VN Ren'Py Eruption Imminent [v0.5.1] [MorriganRae]

[TheLecher]

With Fiona and Delilah knowing already and being supportive, telling the next person should be easier.

I really don't think this would be the case. Consider the ways in which anti-duplo sentiment has been stressed in the story, so far.

1. We've been told more than once that duplos are generally looked down upon by the vast majority of society, and that most people tend to think of duplos as being cheating horndogs at best, and closeted rapists at worst.
2. We've been told that at least one of the major religious institutions in this world actually teaches that duplos are descended from demons.
3. We've been told that a high profile duplo who was outed publicly may have committed suicide as a result - whether that be due to losing her social media prominence, or fear of financial ruin, or because of shame at having been exposed as a liar, or whatever.

Given how often the point has been stressed to us, and all of the different ways that we've been shown the bias against duplos, I really don't think that Ashe is going to suddenly feel at ease about her status, just because two friends she has known for years turned out to be understanding and supportive. I mean, her family has been understanding and supportive all her life long, and that didn't make it any easier for her to tell Fiona.

Lexi I feel like would be accepting, specially given her 'skill issue'.

What is her "skill issue"? Do you mean the fact that Lexi isn't particularly well hung? If so, why would that make her more accepting of duplos?

 

[DeemLeem12]

It removes much of player agency when 3 possible paths are laid out as distinct linear paths. It would have been better if the game continued along and our choices as Ashe adds to dominant point, submissive point, or cuck point. The events would then play out depending on our choices or new ones will emerge with the combination of choices.

 

[Kontralta]

It removes much of player agency when 3 possible paths are laid out as distinct linear paths. It would have been better if the game continued along and our choices as Ashe adds to dominant point, submissive point, or cuck point. The events would then play out depending on our choices or new ones will emerge with the combination of choices.

You can go all the paths.

 

[MagicMan753]

It removes much of player agency when 3 possible paths are laid out as distinct linear paths. It would have been better if the game continued along and our choices as Ashe adds to dominant point, submissive point, or cuck point. The events would then play out depending on our choices or new ones will emerge with the combination of choices.

It has already been stated that the three paths are not linear, they will define your personality and give route specific choices and scenes, but you can still be a dom on the kitten path or the cuck path you can have sex, you won't be just watching and so on..., so the paths aren't linear, it is just added story elements with extra route specific choices that you don't need to click if you don't want to.

 

[Knight_of_the_lance]

I really don't think this would be the case. Consider the ways in which anti-duplo sentiment has been stressed in the story, so far.

1. We've been told more than once that duplos are generally looked down upon by the vast majority of society, and that most people tend to think of duplos as being cheating horndogs at best, and closeted rapists at worst.
2. We've been told that at least one of the major religious institutions in this world actually teaches that duplos are descended from demons.
3. We've been told that a high profile duplo who was outed publicly may have committed suicide as a result - whether that be due to losing her social media prominence, or fear of financial ruin, or because of shame at having been exposed as a liar, or whatever.

Given how often the point has been stressed to us, and all of the different ways that we've been shown the bias against duplos, I really don't think that Ashe is going to suddenly feel at ease about her status, just because two friends she has known for years turned out to be understanding and supportive. I mean, her family has been understanding and supportive all her life long, and that didn't make it any easier for her to tell Fiona.

To that I would answer that the first point has no basis from what we know except maybe that Ashe has a particularly active libido. While I understand that what is important here is not the reality but what people think. People that already know Ashe might not use that generalization/myth (préjugé in French) to judge her. To the second point I would say that I have seen that most religions have their counterculture and not everyone follow the creed to a t. Sure you would not come out to someone that was religious. For example she should not come out to someone carrying the equivalent of a cross even if they get somewhat close. I haven't seen a character that was branded a religious yet. About the third point, it was precisely this story that pushed Ashe to come out to Fiona. Granted now that she told her best friend it might have the inverse effect but it is a bit soon to tell.

Now the next person Ashe will tell might be one that have a lot of development in the next episode since beyond the characters that already know the story does not tell us of other close relations. But Ashe's status should become easier to bear the more support she gets. Or that could backfire with a religious uprising making her more anxious that so many people know of her secret. Right now four or five person only are aware with one threatening to take the coming out from Ashe's hands.

 

[Hungover00]

To that I would answer that the first point has no basis from what we know except maybe that Ashe has a particularly active libido. While I understand that what is important here is not the reality but what people think. People that already know Ashe might not use that generalization/myth (préjugé in French) to judge her. To the second point I would say that I have seen that most religions have their counterculture and not everyone follow the creed to a t. Sure you would not come out to someone that was religious. For example she should not come out to someone carrying the equivalent of a cross even if they get somewhat close. I haven't seen a character that was branded a religious yet. About the third point, it was precisely this story that pushed Ashe to come out to Fiona. Granted now that she told her best friend it might have the inverse effect but it is a bit soon to tell.

Now the next person Ashe will tell might be one that have a lot of development in the next episode since beyond the characters that already know the story does not tell us of other close relations. But Ashe's status should become easier to bear the more support she gets. Or that could backfire with a religious uprising making her more anxious that so many people know of her secret. Right now four or five person only are aware with one threatening to take the coming out from Ashe's hands.

I wonder, since there is no clear candidate for Ashe to reveal the truth to, whether Ashe will reveal the truth to everyone, and have a public coming out.

 

[Knight_of_the_lance]

I wonder, since there is no clear candidate for Ashe to reveal the truth to, whether Ashe will reveal the truth to everyone, and have a public coming out.

That is one sure way to end the blackmail scheme against her, but the blackmailer would loose their leverage and disappear most likely and we would not get to know who that is. It would force the reveal in a situation where the blackmail becomes too much. I think that even if at some point if Ashe has the desire for a public reveal if the blackmailer is still a mystery she would hold it until that is solved so she can go after them.

I think we will get at least a few more private reveal before Ashe goes public. As you said though there are no clear next candidate for that discussion so it will either be an impulsive reveal or it will be after some continued development in the next episode. IMO the next best candidate is Vanessa with the "real" date incoming she will inevitably have character development in this next episode. That could be an opportunity.

There is also Natasha, particularly in the Kitten path, but for her it seems more tied to a specific path than the general story. Unless in the other paths Nat decide to catch up with the girl ignoring her or sending others in her stead we wont get an even development with her. Despite her pushy nature, as a character that bring out emotions when she is on screen, I still find her interesting.

Be my gest if you have other ideas as to which character might be next. A public reveal is a given in my mind but definitely not soon.

 

[Hungover00]

That is one sure way to end the blackmail scheme against her, but the blackmailer would loose their leverage and disappear most likely and we would not get to know who that is. It would force the reveal in a situation where the blackmail becomes too much. I think that even if at some point if Ashe has the desire for a public reveal if the blackmailer is still a mystery she would hold it until that is solved so she can go after them.

I think we will get at least a few more private reveal before Ashe goes public. As you said though there are no clear next candidate for that discussion so it will either be an impulsive reveal or it will be after some continued development in the next episode. IMO the next best candidate is Vanessa with the "real" date incoming she will inevitably have character development in this next episode. That could be an opportunity.

There is also Natasha, particularly in the Kitten path, but for her it seems more tied to a specific path than the general story. Unless in the other paths Nat decide to catch up with the girl ignoring her or sending others in her stead we wont get an even development with her. Despite her pushy nature, as a character that bring out emotions when she is on screen, I still find her interesting.

Be my gest if you have other ideas as to which character might be next. A public reveal is a given in my mind but definitely not soon.

I kind of believe the opposite. Your theory may carry the day though.

But, if we take an example and say Delilah is the blackmailer, Ashe having a public revelation would put the blackmail into a back seat, out of focus, but would allow for it to be revealed at a powerful time when D & A get closer together. At that point it would hopefully be less destructive, and would rather add some texture and spice to Delilah and Ashe's connection. Not enough to blow it up, but enough to stress test it, and show where fault lines may appear.

This is all weaving tapestries from clouds, so I will not be surprised if I am drastically incorrect.

 

[Knight_of_the_lance]

I kind of believe the opposite. Your theory may carry the day though.

But, if we take an example and say Delilah is the blackmailer, Ashe having a public revelation would put the blackmail into a back seat, out of focus, but would allow for it to be revealed at a powerful time when D & A get closer together. At that point it would hopefully be less destructive, and would rather add some texture and spice to Delilah and Ashe's connection. Not enough to blow it up, but enough to stress test it, and show where fault lines may appear.

This is all weaving tapestries from clouds, so I will not be surprised if I am drastically incorrect.

I just wonder which of our theories will stick. One of us is bound to be at least partially right. Either way, the way Morrigan write her story, what she has in mind will make sense. At least that part is a relief. We have all seen stories go left field in unjustified ways.

 

[Dessolos]

Not sure if this would make for good story telling not sure . But on some level I secretly hope when Vanessa finds out about Ashe's secret it's because Ashe ask for her help with the blackmailer . Since to me that would show trust not only in Vanessa but perhaps show Ashe thinks she is a better person that we have seen so far if she thinks she would help and trust her enough to tell her something big.

I know won't play out like this most likely but hey I can hope haha

 

[Jynx3d]

Not sure if this would make for good story telling not sure . But on some level I secretly hope when Vanessa finds out about Ashe's secret it's because Ashe ask for her help with the blackmailer . Since to me that would show trust not only in Vanessa but perhaps show Ashe thinks she is a better person that we have seen so far if she thinks she would help and trust her enough to tell her something big.

I know won't play out like this most likely but hey I can hope haha

And then they will find out that the blackmailer is actually Moira getting revenge on them for what they did to her girlfriend (even tho it was all Vanessas doing) since she may still thinks Ashe is Vanessa's girlfriend.

 

[Knight_of_the_lance]

And then they will find out that the blackmailer is actually Moira getting revenge on them for what they did to her girlfriend (even tho it was all Vanessas doing) since she may still thinks Ashe is Vanessa's girlfriend.

I think beside Jessica thinking Ashe a gold digger, Moira had more the impression that Ashe was only there because her daughter had dragged her there. Possibly be an escort. But she took quite the interest in Ashe in her own words. I don't think she is petty enough to go after Ashe for something Vanessa did. But as a mobile to blackmail it is enough in some circumstances. Moira is trying for reelection so I doubt she has time for blackmailing a pizza delivery girl and it is the kind of thing that could blow back in a spectacular way in her face. Definitely not worth the risk. Prior to 0.4 she was my favorite suspect but the way blackmail was done in 0.4 gave me clues to conclude that the chances it might be her are verry low.

 

[Dessolos]

I think beside Jessica thinking Ashe a gold digger, Moira had more the impression that Ashe was only there because her daughter had dragged her there. Possibly be an escort. But she took quite the interest in Ashe in her own words. I don't think she is petty enough to go after Ashe for something Vanessa did. But as a mobile to blackmail it is enough in some circumstances. Moira is trying for reelection so I doubt she has time for blackmailing a pizza delivery girl and it is the kind of thing that could blow back in a spectacular way in her face. Definitely not worth the risk. Prior to 0.4 she was my favorite suspect but the way blackmail was done in 0.4 gave me clues to conclude that the chances it might be her are verry low.

i'm starting to think we haven't even see the blackmailer in the game yet. Alot of the suspects are just part of the mystery and nothing else. Even my # 1 suspect also has reason to not do it as I doubt she would want to be malicious towards Ashe.

 

[SerHawkes]

Wait till we are balls deep in Vanessa, having on hell of a moment, we're about to pull out when Vanessa's mom bursts open the door, likely to have a serious talk with her daughter, only for Vanessa to clamp down hard and take it like a champ, likely to spite her mom and her bullshit.

-All for those super awkward walk in moments...-

 

[Lurcher1]

Another Vanessa angle is Moira could be one of those super anti-duplo extremists. Imagine Vanessa finding out and taking Ashe partly to spite her mother...

 

[Kontralta]

Be my gest if you have other ideas as to which character might be next.

It could be Isabella. The rest, except Vanessa, will most likely find out optionally, depending on the path, like the Kitten's path, in which Natasha learns Ash's secret. Simply because everyone Ashe regularly communicates with already knows everything.
Or it could be a completely new character.

 

[Kontralta]

Another Vanessa angle is Moira could be one of those super anti-duplo extremists. Imagine Vanessa finding out and taking Ashe partly to spite her mother...

I didn't want Vanessa to be with Ashe just to spite her mother. She deserves some love because she was able to remain a good person despite her environment and the pressure on her.

 

[Dessolos]

I didn't want Vanessa to be with Ashe just to spite her mother. She deserves some love because she was able to remain a good person despite her environment and the pressure on her.

This right here. I feel like if she did that would erase any good she has done or will do. That and it would made the scene where her facial expression where she felt bad for what she did after Ashe called her out feel pointless to me. As that scene to me showed how Vanessa's character is going to change to be better in the future ( at least towards Ashe). But if she is going to be with Ashe to get back at her mom wouldn't make sense to make her seem like she cares to the player, be like clickbait imo.

 

[Mihawkgod]

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The bad bitch! While my main ship is still FionaXAshe and this is most likely gonna be a harem type game. If there is a femxfuta ending, i hope its with her.

 

[c.mork]

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