VN Ren'Py Empire Hostess Club [v0.2] [Zao83]

[HiHaHo]

Listen... I have no problem with you as you seem chill in the other threads I see you in, but this ISN'T the dev's fault. It's the people who run and develop this website, who even after all this time STILL haven't updated the tag system. The dev absolutely DID NOT do a "bait and switch", he's literally just following the guidelines and using the harem tag as it's defined. Don't accuse people of something while being so bad faith about it, you've been on here long enough to know that the tag system is shite.

aahh you might've missed a few threads,i can be quite a jerk at times.(or maybe you missed some posts because mods removed them)
anyway i can't deny that the tag system isn't somewhat at fault " Harem [1 person being courted by at least 3 others, all engaging in consensual sex simultaneously.] " is a easy threshold to get.
and yes i've been on F95 long enough to know this,but that also comes with the added knowledge that the dev's have some controle over if it gets added and/or stays there.

if zao didn't want the harem tag here for his VN it wouldn't be here + it seems this VN seems to collect tags like pokemon...
it might again be a byproduct off the tag system. but given that i wouldn't call "bad faith" to assume it's a bait & switch for people who primarily go for the harem tag(and its more general understanding off that the women are only for the MC or at least have the option to be shared or not).

 

[Wahcha]

Damn i actually played this game through twice just because it was such a fun time, I really deeply hope this game is around for a long time and gets updates.

I know dev doesn't have any pay sites but if you ever decide to open anything i'll sign up for sure.

This game is like perfectly mixing my favorite tags/fetish content and a storyline that is interesting and fun.

 

[AgriasQuarto]

This might be an unpopular opinion, but I hope the developer stops adding random jp voicelines during character introductions and random points in conversations, its extremely jarring to hear random offtopic dialogue that has nothing to do with the onscreen text.

 

[Zao83]

This might be an unpopular opinion, but I hope the developer stops adding random jp voicelines during character introductions and random points in conversations, its extremely jarring to hear random offtopic dialogue that has nothing to do with the onscreen text.

My intention is for the player to be able to identify each character by their tone of voice. Even in the sexual scenes, each girl has her own distinct voice, which takes me a lot of time to implement in the game.

But I understand it can be confusing for people who understand Japanese, since obviously what the character says doesn’t match the text box.

 

[Xrandom]

Android port?

 

[Zao83]

Android port?

I’m not planning an Android version for several reasons.
As far as I know, the video scene format in the game isn’t compatible with Android and wouldn’t play, so I would have to redo them all.
I also think that some of the game mechanics wouldn’t work well on Android.

 

[Ogogin]

Finally got the time to play both the releases of this game, solid graphic and good background for both the MC and the various LIs, but I have some details and suggestions I would like to share to the developer.

The slave system is quite weird. Apparently you can literally kidnap and sell who you want with no laws protecting people. Both the High Elf and the Black Student (sorry I don't remember their names) where literally kidnapped and sold from random people.
This makes one of the objectives of MC (freeing all his slaves) quite chaotic, since every girl he eventually free could be kidpapped/captured, enslaved and resold immediately.
No really safe choice overall, but perhaps you can throw the card of the "different countries, different laws" to protect the girls as far as they stay inside the country MC live? This way they would at least be safe as long as they don't go in countries with different laws.

Always regarding the slave law, the 10x penalty an owner face for freeing a slave doesn't make any sense culture wise.
There is already little to no reason why anybody (outside of MC) should decide to free his own slaves, so the existence of a law to enforce you can't free your slaves sound unreasonable.
This could be justified by changing the explanation into owner can't free his slaves for whatever tax reasons you can think of and slaves having to pay 10x their prices to buy their own freedom.

MC selling around 90% of his slaves to buy Ana sound dungerous plot wise. That literally mean he sold 45 slaves (he has 5 slaves left at the beginning of the game, 7 if we include Marta and the bodyguard).
With one of the objectives of MC being buy back the slaves sold this can seriously bite back if you intend to make them future LIs (even just side LIs or even mere appearances), there is simply too many for introduce them all plot wise.
Perhaps changing the line into "around 80% of his slaves" reduce the potential harem from around 45 to around 20 future girls, much more doable in terms of gameplay.

The final h-scene of the current release show Ana being forced to give anal against her will, she confirm this herself once the sexual act is over by explaining she had no choice since che costumer who pays have every right over her.
This scene go against a previous point estabilished during Chapter 1 where no girl would be forced to do anything against their will and leave a very unconfortable feeling behind all the future Netorase scenes if not addressed.
This could be fixed in the 3 possible ways:
1. by removing that last part of the sexual act from the scene entirely.
2. by using the excuse that he was a particular powerful patreon (the King) as a special circumstance.
3. by removing the part in the dialogues where she say she had "no choice since he paid" into she was just "uncomfortable with it" but still desired or was interested into doing it by her own free choice.

Hopefully I didn't overstep the author's vision of his game with my opinions, please keep going with the good work.

 

[Zao83]

Finally got the time to play both the releases of this game, solid graphic and good background for both the MC and the various LIs, but I have some details and suggestions I would like to share to the developer.

The slave system is quite weird. Apparently you can literally kidnap and sell who you want with no laws protecting people. Both the High Elf and the Black Student (sorry I don't remember their names) where literally kidnapped and sold from random people.
This makes one of the objectives of MC (freeing all his slaves) quite chaotic, since every girl he eventually free could be kidpapped/captured, enslaved and resold immediately.
No really safe choice overall, but perhaps you can throw the card of the "different countries, different laws" to protect the girls as far as they stay inside the country MC live? This way they would at least be safe as long as they don't go in countries with different laws.

Always regarding the slave law, the 10x penalty an owner face for freeing a slave doesn't make any sense culture wise.
There is already little to no reason why anybody (outside of MC) should decide to free his own slaves, so the existence of a law to enforce you can't free your slaves sound unreasonable.
This could be justified by changing the explanation into owner can't free his slaves for whatever tax reasons you can think of and slaves having to pay 10x their prices to buy their own freedom.

MC selling around 90% of his slaves to buy Ana sound dungerous plot wise. That literally mean he sold 45 slaves (he has 5 slaves left at the beginning of the game, 7 if we include Marta and the bodyguard).
With one of the objectives of MC being buy back the slaves sold this can seriously bite back if you intend to make them future LIs (even just side LIs or even mere appearances), there is simply too many for introduce them all plot wise.
Perhaps changing the line into "around 80% of his slaves" reduce the potential harem from around 45 to around 20 future girls, much more doable in terms of gameplay.

The final h-scene of the current release show Ana being forced to give anal against her will, she confirm this herself once the sexual act is over by explaining she had no choice since che costumer who pays have every right over her.
This scene go against a previous point estabilished during Chapter 1 where no girl would be forced to do anything against their will and leave a very unconfortable feeling behind all the future Netorase scenes if not addressed.
This could be fixed in the 3 possible ways:
1. by removing that last part of the sexual act from the scene entirely.
2. by using the excuse that he was a particular powerful patreon (the King) as a special circumstance.
3. by removing the part in the dialogues where she say she had "no choice since he paid" into she was just "uncomfortable with it" but still desired or was interested into doing it by her own free choice.

Hopefully I didn't overstep the author's vision of his game with my opinions, please keep going with the good work.

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[Ogogin]

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Thank you for your kind answer

Yeah, I admit I tend to nitpick a little too much the minor details, had a past as a novel writer myself, sorry . And obviously certain elements will make more sense once you continue the story.

Just let me be more clear regarding the last point though.
Will I remember Ana saying she trained herself into accepting anal sex and being able to perform it if necessary, she still said she had no other choice but do it anyway since the client "paid her" and she had "no right to refuse", no matter she liked, accepted, or was against it. That's the part that make me uncomfortable regargind future scenes with any LI involved into prostitution, the hammer of they having to accept any form of abuse no matter what (and MC having no power of neither prevent or help against it) is dangerous close to a "rape scenario" that, in my opinion, conflict a lot with the characterization of the MC as introduced and with the structure of the Nts part of the story you are trying to tell.
Just my 2 cents

 

[qwerty676767]

Holy shit this game is good! It just hits all the spots for me, good job dev keep it up!

 

[Pb20/20]

Kinda early to ask I know, but when can we expect the next update?

 

[Freedom Heart]

Holy shit this game is good!

 

[Hilise]

Is there any futa content in this update?

 

[Zao83]

Kinda early to ask I know, but when can we expect the next update?

My intention is to release version 0.3 by mid-January.

 

[Wahcha]

damn thats so far away, but totally understandable, this update left me wanting the next update so much

 

[Haggis McMutton]

This is gonna sound awful, but Reika's skin is too dark.
Now, just to preempt the inevitable.
I like all gals and guys equally, regardless of their skincolor.
Besides everybody is pink on the inside anyways.

What bothers me about Reika is, I can't even see the outlines of her cleavage or where her chin or nose are.
Just a brown mass shaped like a woman, with nice eyes and lips.

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I think this is an issue with Koikatsu. I haven't seen that many really dark-skinned characters in Koikatsu-games, but the ones I've seen always looked weird to me.
It's like the Engine can only handle skin tones up to a light brown and anything more looks weird.

And Reika actually has what I'd consider a normal skin-tone.
I really like her character otherwise. She is also one of the few girls in the game without giant knockers, which is always a plus in my book.
Am I the only one who thinks she looks strange?

 

[Zao83]

This is gonna sound awful, but Reika's skin is too dark.
Now, just to preempt the inevitable.
I like all gals and guys equally, regardless of their skincolor.
Besides everybody is pink on the inside anyways.

What bothers me about Reika is, I can't even see the outlines of her cleavage or where her chin or nose are.
Just a brown mass shaped like a woman, with nice eyes and lips.

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I think this is an issue with Koikatsu. I haven't seen that many really dark-skinned characters in Koikatsu-games, but the ones I've seen always looked weird to me.
It's like the Engine can only handle skin tones up to a light brown and anything more looks weird.

And Reika actually has what I'd consider a normal skin-tone.
I really like her character otherwise. She is also one of the few girls in the game without giant knockers, which is always a plus in my book.
Am I the only one who thinks she looks strange?

I think the same as you, that’s why Reika’s skin tone has been changed starting from Chapter 3.

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I’ve been thinking about replacing the images and scenes where she appears in the Prologue and Chapters 1 and 2 as well, but it’s a lot of work. Maybe I’ll do it later.

 

[Fitharia]

Finally got the time to play both the releases of this game, solid graphic and good background for both the MC and the various LIs, but I have some details and suggestions I would like to share to the developer.

The slave system is quite weird. Apparently you can literally kidnap and sell who you want with no laws protecting people. Both the High Elf and the Black Student (sorry I don't remember their names) where literally kidnapped and sold from random people.
This makes one of the objectives of MC (freeing all his slaves) quite chaotic, since every girl he eventually free could be kidpapped/captured, enslaved and resold immediately.
No really safe choice overall, but perhaps you can throw the card of the "different countries, different laws" to protect the girls as far as they stay inside the country MC live? This way they would at least be safe as long as they don't go in countries with different laws.

How you think Ancient Rome often gotten so many gladiators and slaves for households and such, sometimes due war where they captured opponents, but often criminals captured poor travelers and sold them off to crook slavemasters. When the Law allows slavery, then the Law don't care how those slaves where aquired, look how some black slaves were treated in america during the slave era, some got raped, beaten to half death if they not performed well enough for their masters and the law never did anything, most were just africans who got caught by caucasian hunters and sold off and shipped off to america. Trying to justify slavery is just silly as it was just a "legal" form of human trafficking, which is now illegal.

Always regarding the slave law, the 10x penalty an owner face for freeing a slave doesn't make any sense culture wise.

Well this isn't based on any culture, but men are the rulers here and if freeing a slave was cheap, then there wouldn't be many slaves left after awhile if they ended up in possession of goody two shoes master. Did ya know, that in ancient Rome slaves could granted be freedom in arena's if they fought a series of battles, often those slaves never saw freedom and died during those combats. Even slaves in household could get their freedom, but often their masters charged them for things like housing them and feeding them, so they never gotten to see freedom. Depended all on if it was a generous master or a cruel wretch master.

MC selling around 90% of his slaves to buy Ana sound dangerous plot wise.

The MC didn't sell those girls for Ana, it was the man before MC took over. The man was a cruel horny fat slob who only cared about his wallet what the new girl could bring him, but when he got home and heard prostitution was abolished, he drank, drugged and fucked himself to death.

 

[Haggis McMutton]

I think the same as you, that’s why Reika’s skin tone has been changed starting from Chapter 3.

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I’ve been thinking about replacing the images and scenes where she appears in the Prologue and Chapters 1 and 2 as well, but it’s a lot of work. Maybe I’ll do it later.

Now I feel stupid. I hadn't played that far, yet.

Anyway, I quite like the game. This was basically the only gripe I had with it.
So, keep up the good work!
I'm gonna continue playing now.

 

[AzureArbitrator]

Have to say, I am actually enjoying the game.
Has been a pleasant surprise.