and Arianne dont interact with MC like siblings, they interact like LIs. They don't interact with Freddie like siblings, they interact like harem game LIs would with a male friend of mc's.

I haven't seen anything with Ari that would suggest she is a LI. All three of them act like siblings towards each other. And Suzanne is a friend, not related at all like anonnyscouse mentioned.

There has been nothing in the game that hints at incest. Just because you have family in the game, doesn't automatically mean that there must be incest. You can still have regular family interactions without sleeping with them. It feels like you've played too many incest games and now just seeing family in a game makes you see incest where it isn't.

Like some kind of incest trauma lol

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

I haven't seen anything with Ari that would suggest she is a LI. All three of them act like siblings towards each other. And Suzanne is a friend, not related at all like anonnyscouse mentioned.

There has been nothing in the game that hints at incest. Just because you have family in the game, doesn't automatically mean that there must be incest. You can still have regular family interactions without sleeping with them. It feels like you've played too many incest games and now just seeing family in a game makes you see incest where it isn't.

Like some kind of incest trauma lol

Do you have siblings? Are you from outside the US? This isn't me trying to dox you - genuine question. Because the game is set here, and that kind of living situation would be VERY uncommon for 22 year olds, especially all of them together at the same time - you might have some siblings home for the summer, but it'd be very rare as the status quo.

Suzanne isn't a sibling she is a friend of the family (not the euphemistic childhood friend to get round patreon rules) and I don't recall any flirtatious interactions with Ari, it all seems like normal sibling banter.

I stand corrected on Suzanne thank you - though it certainly does have dialogue resembling the kind of typical patreon workaround with her - "remember middle school", etcetc.

 

[SpyderArachnid]

Do you have siblings? Are you from outside the US? This isn't me trying to dox you - genuine question. Because the game is set here, and that kind of living situation would be VERY uncommon for 22 year olds, especially all of them together at the same time - you might have some siblings home for the summer, but it'd be very rare as the status quo.

I stand corrected on Suzanne thank you - though it certainly does have dialogue resembling the kind of typical patreon workaround with her - "remember middle school", etcetc.

I do have siblings, but I'm in the US.

Their family situation is different from my own, but they are not a wealthy family, in fact, considered poor. So, they still live together and support each other. They are a close-knit family. Those do exist outside of incest relationships. I assume after college they'll want to move out eventually, but for now, they are comfortable together, supporting each other while going through college together.

You might not see it enough because of your own family life, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It's a real thing and a real situation that some people have.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

I do have siblings, but I'm in the US.

Their family situation is different from my own, but they are not a wealthy family, in fact, considered poor. So, they still live together and support each other. They are a close-knit family. Those do exist outside of incest relationships. I assume after college they'll want to move out eventually, but for now, they are comfortable together, supporting each other while going through college together.

You might not see it enough because of your own family life, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It's a real thing and a real situation that some people have.

bro cmon. I know exactly what you're talking about in the real world, and it doesnt look like them. A middle-to-lower class family living together won't have three 22yos just lollygagging around, some of them will be at work for much of the day.

I'm not gonna convince anyone who doesnt see this for what it is - I'd love for someone who is also strongly turned off by incest to chip in.... I maintain it's quite reasonable to tire of these setups. We're playing porn games here. I don't want things set in a family, I want characters on their own, living life, chasing tail, whatever. Yet in this bizarre culture, that's the MINORITY of story frameworks in avns.

Anyway, fun game other than the family part.

 

[anonnyscouse]

bro cmon. I know exactly what you're talking about in the real world, and it doesnt look like them. A middle-to-lower class family living together won't have three 22yos just lollygagging around, some of them will be at work for much of the day.

I'm not gonna convince anyone who doesnt see this for what it is - I'd love for someone who is also strongly turned off by incest to chip in.... I maintain it's quite reasonable to tire of these setups. We're playing porn games here. I don't want things set in a family, I want characters on their own, living life, chasing tail, whatever. Yet in this bizarre culture, that's the MINORITY of story frameworks in avns.

Anyway, fun game other than the family part.

I'm turned off by incest and that's exactly why I like this game. It's rare to actually have a wholesome family dynamic in an avn. It's not uncommon for students starting university to stay at home if their university is local especially if the family doesn't have much money, it makes no sense to pay for student accommodation just to be five minutes closer to classes. I'm not sure what you mean by saying some of them would be at work all day, all three siblings are at university so can't have a full time job.

 

[Dessolos]

Personally I don't see anything close to incest in this game it just feel really wholesome to me

 

[Ragnar]

I supposse if you play incest games on a daily basis a functional family woud look alien to you

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

I supposse if you play incest games on a daily basis a functional family woud look alien to you

I dont tho, if i had my way they wouldnt exist. There wouldn't be any "and this is muh family". To me those things are fundamentally incongruent with porngames.

 

[Daermon420]

I dont tho, if i had my way they wouldnt exist. There wouldn't be any "and this is muh family". To me those things are fundamentally incongruent with porngames.

I like this game so far, partly because the family dynamic is actually wholesome, which is rare. The MCs siblings are great. I'm not even sure where anyone picked up incest vibes from this game, because I didn't get that at all, not even a tiny bit.

That said, what is with people wanting to police others fetishes constantly. I hate NTR but still wouldn't erase all NTR games from existence if I had the opportunity. Why in the hell would I? If people enjoy that, good for them. Plenty of other games around that do fit my particular tastes to choose from.

 

[Dessolos]

I like this game so far, partly because the family dynamic is actually wholesome, which is rare. The MCs siblings are great. I'm not even sure where anyone picked up incest vibes from this game, because I didn't get that at all, not even a tiny bit.

That said, what is with people wanting to police others fetishes constantly. I hate NTR but still wouldn't erase all NTR games from existence if I had the opportunity. Why in the hell would I? If people enjoy that, good for them. Plenty of other games around that do fit my particular tastes to choose from.

Yeah I wish we had more family games like this that were wholesome. I never saw anything close to incest either , I don't really get it in this game.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

I like this game so far, partly because the family dynamic is actually wholesome, which is rare. The MCs siblings are great. I'm not even sure where anyone picked up incest vibes from this game, because I didn't get that at all, not even a tiny bit.

That said, what is with people wanting to police others fetishes constantly. I hate NTR but still wouldn't erase all NTR games from existence if I had the opportunity. Why in the hell would I? If people enjoy that, good for them. Plenty of other games around that do fit my particular tastes to choose from.

What do you mean "that said"? both those things are aligned, and both opposed to what I said.

Ill say it again - it has incestvibes because the average 22yo doesnt live at home with the whole family. Yes, people will trip over themselves to defend this, the same as people trip over themselves calling figures 'petite bodies' instead of loli or pedo.But forget I brought up incest, im just plain saying i dont like the family kind of set up - not for 22yos.

The rest of the game is quite good, the above setup was the only thing I didn't like, I should have just left it as that.

 

[JogaBonito]

10 Months without a Update or any Info to a Release Date?
When became it a Trend to only release 1 EP à Year, even for the "smaller" Games?

I'm not hating or something, but I'm not wondering anymore why new Games got regullary abandoned for simply reasons like money issues or motivation problems for Dev's...

Every 3-5 Month a Update should do the trick to keep steady new patreons etc.
I'll doubt that if you only releasd 1 EP a year...

 

[efewafeaw]

this game defo abandoned

 

[Dessolos]

this game defo abandoned

2 months without communication does not = abandoned

 

[MiltonPowers]

2 months without communication does not = abandoned

Two months without communication is normal for these devs.

 

[anonnyscouse]

When you've got 61 subscribers you probably don't feel the same responsibility to provide regular updates compared to when you have thousands of subscribers to keep happy.

 

[Breezerr]

When you've got 61 subscribers you probably don't feel the same responsibility to provide regular updates compared to when you have thousands of subscribers to keep happy.

But that is probably one of the reasons why such a great game doesn't have more subscribers.

 

[BenMeiffert]

Why doesnt this have an incest tag? I specific filter that in searches so I can avoid these "we're all 21+ and live together and call each other family and refer to mom" weird setups.

do you want to bang your bro that hard ???