Precisely, I call "the grey zone" the thin red line and it's easy to say they look "old" from the outside when it's us Dev's that lose our Patreon Account when we invoke the wrath of having Tweenies in our Games. I think Em looks perfect and sexy as she is, reminds me a bit of the Pornstar Jillian Janson who seems to defy aging. There are some gorgeous people out there in the real world who can look 20 when in their 30's and 40's even and there are 18 year olds who can look like they're 30 already. Liz Hurley just celebrated her 60th Birthday getting naked... Does she look 60? It's subjective and people will have different views and some will even falsely claim surgery or botox when there isn't any.
