Yeah no. Giving Natasha more leverage over Ashe is just dumb as revealing the blackmailer means revealing the blackmail.
That might be a path for a kitten Ashe but it wouldn't make any sense at all on the other 2 paths. Not to mention it's predicated on the idea that Natasha both wouldn't use that information against Ashe herself and that she'd actually care. I don't think Natasha views Ashe as her girl so much as she views her as her toy.
As for the greater discussion around why Ashe wouldn't want to go to the police think about what the blackmailer is threatening to leak. That Ashe is a duplo. What's going to happen when this blackmail case goes to court? It's going to come out in discovery that Ashe is a duplo and it will become public knowledge that the blackmailer is being charged for threatening to out her as one. If Ashe was willing to accept the fallout of going to the police over this then the blackmailer would have had no leverage against her to begin with.
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I think the Blue route is only sad if you personally don't like submission. I'm talking like Star Perphiery and Shattered levels of submissive bottom energy lol. Different Strokes, I'm glad there's enough varity for all sorts of play styles. Personally I think the Blue version of the Fiona scene is absolute KINO, I loved it way more than the Red version. I haven't played the Green route for the same reason as you, but now you've made me curious to check it out.
well tbf, her mother is pretty powerful, so Vanessa could've found some way to get Ashe's medical stuff through her.
My crazy wacky tinfoil hat theory is that Ms. X is the daughter of the driver that ran over ashes' other "Mentor".
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Red path Ashe should just outright go with your suggestion of rejecting any blackmailing and deal with the consequences. I agree that it would only work with blue path Ashe to use Natasha to find the blackmailer. But she would probably have to submit more to Natasha's will, but she likes getting dommed by Natasha, so what's the holdup?
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Normally id agree however it seems she wants nothing to do with her mother and distance her self as much as possible. To me it feels like if it wasn't for the money she would cut all contact with her mother no matter how powerful she is. So I doubt she would use her mother to get the medical information.
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I actually wouldn't mind this theory cause it could also shed some more light on Ashe's and Rachael's trauma and it can perhaps makes sense especially if the driver knew her other mother.
yeah i don't think it's her at all, just saying she is probably one of the few people who could find out Ashe's secret pretty easily if she wanted.
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I feel like one of the few misteps in the game is not making the stakes of being a Duplo as dire as it should be. In a world with lesbian dickgirls dicking one another, it doesn't really make much narrative sense that there would be some massive stigma with having one extra piece of equipment. The one thing they brought up was that one pop star that self-deletes due to shame, but that doesn't seem to be suffient motivation.
I feel like it would make much more sense if we saw roaming gangs of Duplo-phobes berating and assaulting (or worse) any Duplo they could find. Or you could have there be some sort of government/institutional discrimination against Duplo that makes life significant worse if they are exposed. This could also give the horny cop more to do than just make drug busts.
maybe i'm thinking of something else, but didn't it say duplos were kinda shunned because their lust makes them, like, mindless beasts or something?
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Honestly, it makes a lot more sense if you view it from the perspective of Ashe.
She's basically anxiety embodied into a nervous wreck of a human being, even slight persecution of what she is might be more than she would ever be willing to bear, on top of the fact that it's a secret she's been guarding from a very young age, even if it would have been a minor secret, due to the length of which she's been hiding it from people will inevitably have a large emotional impact on her.
We haven't really gotten much information outside of duplos being persecuted because they're viewed as basically sexual beasts with no control, that could manifest in some pretty severe persecution or it might not have, we simply don't know as the dev hasn't shown us or told us yet. That being said, the dev did say that they weren't that interested in making some sort of social commentary so we might not get much info on how severe it might be.
Regardless though, it's important enough for Ashe herself due to how she is as a person.
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Yeah they did say that at the beginning. I just wish it wasn't so vague. Fiona doesn't make much of a big deal about it so it hard to figure out what the actual normal societal baseline is.
That's a fair explanation for it. It would be interesting if a lot of anxiety about being exposed as a Duplo is mostly all in Ashe's head and not the actual objective reality of her society. I guess it'll just stay ambigious.
It's almost as if discrimination is as baseless and dumb as it is harmful.
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Yeah, it'll likely stay ambiguous. We only ever get Ashe's view on things and brief glimpses on how she feels about this so that's mainly what I'm basing my theory upon, and as you noted, Fiona didn't make a big deal out of it but she's also very much a laidback "dude-bro" type of personality so it's nearly impossible to glean anything from that.
I think the only better insight we get is if Vanessa's mother somehow makes remarks about duplos or someone around that level of societal influence.
But yeah, even so, what's inside Ashe's head is what counts for her, hence why I believe she's so incredibly fearful of people knowing about it.
it would make sense that she's scared of people bullying her for being "stupid" or something because she can only think with her loins, like with what you said in your spoiler. She could also be scared that someone could make a fake accusation against her, and she would be shunned a lot more because everyone would assume it's true given her duplo-ness.
Not for a condition that has historic precedence throughout presumably human history, there would be about as many takes on it as you find on any gender in antiquity, it would be silly to assume they were all negative. So yeah ultimately I do agree, you might find fringe nonsense(probably mostly online like it is our modern world), but actual society wide discrimination? From all corners? Nah.
It isn't very comparable to really anything we have in our current world in terms of societal upheaval I admit, its an additional gender but by that same metric, I am also taking the reasonable leap of logic by that by the turn of the modern age, that stuff would mostly be regulated to petty personal cruelties from the typical corners.
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Well, not just that, body image is a very powerful thing. Having a skewed body image can lead to an extreme amount of serious mental illnesses for example, so being 'different' in terms of your body can be a huge source of shame.
A close friend of mine took nearly 20 years to tell people that he was born with a third nipple. It's innocuous and most people wouldn't really realize unless they looked close, but nonetheless he was scared shitless that he would be treated worse or different because of it.