VN Ren'Py Elmwood University [Ep.4 Gold] [WickedWare]

[Raziel_8]

And in all honesty, that's such an annoying internet cliché to begin with, most of my friends are queer and feminist, and I've yet to meet and/or encounter someone who has such extreme views against men. I mean real people, not a fake persona that you use on social media.

I had the pleasure of meeting multiple of those kind irl and a couple of men who are like that too.
But yeah, those who i know personaly are just normal....one couple i'm friends with convienced me to go with them in a gay bars together...first time was kinda funny experience after a couple of beers, but the guys there were all pretty normal.
Beside that my friends often get pissed at those kind of people too and about the shit they talk on social media, or how the media portrais things

The one meeting which is most present in my memory is of a couple of them asking me if it's ok to ask me about my opinion on some things, which i had no problems with. It ended in me getting insulted and labeled as ''the kind of people which are the problem in our society'' because i answered to one of their questions ''I have personaly no interest in trying to date another man, as i am not and never was attracted to men at all''...

I also agree with the sentiment that, if the whole thing with Chloe and Jordan comes as a package deal (which I'm not against), it should start to be handled differently to be an interesting path. Not only does Jordan have to start treating you like a normal person, both of them also have to understand that the best way to get to know someone isn't inviting them just so that you can flirt in front of their faces all the time. I know you're a couple, it's totally cool, and I get shows of affection, but does everything have to revolve around how the two of you have the hots for each other? Or, how you're constantly thinking about eating each other out? Instead of, I don't know, having a normal conversation to get to know each other?

Yeah, i would have walked out of that, certainly not spend the entire time watching them making out, flirting and have to listen to Jordan's rant about why straight men suck...
There's also the thing that if devs want to make a relationship with them work the MC needs to be more then just a 3rd wheel, which is sometimes invited for some sex.

I just wish that the MC could somewhat stand up against the stereotype that Jordan has painted over him.

Yes, thought i don't think that would work as Jordan is written...in the first place, i see no reason why i have to proof to her that i'm different. Try to be normal and treat the other as equal, maybe you would find out.

 

[Macky009]

There seem to be a lot of tragic backstories. That's why I think Molly should get some major love. Even Valentina Novotná, but in her case, deal with your daughter and leave the students alone, you bi-yatch.

Veronika never received loved from her parents and that damn lover of her Jacub who could not even break up properly. But her daughter Natalia become the person who loves and care to Veronika. Funny how her daughter created a secret dating account for her . I hope in the coming episode we finally meet Natalia

 

[OWSam000]

Veronika never received loved from her parents and that damn lover of her Jacub who could not even break up properly. But her daughter Natalia become the person who loves and care to Veronika. Funny how her daughter created a secret dating account for her . I hope in the coming episode we finally meet Natalia

Who is Veronika? One of the professor?

 

[Macky009]

Who is Veronika? One of the professor?

 

[YogSothoth1982]

Well, it's not like you can be friendly only with one of them.
The friendly one is alright imo, the other one is a bitch, with whom i want to have nothing to do with.
Going out with them this ep was the worst scene in the game so far and sure as hell didn't make them any more likeable...

Personaly i would like if we can hook up with the friendly one and break up their relationship.
Otherwise i think they are way better suited as friends than LI's. IIRC even their bios reads something like ''if you win their trust, they might invite you to some things'', sounds pretty much just like walking dildo/3rd wheel to me.

I agreed to being friends with them, but the truth is, I told them no to going to the bar together, and I will continue to say no to all their suggestions. I don't intend to waste my time with them if I can avoid it.

 

[Anteron]

Best friends - none
affectionate nicknames - none.

On my play she has 0 lust and negative love, as do the other 2 bitches.

 

[Krytax123]

The cunts/avoid: Nina, Molly, Dr No

I agree that Nina is a bit lame (i still bang her tho) but imo Molly will be one of the greatest first lewds ever, i hope for a proper good hatefuck which turns into high passion!

Dr. No we will see

 

[Jaga Telesin]

Same but mainly because 90% of lesbian scenes are so goddam boring. Straight up snooze fest.
Only thing i do enjoy is when women kiss each other :shrug: idc that's hot asf, but that's about it really.

But i will say that there is A LOT and i mean A LOT of potential with lesbian scenes that would make them less boring. But idk devs seem to be allergic to creativity and actually including hot things.

In Ep4 I kept waiting (hoping?) that when they went out for drinks, the girls would proposition the MC for a bit of non-threatening and non-sexual discovery. i.e. they trust him so far and would want to know more about the male body and member, and he'd have the option to let them explore him a little in private without expectations.

That would have been a fun first step towards something more with them later. But if they aren't true LIs, they really are a waste of roster space. No idea what the dev plans to do with them.

 

[Lovemaking]

they trust him

Trust is a great opening to pursue lesbian couples. But that is if they also want it. Especially if they are looking for a third member because the dildo's and strap-on's are not cutting it. Or maybe they just want to explore other feelings with someone they both like, trust and someone who they find respectful.

want to know more about the male body and member, and he'd have the option to let them explore him a little in private without expectations

For sure, personally i don't care about properly romancing and have a endgame with a lesbian couple. But it would definitely be something different and add some fun scenes with having a lesbian couple explore the male body and its member without the constant disrespectfulness. ("leave" "we're done with you now" "you can watch") I ESPECIALLY hate the "you can watch" option they give you. Like respectfully fuck off and just let me leave if that's the case. I'd rather watch my girlfriend get dicked down by a BBC than watching a lesbian couple. Why? because it would actually be interesting and less boring with the first option. Holy shit this got way out of topic. I must apologize.

Alright back on topic. It would be cool to have some fun and respectful private encounters without the MC having expectations like he's a fucking teenager waiting for Mrs. Claus to jump him at Christmas night.

 

[Irgendwie Irgendwo]

Well, done with the do-over and found that apparently I missed out on a lot on the first go. Never saw the squirt teaching, the date with Ella and the final scene with Lydia. I also did not know that achievements stayed unlocked even though you're replaying on another path and / or play around with points. ("Kat got your tongue" for oral during the threesome with Chels is still there.)

Speaking if which, playing around with points may have thrown me off the Twins path and somehow put me back on. They were furious with me for bringing Paris to the room and ended it, and later on they did their wand play and behaved like nothing happened and finally, after punching out that guy at the party, posed that blowjob / cuddles choice. At that point I made a save.
BTW, they said that they met the Cheers at the party and liked them, so IMO that's an opening for them to join the bigger picture, it may just take a while.

Also, after talking to "the friendly Lesbian" at the café I haven't seen them again, so no third-wheeling for me, it seems.

 

[Krytax123]

I had the pleasure of meeting multiple of those kind irl and a couple of men who are like that too.
But yeah, those who i know personaly are just normal....one couple i'm friends with convienced me to go with them in a gay bars together...first time was kinda funny experience after a couple of beers, but the guys there were all pretty normal.
Beside that my friends often get pissed at those kind of people too and about the shit they talk on social media, or how the media portrais things

The one meeting which is most present in my memory is of a couple of them asking me if it's ok to ask me about my opinion on some things, which i had no problems with. It ended in me getting insulted and labeled as ''the kind of people which are the problem in our society'' because i answered to one of their questions ''I have personaly no interest in trying to date another man, as i am not and never was attracted to men at all''...

Yeah, i would have walked out of that, certainly not spend the entire time watching them making out, flirting and have to listen to Jordan's rant about why straight men suck...
There's also the thing that if devs want to make a relationship with them work the MC needs to be more then just a 3rd wheel, which is sometimes invited for some sex.

Yes, thought i don't think that would work as Jordan is written...in the first place, i see no reason why i have to proof to her that i'm different. Try to be normal and treat the other as equal, maybe you would find out.

Yeah man, its like were starting with -100 sympathy points and have to prove her that were a normal human being instead of her already firm perception that the mc is a predator simply because he has a penis. Acts of servitude and spineless-ness give +1 sympathy point each ...

There are lots of feminists in this story and all are kinda great, i dont get why one has to be such a bundle of negative stereotypes but is meant as a li lol

I really dont have any patience or goodwill for that kind of stupid intolerance/prejudices. Im sorry you may have had bad experiences with members of the male gender (there are a lot of us) but that wasnt me and if you just lump me with random guys together, i dont have any fucking interest in talking to you at all.

Shes just waiting for the mc to have any controversial opinion or thought to put him into a rapist corner lol, fuck that

 

[YogSothoth1982]

In Ep4 I kept waiting (hoping?) that when they went out for drinks, the girls would proposition the MC for a bit of non-threatening and non-sexual discovery. i.e. they trust him so far and would want to know more about the male body and member, and he'd have the option to let them explore him a little in private without expectations.

That would have been a fun first step towards something more with them later. But if they aren't true LIs, they really are a waste of roster space. No idea what the dev plans to do with them.

I have a very clear idea of my plans to do with them: ignore them.

 

[Macky009]

Well, done with the do-over and found that apparently I missed out on a lot on the first go. Never saw the squirt teaching, the date with Ella and the final scene with Lydia. I also did not know that achievements stayed unlocked even though you're replaying on another path and / or play around with points. ("Kat got your tongue" for oral during the threesome with Chels is still there.)

Speaking if which, playing around with points may have thrown me off the Twins path and somehow put me back on. They were furious with me for bringing Paris to the room and ended it, and later on they did their wand play and behaved like nothing happened and finally, after punching out that guy at the party, posed that blowjob / cuddles choice. At that point I made a save.
BTW, they said that they met the Cheers at the party and liked them, so IMO that's an opening for them to join the bigger picture, it may just take a while.

Also, after talking to "the friendly Lesbian" at the café I haven't seen them again, so no third-wheeling for me, it seems.

I suggest to unlock the persuasion in mental stat so you can lie and deescalate the situation with the twins when you bring Paris at the dorm

 

[FalconLover420]

Spoiler: Best girl

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God she is literally perfect

She is the one I am most looking forward to. I can't wait to either get in a relationship or have her in the harem if there is one. HOPEFULLY the light skill works haha

 

[Macky009]

She is the one I am most looking forward to. I can't wait to either get in a relationship or have her in the harem if there is one. HOPEFULLY the light skill works haha

I think everyone is excited to be in relationship with Katie either in solo or harem playthrough. But I do hope she has a solo playthrough because she deserve unconditional love and attention.

 

[Irgendwie Irgendwo]

I suggest to unlock the persuasion in mental stat so you can lie and deescalate the situation with the twins when you bring Paris at the dorm

Thanks. It's a good idea, I have Mental up to Persuasion. Will take it after Oral Mastery and G-Spot Penetration.
(Takes 60 points though, and I have 10 to spare atm. Since MC "went to lectures" in the final week of the update and didn't get skill points this may take a while.)

 

[FalconLover420]

I think everyone is excited to be in relationship with Katie either in solo or harem playthrough. But I do hope she has a solo playthrough because she deserve unconditional love and attention.
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Hell yeah, she was understanding and nice to you from the start! She deserves everything fr

 

[Macky009]

I hope this kisses in the cheek will turn into kiss on her lips
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[TheNowhereWolf]

Here are some of Violet screen shot. She is one heck of a badass character with a tragic back story.
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Well shit... there's a hot goth girl. Guess I'm going to be sidetracked from my catchup list... again.

 

[Macky009]

What a nice Sunset​