VN Ren'Py Eruption Imminent [v0.6.1] [MorriganRae]

[MorriganRae]

Episode 5 - Progress Report #14

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[lambdadw]

My humble comment went unnoticed in the heat of the heated debate that reigned here...
My spoken English is poor, my salary is far from a dollar, and I just adore this cozy game without the desire to argue about the wording, so I will repeat my proposal:

I think that for previews and specials we should have a separate post with links in the header, as is done for some games here. Promo materials, so to speak

 

[EpicWinger]

Just played through the game, It wasn't that bad but nothing really clicked for me. Hope it continues as there is a serious lack of good futa content out here though. Probably brought up before but only real complaint is that you lose your virginity to zoey. Feels like a cop out, even if she really wanted to lose her virginity it could have been done better, feels really forced and honestly ruined some of the story for me. Really hoping it woulda been a choice, especially since it was at the sleepover with 2 other good choices (Being able to choose one of the 3 or Kate, woulda been what I would have done if I knew how to make games. Though I can guess it probably wont get retconned or anything which is sad). Personally I would of chosen the rich girl or the mom, would of been more enjoyable.

Thanks for the game though. Keep it up.

 

[armion82]

Just played through the game, It wasn't that bad but nothing really clicked for me. Hope it continues as there is a serious lack of good futa content out here though. Probably brought up before but only real complaint is that you lose your virginity to zoey. Feels like a cop out, even if she really wanted to lose her virginity it could have been done better, feels really forced and honestly ruined some of the story for me. Really hoping it woulda been a choice, especially since it was at the sleepover with 2 other good choices (Being able to choose one of the 3 or Kate, woulda been what I would have done if I knew how to make games. Though I can guess it probably wont get retconned or anything which is sad). Personally I would of chosen the rich girl or the mom, would of been more enjoyable.

Thanks for the game though. Keep it up.

Vanessa was my choice too.

 

[LordWanze]

Just played through the game, It wasn't that bad but nothing really clicked for me. Hope it continues as there is a serious lack of good futa content out here though. Probably brought up before but only real complaint is that you lose your virginity to zoey. Feels like a cop out, even if she really wanted to lose her virginity it could have been done better, feels really forced and honestly ruined some of the story for me. Really hoping it woulda been a choice, especially since it was at the sleepover with 2 other good choices (Being able to choose one of the 3 or Kate, woulda been what I would have done if I knew how to make games. Though I can guess it probably wont get retconned or anything which is sad). Personally I would of chosen the rich girl or the mom, would of been more enjoyable.

Thanks for the game though. Keep it up.

Yeah many weren't happy about that, myself included.
Was basically a cop out decision to make branching simpler.
Didn't help that dev decided to force this ugly slut onto the player.
Of course accompanied with a forced blowjob scene with the friend, either watching or doing it.
My hope from here on out is that, since the actual branching started, we won't be forced into such situations again, the save games aren't completely bombed, so I won't have to skip through it again, and that I can treat the slut as badly as possible going forward.

That being said, still one of the best futa games out there, full stop.

 

[Dessolos]

Just played through the game, It wasn't that bad but nothing really clicked for me. Hope it continues as there is a serious lack of good futa content out here though. Probably brought up before but only real complaint is that you lose your virginity to zoey. Feels like a cop out, even if she really wanted to lose her virginity it could have been done better, feels really forced and honestly ruined some of the story for me. Really hoping it woulda been a choice, especially since it was at the sleepover with 2 other good choices (Being able to choose one of the 3 or Kate, woulda been what I would have done if I knew how to make games. Though I can guess it probably wont get retconned or anything which is sad). Personally I would of chosen the rich girl or the mom, would of been more enjoyable.

Thanks for the game though. Keep it up.

im mixed on the whole Zoey thing. I really like her but felt it was too soon for anything sexual that might be because I do not like it when LI are easy to have sex with right away before I get to know them a little. Tho I do prefer to go on a date or 2 first but not everyone likes slow burn.

 

[Abaddon Doom]

The fact that Morrigan took away the player's decision, as to who Ashe lost her virginity too...was a mistake. I wouldn't have chosen Zoey in a hundred years, she's attractive enough...but losing her 'V' should have meant more than it did. It felt shoe-horned into the storyline. I'm hoping, moving forward, that player decisions will take more of a center stage.

 

[dolfe67]

Maybe it would have been better to happen in the past (before the game starts), so people wouldn't complain they were forced to watch it with Zoey

 

[Dessolos]

The fact that Morrigan took away the player's decision, as to who Ashe lost her virginity too...was a mistake. I wouldn't have chosen Zoey in a hundred years, she's attractive enough...but losing her 'V' should have meant more than it did. It felt shoe-horned into the storyline. I'm hoping, moving forward, that player decisions will take more of a center stage.

While true I do think there is more to it than her losing her V card. Won't know till more updates but I do think it's connected to the blackmail somehow even if Zoey or Dalilah don't end up being the blackmailer.

 

[Abaddon Doom]

Delilah...a blackmailer! That would be adorable. Zoey on the other hand is definitely worth the watching!

 

[SerHawkes]

People really complaining that our gal Ashe lost 1/3 v cards? -smh-

 

[Dessolos]

People really complaining that our gal Ashe lost 1/3 v cards? -smh-

I mean it's a fair complaint not everyone likes to give it up quick and easy at least I don't. Especially because there is no choice. Doesn't matter to me if the MC is a virgin or not which is why LI that are easy to sleep with usually are near the bottom of my list until they prove to me they are a good character beyond being a easy fuck.

 

[ItsNotUs]

The fact that Morrigan took away the player's decision, as to who Ashe lost her virginity too...was a mistake. I wouldn't have chosen Zoey in a hundred years, she's attractive enough...but losing her 'V' should have meant more than it did. It felt shoe-horned into the storyline. I'm hoping, moving forward, that player decisions will take more of a center stage.

Why does it bother everyone so much that she had sex for the first time and with whom?
If there was a male MC in this game, no one would even whine about this!

 

[Dessolos]

If there was a male MC in this game, no one would even whine about this!

idk ive seen people complain over similar things in Male MC games. While I don't like it , I don't really whine or complain about it unless someone brings the topic up then I'll state my opinion to get a conversation going but otherwise I keep it to myself.

 

[Abaddon Doom]

SerHawkes ... what is the point of having a player controlled character, who operates independently in important situations? If you are the character, you should be deciding everything. [related to your character]
And the game, quest, achievement system shouldn't interfere with your decision making.

 

[TheLecher]

Was basically a cop out decision to make branching simpler.

Reducing branching is not a cop out. It's a valid and often necessary decision.

The fact that Morrigan took away the player's decision, as to who Ashe lost her virginity too...was a mistake.

Developers don't take away players' decisions. They give players decisions, when it suits them. If the player didn't have a choice, it's not because a choice was taken away from them, it's because it wasn't given to them, which is always the storyteller's prerogative.

Even when a developer gives a player a choice, the player is still choosing between options which were decided by the developer, with outcomes which were decided by the developer. The player never gets to opt out of a choice (unless they stop playing) or choose an option which wasn't already written into the story. Even the most open world game ever created still limits the players to what the developers have already decided would be included in the game. There is no possibility of ever avoiding this, except by not playing.

Maybe it would have been better to happen in the past (before the game starts), so people wouldn't complain they were forced to watch it with Zoey

There will always be people complaining about something in any game. It doesn't matter what a developer does, players complaining will always happen. For a developer to try to dodge complaints is a losing game. The best thing for a developer to do is to stick to the story they want to tell, and understand at the start that some people will complain about it.

 

[SerHawkes]

I mean it's a fair complaint not everyone likes to give it up quick and easy at least I don't. Especially because there is no choice. Doesn't matter to me if the MC is a virgin or not which is why LI that are easy to sleep with usually are near the bottom of my list until they prove to me they are a good character beyond being a easy fuck.

Why does it bother everyone so much that she had sex for the first time and with whom?
If there was a male MC in this game, no one would even whine about this!

Pretty much. People making it a 'big deal' that Ashe finally got laid is a laughable complaint to me. Sure, it would have been nice to hold out for someone special, but lets be real here: We would be waiting a while for that, specially given Ashe's mental state. Having it be someone who is a random currently, who she yet doesn't know, might help her down the road with her self confidence.

SerHawkes ... what is the point of having a player controlled character, who operates independently in important situations? If you are the character, you should be deciding everything. [related to your character]
And the game, quest, achievement system shouldn't interfere with your decision making.

You do realize that in most AVNs, specially story focused ones, you don't control everything. If that were the case, I can think of a number of characters in certain games I would kill off or not bother associating with. Ideally, sure, having a choice in such matters would be nice, but we are only four chapters in, with little to no actual sexual lewdity other than fan service and Ashe jerking off and the occational route dependant scene. We have yet to know the full impact of Ashe losing her dick virginity. Maybe in the long run it was worth it to lose it to a stranger at present who might turn into a lover.

 

[sbarabaus]

Yeah, Zoey felt very random especially because she wasn't an important character

I would've used Fiona, to create more drama if we go on other paths (postponing the scene if necessary)

But hey, as long.as the dev has an idea of where the story is going i'm on board

 

[Abaddon Doom]

Anyway, I'm flogging a dead horse...mig

Reducing branching is not a cop out. It's a valid and often necessary decision.



Developers don't take away players' decisions. They give players decisions, when it suits them. If the player didn't have a choice, it's not because a choice was taken away from them, it's because it wasn't given to them, which is always the storyteller's prerogative.

Even when a developer gives a player a choice, the player is still choosing between options which were decided by the developer, with outcomes which were decided by the developer. The player never gets to opt out of a choice (unless they stop playing) or choose an option which wasn't already written into the story. Even the most open world game ever created still limits the players to what the developers have already decided would be included in the game. There is no possibility of ever avoiding this, except by not playing.



There will always be people complaining about something in any game. It doesn't matter what a developer does, players complaining will always happen. For a developer to try to dodge complaints is a losing game. The best thing for a developer to do is to stick to the story they want to tell, and understand at the start that some people will complain about it.

So the message here is: DON'T COMPLAIN!

 

[sbarabaus]

Why does it bother everyone so much that she had sex for the first time and with whom?
If there was a male MC in this game, no one would even whine about this!

It doesn't bother me, but it bothered Ashe. The complaint is about how it was resolved