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SerHawkes

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I am not the person who complains much. But the size of the dick of Ashe is way too big. Please resize it to normal. I do not know how other Patreons think about it and I hope that they also give their opinion about this "monsterdick"

I know that we have to accept what the dev will give to us. But this is for me way over the top.

All the best with the next update.
Granted, it was all a joke and all. But I gotta say, the whole 'monster dick' on futa characters I honestly don't get. Literally putting a torpedo of a dick on a girl and thinking 'Yeah it'll fit in any hole, no problem!' only to come to the conclusion that the only hole that might work will be the ass, if that. Plus, it screams to me the character in question has some insecurity so they over compensate for some. Plus it's not really appealing to have a small nuclear powered submarine between a girls legs and the exageration in size there.

Take for example Officer Small Dick. Sure she is packing and is very likely all talk and shit, bet she only lasts like 10 seconds in bed. Cleo could also be in the consideration. Like she is all talk and such, and might be on the average size in terms of cod pieces, but I'm semiish hoping that Ashe has her beat in size and girth, just to take her down a peg.

What does sorta get me is that Ashe comparing to Fiona though... that she says Fiona is bigger than her, but I'd say that Fiona and Ashe are kinda on par for sizes. Sure, Fiona's might be a bit longer in than Ashe's, though Ashe seems to have the girth and is long enough.

... Odd Thursday Talks talking about Futa Dick Sizes... Who would have thunk it?
 

RC-1138 Boss

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Quite nice game.

Interesting story. Loved the sequence with Ashe losing her virginity with Zoey and they getting caught later. Now i wonder who is the one who discovered Ashe's secret and is trying to blackmail her. That rape-ish cop Natasha who already "attacked" Ashe twice would be my first suspect. :unsure:

ps: Lexi is quite cute.
 
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lambdadw

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Yes-yes, we need sensual content between MILFs!
At least just a date
You know how to create an atmosphere and a pleasant evening with non lewd scene :giggle:
 

Ciaran8023

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I can't recall if I have posted my thoughts in here or not, but I figured I'd sit down and type shit out.

Overall, it's a fucking phenomenal game with amazing renders and models, general premise is pretty interesting and makes me want to learn even more about the general world and how things came to be how they are. Ashe is a good MC and followed a fairly realistic trajectory and mindset given the circumstances she's in and what she's been through but she's also not without her flaws (and some parts that I find a bit annoying but I'll dig into that a bit later). Overall I can't wait to see where the story goes and what ends up happening as the start thus far has been fantastic.

Now on to some of the characters and developments that I just didn't really vibe with;
Rachel - There's a lot to say about this one. Supposedly she's grown up with Ashe and they spent basically every single hour together, joint at the hip type deal. Despite all of this, one misstep involving alcohol and all of the fucking sudden dear Rachel is dead set on believing that Ashe basically took advantage of her and refuse to believe otherwise. I find this absolutely fucking insane given their relationship prior to all of that happening, and then she decides to basically throw everything away. The fact that she then comes back and tries to act like nothing happened at all and it took Ashe having a literal fucking meltdown and then more time between them before she agreed to even discuss it. Despite all this, Ashe was the one basically having to bend over backwards in order to get anything moderately solved (which is someone I am annoyed with as Ashe just continually takes fat L's yet has to be the one to initiate an apology/action despite that) and even then it doesn't feel like that conversation actually had any substance. I know that this is complete wishful thinking, but if there's ever going to be even a semblance of relationship again between them of any kind, I fucking hope that Rachel is actually the one taking initiative and giving Ashe the option of following through or not.

Zoey - Just absolutely dislike her as a person. She comes off and feels like a manipulative shit-stirrer who seems like a chekov's gun in plain sight that will explode into absolutely idiotic drama later on. I also don't like how Ashe got roped into fucking that creature, but I know that it's been gone over EXTENSIVELY in the thread and I won't really say any more regarding that.

Isabella - It genuinely takes a lot for me to get annoyed unless specific triggers are met, but Isabella is just so INSUFFERABLY annoying that I want to punch her in the fucking face. I've been around enough people in my life that have zero idea about social clues and behaviour and for some reason still maintains an absurd entitlement and tends to bitch if they get called out. That is what I am getting from her and hoo-boy do I want to yeet her through a window.

There are some characters that I really enjoy thus far and find them coming to the forefront of my mind whenever I think about good characters and interactions in VN's.

Fiona - Just an absolute fucking sweetheart of a human. Supportive of Ashe regardless of what happens and just seems like a rock you can depend on through whatever storms that life may throw at you. She might be a filthy MMORPG raider but she's overall just grounded and has a very laidback look on things which is the perfect foil for Ashe's absolute fucking panic most of the time.

Evelyn - Just a really good mother figure in general, she tries her best and goes above and beyond when she thinks it might help and she's always there for a chat whenever Ashe is all fucked up.

Delilah - An endearing little dork who's got a long way before she starts coming out of her shell properly, but she's getting there and taking her chances to do so, despite it being far outside of her comfort zone at times. Her having a crush on Ashe is pretty cute and she comes off as a very realistically naive girl. Looking forward to seeing her grow.


Now for a bit of an annoyance regarding Ashe; I do realize that this game is primarily gauged towards character growth and that we have to start out somewhere for the mess that is Ashe to unravel a bit, and even though we're "only" at 3 or so updates in, it feels like Ashe still has literally negative agency over her life. Most of the time she doesn't even do something herself but she still ends up in a shit situation, taking an L and having to be the bigger woman and somehow try to fix things without the other party even attempting to take any form of accountability. It's a bit exhausting to have a lot of things happening to Ashe during the last updates yet the only small victory that we had in regards to her growth and potentially finding SOME form of self-value is her being able to tell Vanessa that she was an absolute piece of shit for involving Ashe with that joke of a dinner date.

It's like whatever she does, she just gets hammered and she always has to pick up the pieces regardless. I'm sure it'll change with upcoming updates, but I figured I'd just air my grievances a bit. I have nothing against a character who needs development, in fact it's something I love, but there has to be some wins in between losses, even if it's extremely minor ones (i.e calling out Vanessa) as otherwise it just piles up.
 

SerHawkes

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I can't recall if I have posted my thoughts in here or not, but I figured I'd sit down and type shit out.

Overall, it's a fucking phenomenal game with amazing renders and models, general premise is pretty interesting and makes me want to learn even more about the general world and how things came to be how they are. Ashe is a good MC and followed a fairly realistic trajectory and mindset given the circumstances she's in and what she's been through but she's also not without her flaws (and some parts that I find a bit annoying but I'll dig into that a bit later). Overall I can't wait to see where the story goes and what ends up happening as the start thus far has been fantastic.

Now on to some of the characters and developments that I just didn't really vibe with;
Rachel - There's a lot to say about this one. Supposedly she's grown up with Ashe and they spent basically every single hour together, joint at the hip type deal. Despite all of this, one misstep involving alcohol and all of the fucking sudden dear Rachel is dead set on believing that Ashe basically took advantage of her and refuse to believe otherwise. I find this absolutely fucking insane given their relationship prior to all of that happening, and then she decides to basically throw everything away. The fact that she then comes back and tries to act like nothing happened at all and it took Ashe having a literal fucking meltdown and then more time between them before she agreed to even discuss it. Despite all this, Ashe was the one basically having to bend over backwards in order to get anything moderately solved (which is someone I am annoyed with as Ashe just continually takes fat L's yet has to be the one to initiate an apology/action despite that) and even then it doesn't feel like that conversation actually had any substance. I know that this is complete wishful thinking, but if there's ever going to be even a semblance of relationship again between them of any kind, I fucking hope that Rachel is actually the one taking initiative and giving Ashe the option of following through or not.

Zoey - Just absolutely dislike her as a person. She comes off and feels like a manipulative shit-stirrer who seems like a chekov's gun in plain sight that will explode into absolutely idiotic drama later on. I also don't like how Ashe got roped into fucking that creature, but I know that it's been gone over EXTENSIVELY in the thread and I won't really say any more regarding that.

Isabella - It genuinely takes a lot for me to get annoyed unless specific triggers are met, but Isabella is just so INSUFFERABLY annoying that I want to punch her in the fucking face. I've been around enough people in my life that have zero idea about social clues and behaviour and for some reason still maintains an absurd entitlement and tends to bitch if they get called out. That is what I am getting from her and hoo-boy do I want to yeet her through a window.

There are some characters that I really enjoy thus far and find them coming to the forefront of my mind whenever I think about good characters and interactions in VN's.

Fiona - Just an absolute fucking sweetheart of a human. Supportive of Ashe regardless of what happens and just seems like a rock you can depend on through whatever storms that life may throw at you. She might be a filthy MMORPG raider but she's overall just grounded and has a very laidback look on things which is the perfect foil for Ashe's absolute fucking panic most of the time.

Evelyn - Just a really good mother figure in general, she tries her best and goes above and beyond when she thinks it might help and she's always there for a chat whenever Ashe is all fucked up.

Delilah - An endearing little dork who's got a long way before she starts coming out of her shell properly, but she's getting there and taking her chances to do so, despite it being far outside of her comfort zone at times. Her having a crush on Ashe is pretty cute and she comes off as a very realistically naive girl. Looking forward to seeing her grow.


Now for a bit of an annoyance regarding Ashe; I do realize that this game is primarily gauged towards character growth and that we have to start out somewhere for the mess that is Ashe to unravel a bit, and even though we're "only" at 3 or so updates in, it feels like Ashe still has literally negative agency over her life. Most of the time she doesn't even do something herself but she still ends up in a shit situation, taking an L and having to be the bigger woman and somehow try to fix things without the other party even attempting to take any form of accountability. It's a bit exhausting to have a lot of things happening to Ashe during the last updates yet the only small victory that we had in regards to her growth and potentially finding SOME form of self-value is her being able to tell Vanessa that she was an absolute piece of shit for involving Ashe with that joke of a dinner date.

It's like whatever she does, she just gets hammered and she always has to pick up the pieces regardless. I'm sure it'll change with upcoming updates, but I figured I'd just air my grievances a bit. I have nothing against a character who needs development, in fact it's something I love, but there has to be some wins in between losses, even if it's extremely minor ones (i.e calling out Vanessa) as otherwise it just piles up.
For me Rachel is going to be the golden one, likely the last we catch. And I think that it's not the alcohol event that caused the problems really, but likely some unrequited love. I think Rachels bitch friend people has had a thing for Ashe, but because Ashe is Ashe and other issues, never picked up on it, but Rachel knows and such. BUT, I do also think and believe that Rachel probably has some feelings for Ashe on her own as well, but is trying to be respectful of sorts to her friend.

With Zoey, I think maybe your jumping the gun a bit. I think she is more fun time fun rather than manipulative fun. Not to mention we just met her so there isn't really alot to go off of. Could she be a chaos succubus, maybe. I'm willing to let myself get burned though.

As for Bella, she is pretty much akin to SGs Bella: Chaotic, kinda above it all, bit narcisistic. But, kinda again with Zoey, we don't really know her all that well, as we've only really seen one side of her. Maybe there is a side of her that is kinda softer and such. -Shrugs-
 

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For me Rachel is going to be the golden one, likely the last we catch. And I think that it's not the alcohol event that caused the problems really, but likely some unrequited love. I think Rachels bitch friend people has had a thing for Ashe, but because Ashe is Ashe and other issues, never picked up on it, but Rachel knows and such. BUT, I do also think and believe that Rachel probably has some feelings for Ashe on her own as well, but is trying to be respectful of sorts to her friend.
I mean if there's any possibility, I'd rather not be involved with Rachel. Regardless of whatever the reasons may be, the fact that she basically took a nuke to their entire relationship is enough to sour me on that character.
There's just no excuse for torching what's supposed to be a meaningful and deep relationship and you can't really come back from that unless Ashe just perpetually decides to never grow a backbone, but again it's a VN and doesn't mirror real life so I'm dead positive that there's zero chance of avoiding Rachel and I don't think she'll have a good enough redemption for me, but that might just be because I've been around family members falling out in real life and I truthfully cannot recall a single instance where that was mended in a proper way.

But, whatever drives the narrative, unfortunately. Also, I HIGHLY doubt that she has feelings but is trying to be respectful to her friend as the only two friends we KNOW are involved with both Rachel and Ashe, is Fiona and Bella.
Fiona and Ashe doesn't have a romantic relationship and has never had anything of the kind, and I doubt Fiona had something for Ashe during the time where she dated Rachel.

Isabella on the other hand, Ashe and her have ALWAYS had fights and Rachel didn't do anything to remedy it, hence why I don't think that thesis holds any weight.

With Zoey, I think maybe your jumping the gun a bit. I think she is more fun time fun rather than manipulative fun. Not to mention we just met her so there isn't really alot to go off of. Could she be a chaos succubus, maybe. I'm willing to let myself get burned though.
Her fun IS manipulative fun. The entire fact that we really haven't met her much and she off the bat initiates something that can easily turn into a very complex interpersonal situation between Ashe and Fiona or Fiona and her little sister gives me enough of an inkling as to what type of individual she is. She didn't think about consequences a single time and just played her own agenda. That isn't "chaotic", that's malicious.

As for Bella, she is pretty much akin to SGs Bella: Chaotic, kinda above it all, bit narcisistic. But, kinda again with Zoey, we don't really know her all that well, as we've only really seen one side of her. Maybe there is a side of her that is kinda softer and such. -Shrugs-
I will say, SG is my favourite game and Bella is my favourite character, so I almost feel slightly offended that there's a correlation drawn there. With SG, you could tell Bella has something that drives her behaviour to be the way that it is, sure it just may be how SG is great at telling a story with subtleties, but EI Bella has had NO indication of any type of behaviour other than a narcissistic idiot who either knowingly pushes Ashe's buttons as much as humanly possible, or unknowingly does so and then takes offense when Ashe goes off.
I just can't see anything other than rage-bait when I look at her character. Sure, it might be a case of unreliable narrator but if the dev actively chooses to not let us see anything but that, there's no reason for us to assume that there's anything but that.

Also, I'd say Vanessa is more like SG's Bella, behavioural wise.
 
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Dessolos

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I mean if there's any possibility, I'd rather not be involved with Rachel. Regardless of whatever the reasons may be, the fact that she basically took a nuke to their entire relationship is enough to sour me on that character.
There's just no excuse for torching what's supposed to be a meaningful and deep relationship and you can't really come back from that unless Ashe just perpetually decides to never grow a backbone, but again it's a VN and doesn't mirror real life so I'm dead positive that there's zero chance of avoiding Rachel and I don't think she'll have a good enough redemption for me, but that might just be because I've been around family members falling out in real life and I truthfully cannot recall a single instance where that was mended in a proper way.
For me alot of the reason I like Rachel and able to look past alot of these issues you have comes down to a few things. As far as I can remember Rachel does feel guilty and remorseful for cutting Ashe out like that. This is also speculation as I feel I need to see some of her scenes again but I think she probably is scared of these feelings she that she has deep down which is why she needed time away.

But the most important thing for me is this , while what she did was shitty wasnt so horrible it's unredeemable. The fact that she is family makes me want to be more leant on her and her actions. Because there is nothing worse than lost time in my opinion with someone you care for unless they did something horrible. I consider what she did shitty not horrible now if it went on for years than perhaps id consider it horrible and unredeemable. Sure they lost a year together but it's only a year and if I was Ashe I would hate to lose any more time with her sister. But I think it simply comes down to a personality and life experience difference too as to why I feel this way as I cant disagree with your original post either but I can overlook the issues is the difference I think between you and me.
 

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For me alot of the reason I like Rachel and able to look past alot of these issues you have comes down to a few things. As far as I can remember Rachel does feel guilty and remorseful for cutting Ashe out like that. This is also speculation as I feel I need to see some of her scenes again but I think she probably is scared of these feelings she that she has deep down which is why she needed time away.

But the most important thing for me is this , while what she did was shitty wasnt so horrible it's unredeemable. The fact that she is family makes me want to be more leant on her and her actions. Because there is nothing worse than lost time in my opinion with someone you care for unless they did something horrible. I consider what she did shitty not horrible now if it went on for years than perhaps id consider it horrible and unredeemable. Sure they lost a year together but it's only a year and if I was Ashe I would hate to lose any more time with her sister. But I think it simply comes down to a personality and life experience difference too as to why I feel this way as I cant disagree with your original post either but I can overlook the issues is the difference I think between you and me.
Yeah I think this is the key point to take away from that.
In my eyes, the fact that they are family and were incredibly tight-knit makes it far worse in my eyes, and also makes Rachel's behaviour strangely erratic in a lot of ways. Rachel knew that Ashe was hiding something (her duplo status) when growing up (IIRC atleast) yet instead of trying her best to earn Ashe's trust and lean on the fact that they were incredibly close, she simply threw a complete fit and nuked the relationship and then tried to act like nothing happened.

It just seems so nonchalant, immature and disrespectful towards Ashe from my eyes. But again, we likely just have vastly different life experiences and I am a lot less tolerant of people like that.
 
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