VN Ren'Py Elleria [v1.3.3 - Wheel of Fate] [M.C Games]

[Maccabbee]

They adapted the plot to give her some more screen time without changing the story in any way.

You are asking them to completely rewrite the plot because he *wrote a character too well*. That's not how stories work. Again i suggest playing 'the neverwhere tales' to understand that someone being a compelling character and love interest doesn't mean they're going to be around forever.



But it's not a valid complaint. It's just people screeching into the void because a story didn't have a plotline they wanted.

It's an unfinished product. It will be subject to change. Sometimes advances in tech on their own mean that the entire game needs to be started afresh (see desert stalker).

I bought this game on Steam, I didn't steal it from here. It was not sold as "early access" or any of that shit. It was supposedly the entirety of Book 1, next book would continue the story. Only patches expected, at that point, would be bug fixes or feature additions. NOT AN EARLY ACCESS GAME.

The problem was that the game didn't meet the dev's somewhat ridiculous expectations. The game was interesting, but nothing extremely wonderful. It was good, not great. Art was good, LIs were hot, great worldbuilding and decent plot, animations and sex mostly boring and unimaginative.

It wasn't hyped enough. Note the lack of mods and walkthroughs available, no fan-made content, it doesn't have a following. Why were they expecting high sales? Everything after that was a total clusterfuck.

 

[Maccabbee]

They adapted the plot to give her some more screen time without changing the story in any way.

You are asking them to completely rewrite the plot because he *wrote a character too well*. That's not how stories work. Again i suggest playing 'the neverwhere tales' to understand that someone being a compelling character and love interest doesn't mean they're going to be around forever.

But it's not a valid complaint. It's just people screeching into the void because a story didn't have a plotline they wanted.

It's an unfinished product. It will be subject to change. Sometimes advances in tech on their own mean that the entire game needs to be started afresh (see desert stalker).

Look, gooner, just because you have reading comprehension issues, don't blame me. Think literally whatever you want, it doesn't matter to me. Drool over your dev all you want.

I never asked anything of the dev, just explained the facts which you choose to ignore. I never said to give Lyria back (which today's post indicates that he's doing, despite saying that he wouldn't), just explained why I was upset she was removed. My only choice is whether I choose to continue with this game (which, again, I paid for), or to just wipe it from my drive and move on. There's no shortage of games to play.

 

[BGRW2020]

Porn games really do give people a particular type of brainworms.

It's the dev's story. It's a long story of multiple books with a wide scope. You are demanding they change the entire thing because you caught feelings for some pixels.

I was also saddened by lyria's exit, but the current state of play makes perfect sense from a character perspective. Apparently she WILL be returning to the story at a later date anyway.

You could argue that the dev made a mistake in the way he curated their relationship because it created certain expectations, but a key part of the plot if the MC basically abandoning his past life and personal desires to go on some ideological crusade. Those expectations are your problem. Are AVNs just not allowed to ever have female characters die or leave? It's a ludicrous notion. I hope you never play 'the neverwhere tales' because if an elf no longer being an LI gets you upset you'll never recover.

It's also not helped by f95 and this thread previously having a banner that portrayed her as a key LI and the sample pictures showing her multiple times. Someone should really change and update the latter.

There's a long character arc. There's plenty of time for characters to reappear or disappear. get over yourself

Wow you are really into the Dev eh! He has a responsibility to his readers - if he doesn't get them to like/love the story he is the one that dies. So when he made the mistake to get them together in the first place he was screwing with the readers minds. And also in the fantasy world the characters are not supposed to be just pixels they are real in this story, no less than a person reading a book

 

[Maccabbee]

Wow you are really into the Dev eh! He has a responsibility to his readers - if he doesn't get them to like/love the story he is the one that dies. So when he made the mistake to get them together in the first place he was screwing with the readers minds. And also in the fantasy world the characters are not supposed to be just pixels they are real in this story, no less than a person reading a book

The dev also made sure we know that Elves mate for life, never cheat, etc.. Why would we be upset if we mate with her, then she disappears?

 

[GeoffG]

Wow you are really into the Dev eh! He has a responsibility to his readers - if he doesn't get them to like/love the story he is the one that dies. So when he made the mistake to get them together in the first place he was screwing with the readers minds. And also in the fantasy world the characters are not supposed to be just pixels they are real in this story, no less than a person reading a book

Welcome to the reason that that tv and film is dying. And the reason so many AVNs get abandoned.

The dev also made sure we know that Elves mate for life, never cheat, etc.. Why would we be upset if we mate with her, then she disappears?

The MC died. They DID mate for life

 

[Loxxxthenasty]

The story is solid likeable... The MC... Makes me not want to continue and wished the dragon really fucked him off permanently... Such a whiny brooding bitch... Lived so long, learnt nothing except how to be more of a broody bitch...his thoughts are excruciatingly sad and selfish... He made me curse several times through the first half of chap. 1.... Oh jeez what's next... Strings of.... Was going great until it got kicked in the balls... I'm guessing some level of mental anguish is required to see this one through eh??

 

[Macinnes]

I finally got around to playing the DLC. Straight away I am wishing the intro could be paused or slowed down for my old eyes to read. I was sorely disappointed the fight with the Champion was passed over. Instead we get a text saying not only him but many other champions were sent and Eliot felled them all. I think I can speak for the other fans of this game that we wanted the visual satisfaction of at least seeing that first bastard go down by Eliot's hand.

 

[Maccabbee]

I finally got around to playing the DLC. Straight away I am wishing the intro could be paused or slowed down for my old eyes to read. I was sorely disappointed the fight with the Champion was passed over. Instead we get a text saying not only him but many other champions were sent and Eliot felled them all. I think I can speak for the other fans of this game that we wanted the visual satisfaction of at least seeing that first bastard go down by Eliot's hand.

It feels like they got tired of the game they started, wanted a different game, and just changed one into the other.

 

[Crimsonfiend76]

Really enjoying the story and the eventual direction it plans on heading into. I understand I'm still early into it, as I've only just reached the part where they take the nobles' castle after the fort was revealed to have a particular achilles heel. I have to keep reminding myself not to get too attached to Lyria, as I also liked her a lot, for me it was all the time she spent with the MC in their early years together.... she was something of his heart, and always was going to be something of a reminder... grounding him into being the better version of himself.

That said, I can respect that her role is to advance HIS story and sadly once she serves her purpose, their paths ultimately go in opposite directions. I hold out hope that she will come back one day... and take her place at his side for the remaining years she has left. In the same way, I had hope Elvira would be more important to the MC, I'm a romantic at heart and them being forced apart by her father kind of left a bitter taste in my mouth, but maybe they just were never meant to be together?

I do like Aria... and Eris, for that matter. It's painfully obvious how Eris feels for the MC, and I hope her love won't stay unrequited. While I don't exactly get the same kind of feelings from Yana towards the MC... I do love me some monster/demon girls, and the whole taboo of a forbidden relationship (also why I like elves), so even if they don't have a totally open relationship where Yana becomes one of the MC's wives, I do like there being something between them... even better if she also gets pregnant and has baby.

 

[Content_Consumer]

There's never been a more truer war fought than war of faith, for if people will not fight for what they believe in, what else is there to fight for?

one of the dumbest things I've ever read and I haven't even started the VN yet.

Faith is belief despite the lack of verifiable facts, pretty much the most stupid reason to fight a war.
Faith is the antithesis of logic and reason.

 

[psychedevil]

Yeah, I could agree with fighting a war for what you believe in if it's a worthy cause in a real-world sense, but if we're talking about beliefs in terms of religious faith...then there's been so many useless wars fought over that or at least made to seem like they were fought over that (rather than in actuality conquering or domination or stealing/taking resources).