JM24

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Can already tell this is going to be the main point of discussion in this thread until the release of the next update lmao
Well bad news is better than no news. Morrigan would be more worried if no one is pushing the threads after the release.
 

doovel

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I just finished playing through the Siren path and it isn't even half as bad as some of you been saying. As a matter of fact I would even say it's a 7 or 8 out of 10 update (Siren path). You literally get so many more different contents than the Kitten path:

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So it's really nothing like what some of you have been making it look like. It's actually a very solid update.
Well I’ll bite, but it’s not gonna be pretty…

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Play the Siren path if you really want to see those scenes. Don't see how that's such a big deal.
I don't wamt to force myself to play a route that I don't care about. There is only one exclusive girl on another route that I want, but then I have to play something I am not interested in.
 
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doovel

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I want Ashe to give it to Fiona not the other way around like what the hell lol

So much for being "dominant" if you are forced to get railed and have no choice over it.
Yeah, that either means they’re a switch or just don’t have much experience with actual dom and subbing. Which is fine, just don‘t pretend it makes sense.

This was never implied in any of her scenes ever, in fact it was foreshadowed it would go exactly the opposite of that during the dream scene. That's your fault for making up a scenario that was never hinted at.
First of good futadom game in your sig.

I‘m also inclined to agree with you about Fiona, but it’s the part where you can’t either pump the brakes or tell her it’s not going to work that way. It’s fine if Fiona says she won’t do it. Just don’t force the player based on the choice of engaging with her sexually before. One shouldn’t lead to the other without some off ramps and negotiations.

Like just because I like a lady and we‘ve performed oral on each other. doesn't mean that I would think saying you want to fuck means she’ll grab her tools and peg me. There are some steps in between. And the answer would be a no in my case.
 

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What???? You mean to tell me the dominant route doesnt have dominant choices and somewhat its the players fault when it turns out its just another sub route in disguise with some extra flavor sprinkle on top lmao, like do you even hear yourselve dude lol
You can't be a top with every single character in the game brother. If a character is hinted at being a top and you want to uproot that and turn them into a sub, that's 100% your fault for having unreasonable expectations.

To be clear, if it was the other way around plenty of people that prefer Fiona topping (a thing that was heavily hinted at from being interested in Ashe's vag and not her dick + the dream sequence) would have been extra pissed off.
 

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Yeah, that either means they’re a switch or just don’t have much experience with actual dom and subbing. Which is fine, just don‘t pretend it makes sense.


First of good futadom game in your sig.

I‘m also inclined to agree with you about Fiona, but it’s the part where you can’t either pump the brakes or tell her it’s not going to work that way. It’s fine if Fiona says she won’t do it. Just don’t force the player based on the choice of engaging with her sexually before. One shouldn’t lead to the other without some off ramps and negotiations.

Like just because I like a lady and we‘ve performed oral on each other. doesn't mean that I would think saying you want to fuck means she’ll grab her tools and peg me. There are some steps in between. And the answer would be a no in my case.
Thanks, I like Jade.

Oh, if there's no choice then yeah I agree it shouldn't be forced on anyone.
 

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Yeah, that either means they’re a switch or just don’t have much experience with actual dom and subbing. Which is fine, just don‘t pretend it makes sense.


First of good futadom game in your sig.

I‘m also inclined to agree with you about Fiona, but it’s the part where you can’t either pump the brakes or tell her it’s not going to work that way. It’s fine if Fiona says she won’t do it. Just don’t force the player based on the choice of engaging with her sexually before. One shouldn’t lead to the other without some off ramps and negotiations.

Like just because I like a lady and we‘ve performed oral on each other. doesn't mean that I would think saying you want to fuck means she’ll grab her tools and peg me. There are some steps in between. And the answer would be a no in my case.
I think the difference is that I assume you are a guy and do not have a fully functional vagina unlike the protagonist of the story. Ashe has already shown that she enjoys using her female reproductive organs on more than one occasion.
 
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I think the difference is that I assume you are a guy and do not have a fully functional vagina unlike the protagonist of the story. Ashe has already shown that she enjoys using her female reproductive organs on more than one occasion.
You are correct on the former. But just because you enjoy using all your assets as a true futa, that doesn’t mean you will just let anyone who you are fucking also fuck you in the pussy.

Again the issue isn’t that Fiona wants that. The issue is you have no choice if you are already on her path. If the dev doesn’t want that for the story, just provide an off ramp and a few lines of dialogue and never speak of it again.

Not every character has to be dommed or topped, it is well within Fiona’s character that’s shown so far to only want to top. That should not mean that a handjob or 2 and some pussy eating escalates to being fucked in the pussy. I just want to be able to turn her down.
 
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Well I’ll bite, but it’s not gonna be pretty…
Not very convincing that to be honest.
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A lot of your complaints stem from you personal projection of how a "dominant" character should behave. At first you claimed you see no progression in Ashe's dom side. I took that as face value but when I personally played I instantly changed my opinion.
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There are no two identical leaves in the world. Likewise, there are no two identical people in the world, even if they have the same tendencies in bed. You can't use your own experience as the sole standard for everyone else.

Personal story about blackmail:
Again, there are no two identical leaves in the world. Different people react differently, even with similar traits and characters. Sometimes seemingly strong characters panic in sudden shock while meek personalities might show uncharacteristic resilience in predicament.
 

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I played the NTR route or the Cuckqueen route in 5.0, and I think it's great; all of the content and the dialogue is top quality. There were two scenes dedicated to the route, and both had good content. But to be honest, I expected more content in this update; it was about 5 months from the last, and when it ended, I felt like I was expecting more. I understand that the dev is working hard, but I think they should consider hiring people to do simple tasks to speed up development.
 

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You are correct on the former. But just because you enjoy using all your assets as a true futa, that doesn’t mean you will just let anyone who you are fucking also fuck you in the pussy.

Again the issue isn’t that Fiona wants that. The issue is you have no choice if you are already on her path. If the dev doesn’t want that for the story, just provide an off ramp and a few lines of dialogue and never speak of it again.

Not every character has to be dommed or topped, it is well within Fiona’s character that’s shown so far to only want to top. That should not mean that a handjob or 2 and some pussy eating escalates to being fucked in the pussy. I just want to be able to turn her down.
Fiona is her BBF, the person she trusts most outside of her sister and mother, and someone she can fool around with without feeling guilty, so why wouldn't she embrace her in the heat of the moment? Sometimes doms get tired and wants someone else take the lead.
 
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Fiona is her BBF, the person she trusts most outside of her sister and mother, and someone she can fool around with without feeling guilty, so why wouldn't she embrace her in the heat of the moment? Sometimes doms get tired and wants someone else take the lead.
there should still be a choice to be like "nah, i'm not ready for that yet" or something, even if it leads to no sex scene at all
 

JM24

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there should still be a choice to be like "nah, i'm not ready for that yet" or something, even if it leads to no sex scene at all
Ashe is a horny young adult duplo with an insatiable sex appetite, it would be out of character of her to say no in that exact moment. But I understand your frustration, there's always the skip button if you don't want to see it. It's just that to be in line with Ashe's character and the story that scene makes sense to happen.
 

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i'm just not a fan of having no control, same reason i'm not a fan of kinetic visual novels. Maybe this is just a me thing, but i like to become the character i play as, so when control is taken away it takes me out of the zone or whatever. I take back the "there should be a choice", this isn't my game the dev can do whatever, but it's not for me.
 

JM24

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i'm just not a fan of having no control, same reason i'm not a fan of kinetic visual novels. Maybe this is just a me thing, but i like to become the character i play as, so when control is taken away it takes me out of the zone or whatever. I take back the "there should be a choice", this isn't my game the dev can do whatever, but it's not for me.
Just curious, can you name some of the games that give you absolute control over everything?
 

MheaScD

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Just curious, can you name some of the games that give you absolute control over everything?
well obviously none as they are games, but I guess the ones I'm interested in give you control over what scenes you can see.
 

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Bold of you to assume the Siren path is dominant especially from what everyone has been saying about it :ROFLMAO:

They should rename the paths to sub, a little bit less sub but the same and cuck.

But jokes aside locking characters to an specific route seems a little odd to me gameplay wise, like imagine your favorite LI is only available on the cuck route lol that would suck big time specially since most people aren't cucks or like to play those sorts of routes in AVN.
Locking characters to certain route makes sense when you consider that you will have to make three variation for each. With the Total number of LI that number becomes too big to make something interesting, believable and interesting for each fast. Also not every one is at ease with every behavior in bed. Look at this thread for an IRL example.

To be transparent, I havent played the update yet. I plan to on the 29 when it becomes available on ITch.io.

I would also like to thank everyone that is still using the different spoiler functions and to not relaxe on their use just yet since the update is still not public.
 
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