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Replaying the story over again it seems like Isabella isnt quite the one dimensional mean girl at first thought. It seems to me that she really did have a crush on Ashe for a long time and acted out to get her attention. Than that scene in the living room where she got Ashe to blow up on her it seemed to me that the reason why Isabella got on her because she was jealous and thought Ashe was again choosing Vanessa over her. I could be wrong of course.
Yeah, Rachel mentioned this episode that some people had befriended her to try and get closer to Ashe, and I wouldn't be surprised if Bella was one of them, she's definitely attracted to her.
 

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yeah that makes sense for what we’ve seen with her so far. Hopefully we can cuck Cleo on the siren path.
I don't want to forget about Isabella, but only because I don't trust her.
While I don't want anything to do with her, my concern is that her vapid, shallow, narcissistic, and uncaring nature will have a negative effect on Rachel.
Considering what Ashe overheard Isabella try to get Rachel to agree to when first visiting the student's home, I'd be worried about Isabella ever getting her way.
Plus she's a serious bitch, so if anyone should be cucked, it should be her.
 

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Just got done playing it and my thoughts are mixed and bit disappointed on the Siren route felt like there where many missed opportunities.

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Overall if I had to rate them I give Kitten route a 10 , Siren a 6 and Cuck route a 4, this update is by far one of the shortest and also weakest out of all of them I think I liked the older updates much better when it was just one single route better than now that there are 3 in the game just feels worse in my personal opinion it also doesnt hold a candle compared to Having a Hard Times Last update which I thought it was a masterpiece solid 10/10 but its at least entertaining enough to play when bored or for fun considering there aren't that many futa games out there.
 
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Alright, this is an objective view on things 0.5.0:
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Glad to see some opinions differ from my own.

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In spite of what certain members seem to be implying I have said repeatedly that it isn't that there are no differences, it's where, when and how those differences take place that I have issues. I've gone into the what and why repeatedly as well. Which gets conveniently ignored.

Replaying the story over again it seems like Isabella isnt quite the one dimensional mean girl at first thought. It seems to me that she really did have a crush on Ashe for a long time and acted out to get her attention. Than that scene in the living room where she got Ashe to blow up on her it seemed to me that the reason why Isabella got on her because she was jealous and thought Ashe was again choosing Vanessa over her. I could be wrong of course.
Isabella is trying to do the mean girl tease flirt, but she's not reading the one she's trying to flirt with well. Probably due to inexperience. I'm not sure if she's jealous per say or if she just also wants that kind of attention.

I don't want to forget about Isabella, but only because I don't trust her.
While I don't want anything to do with her, my concern is that her vapid, shallow, narcissistic, and uncaring nature will have a negative effect on Rachel.
Considering what Ashe overheard Isabella try to get Rachel to agree to when first visiting the student's home, I'd be worried about Isabella ever getting her way.
Plus she's a serious bitch, so if anyone should be cucked, it should be her.
I kinda want Ashe to cuck and fuck both her and Cleo. Would be hot to shut her bitching mouth with your schlong.
 

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I kinda want Ashe to cuck and fuck both her and Cleo. Would be hot to shut her bitching mouth with your schlong.
While I can certainly understand that sentiment, it would probably give her pleasure, and I have no interest in ever doing that.
In my humble opinion, the best possible outcome for Isabella would be: She and Cleo move out to an apartment overtop a gym, and they're never heard from again.
I hate bullies, regardless of their motivations.
 

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Is Cleo actually a bully tho? Isabella I can understand but Cleo seems like the kind of person that would probably help Ashe out at the gym and give her pointers.
 
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Is Cleo actually a bully tho? Isabella I can understand but Cleo seems like the kind of person that would probably help Ashe out at the gym and give her pointers.
I haven't played 0.5 but I got that impression too. Like anything she does that could be portrayed as bullying is more likely just her being too ignorant and stupid to know any better instead of genuine malice.
 
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Is Cleo actually a bully tho? Isabella I can understand but Cleo seems like the kind of person that would probably help Ashe out at the gym and give her pointers.
Yeah she is not a bully but is very dumb to the point where she cant understand what she does and because of that ashe can easily cuck her without her knowing. That why i hope in the next update on the siren path we get some action with Evelyn,Isabella and rachel.
 

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Patch seems to be just gone. Not sure if it needed to be updated to 0.5 first, but there being no file in the link is odd.
 

robin312

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If you already have the previous Mac version you can download the windows version and replace the “game” folder in the app (right-click -> show package contents) and replace it with the game folder from the windows version.
thanks I know that trick,
Just didn't want to patch game manually
 

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I played two routes (not all variations yet, but still) siren and kitten (I'm not a cuck route enjoyer, so I can't rate it properly) and they are great from my point of view

Ashe did the best she could do right now for both routes. You can't just decide to change you life and became completely different person overnight
 
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I played two routes (not all variations yet, but still) siren and kitten (I'm not a cuck route enjoyer, so I can't rate it properly) and they are great from my point of view

Ashe did the best she could do right now for both routes. You can't just decide to change you life and became completely different person overnight

There are no content with a side characters, but they are side characters, not main ones, so it's OK
What do you mean no content with side characters? There is content with side girls, there are only 5-6 main love interests, the rest are side characters.
 
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Yep, you wrote that and I immediately understood that I don't know who main LIs are
The main Li's are Evelyn, Rachel, Fiona, Delilah, Vanessa, for sure. And I am pretty sure Kate might be too, unsure about her.
Besides those the rest are side girls, who will still get content, but be less focus and some may on all routes, some may be a little more route locked, like Lexi's main route is siren, but she will get some scenes in the other two routes just be less of a focus on those routes, same goes for other characters.
 
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I'm new in this stuff bro, what do you mean by incest patch? Thanks in advance!
if i may ask for what is an incest patch needed???
what is different??
i think sooner or later Ashe will rail her Mom and Sister anyway even without patch.
For both of you, as I think the only replies to your questions - Alabama joke aside - failed to accurately explain the situation.

And since Wilmer is new, here's what to know about this game (and A LOT of other games). Most adult visual novels and/ or porn games that feature implied incest do not overtly label it as such. Consequently, when you play as the MC in a game, the person that is supposed to be your mother is labeled "landlady" or "mentor" and your sister is "roommate" or "friend." Thus, all of the relationships are modified so that there is technically no incest happening between characters.

Some games allow you to manually set the relationships and you can even change the nicknames for characters to play into these relationships but many do not. Therefore, an incest patch is a modification to the game's code that changes all references to the characters and their relationships to reflect who they are actually supposed to be (or just who, in your incest-fueled fantasy, want them to be).

There are many reasons for this, but here's one of the biggest: MasterCard. See, most game developers do this as a passion project... you know, for the love of art and storytelling (and a good fap). But creating a porn game is A LOT OF WORK. Therefore, most ask for money via donations, subscriptions etc. In order to accept payment, many developers use existing platforms to facilitate these transactions, namely Patreon and Subscribestar. These platforms allow game developers to monetize their work and build communities with their fans. In order to function and provide the services they promise, these platforms have to operate within the framework designated to them by both the government (you know, laws) as well as the dictates of vendor partners that provide necessary services upon which THEY rely in order to operate.

Patreon is arguably the biggest and most popular resource for game developers. Game developers rely upon it to make enough money to support themselves because some have even left their jobs to attempt to be a developer full-time. Patreon was pressured a few years back to acquiesce to MasterCard's standards for adult content - which, among other things, included a prohibition on incest. Since MasterCard has over a BILLION credit cards in circulation (totaling 32% of all credit card payments internationally), it would be detrimental to Patreon's business to lose the ability to process effectively 1/3 of all transactions through the website.

So, Patreon adjusted their policies and said if an adult porn game wanted to be on Patreon and use their platform, the game could not (among other things) have open incest. Hence the common "landlady" and "roommate" workaround. There may be other requirements or hoops that a developer has to jump through to meet Patreon standards, but I am not a developer so hopefully one of them can chime in if you still have other questions.
 
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For both of you, as I think the only replies to your questions - Alabama joke aside - failed to accurately explain the situation.

And since Wilmer is new, here's what to know about this game (and A LOT of other games). Most adult visual novels and/ or porn games that feature implied incest do not overtly label it as such. Consequently, when you play as the MC in a game, the person that is supposed to be your mother is labeled "landlady" or "mentor" and your sister is "roommate" or "friend." Thus, all of the relationships are modified so that there is technically no incest happening between characters.

Some games allow you to manually set the relationships and you can even change the nicknames for characters to play into these relationships but many do not. Therefore, an incest patch is a modification to the game's code that changes all references to the characters and their relationships to reflect who they are actually supposed to be (or just who, in your incest-fueled fantasy, want them to be).

There are many reasons for this, but here's one of the biggest: MasterCard. See, most game developers do this as a passion project... you know, for the love of art and storytelling (and a good fap). But creating a porn game is A LOT OF WORK. Therefore, most ask for money via donations, subscriptions etc. In order to accept payment, many developers use existing platforms to facilitate these transactions, namely Patreon and Subscribestar. These platforms allow game developers to monetize their work and build communities with their fans. In order to function and provide the services they promise, these platforms have to operate within the framework designated to them by both the government (you know, laws) as well as the dictates of vendor partners that provide necessary services upon which THEY rely in order to operate.

Patreon is arguably the biggest and most popular resource for game developers. Game developers rely upon it to make enough money to support themselves because some have even left their jobs to attempt to be a developer full-time. Patreon was pressured a few years back to acquiesce to MasterCard's standards for adult content - which, among other things, included a prohibition on incest. Since MasterCard has over a BILLION credit cards in circulation (totaling 32% of all credit card payments internationally), it would be detrimental to Patreon's business to lose the ability to process effectively 1/3 of all transactions through the website.

So, Patreon adjusted their policies and said if an adult porn game wanted to be on Patreon and use their platform, the game could not (among other things) have open incest. Hence the common "landlady" and "roommate" workaround. There may be other requirements or hoops that a developer has to jump through to meet Patreon standards, but I am not a developer so hopefully one of them can chime in if you still have other questions.
no shit sherlock really now??? :rolleyes::rolleyes:
i asked because i had never needed a incest patch to name the mom well mom in this game.
i never needed a updated patch for a new version the mother was just the mother in every game update.

you wasted a lot of text written here..... :sleep::sleep:
 
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If you're gonna do any sort of thing Patreon doesn't allow (in this case incest) Patreon will shut you down. Even if you post it off-platform via patch, different provider, discord, whatever. It is only a matter of time before they get you. Seen it happen with multiple creators that got shutdown even though they had nothing Patreon didn't allow on their page.

The only option is to not use them period. It's a ticking timebomb. As a creator I would NEVER use Patreon. The risk is too big. They can lock your account out of nowhere leaving all your funds in limbo.
 
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liked update but feels like such a waste not to be able see what was going on with the sis during her maid service. Would legit be a great chance to switch pov during those times
I agree. It was heavily implied to the player what happened... even Ashe knows something is up, So why leave it as a up in the air thing when it's clear to all parties something happened? I don't really get it maybe dev has something more planned for that specific interaction in a future update.
 

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I've already seen the new content and I must say that I have some mixed feelings, the good thing is that the art is still very beautiful, the settings and characters look great and the music goes well with the atmosphere, even though I liked the chapter quite a bit (especially the Kitty route) it felt unsatisfying, as if it ended before the big climax and you're left frustrated.
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A funny thing is that in the Kitty Route we can escape from Natasha by kicking her in the balls, which is the most Alpha thing Ashe has ever done so I hereby declare Ashe Kitty the true Dom.
:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
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