VN Ren'Py Eruption Imminent [v0.6.1] [MorriganRae]

[Karla Jean]

Iirc her name is Siri.
But I mean it must be someone near Venessa. Maybe he mother's bimbo girlfriend.

Its not ease there.

I'm just going with her because when the MC gets her text in the gym and goes to take the picture in the locker room the receptionist is kinda trying to hide she's using her phone.

 

[doovel]

Still could be a drone. Or getting CCTV feeds.

The first one would be more likely. A CCTV cam aimed at their pool is less likely, but certainly within the realm of possibilities.

In my opinion Ashe was talking the day after with mrs X

But how was Vanessa texting Ashe during the date then? And somehow Vanessa needed to have signal where Ashe didn't?

It really does seem like an alternate reality.

Yeah I've gone through that route at the request of someone on this forum. It really changes the personality of a few characters, only one who seems the same is Zoey. Lexi is suddenly waaaaay more slutty, unless she really is just that slutty and Ashe isn't special at all to her.

 

[kialera]

I'm playing the cuckquean route and I know it's supposed to be ambiguous whether something happened between Natasha and Rachel, but I just wonder if we'll ever get an explicit confirmation either way.

 

[Ciaran8023]

I'm playing the cuckquean route and I know it's supposed to be ambiguous whether something happened between Natasha and Rachel, but I just wonder if we'll ever get an explicit confirmation either way.

Most likely yeah, would make no sense to not get any confirmation given that the route is basically entirely about shit like that. Most likely next update/scene with her will have her sending pics to Ashe since it fits her behaviour to do so.

 

[Solomon Grundy]

I 100% expected Natasha to send a pic of Rachel w/her mouth full of giant cock when she answered Rachel's phone and Ashe asked why Rachel didn't answer it.

 

[gregers]

I'm playing the cuckquean route and I know it's supposed to be ambiguous whether something happened between Natasha and Rachel, but I just wonder if we'll ever get an explicit confirmation either way.

Most likely yeah, would make no sense to not get any confirmation given that the route is basically entirely about shit like that. Most likely next update/scene with her will have her sending pics to Ashe since it fits her behaviour to do so.

I 100% expected Natasha to send a pic of Rachel w/her mouth full of giant cock when she answered Rachel's phone and Ashe asked why Rachel didn't answer it.

It's not my kink and I don't play that path, but I believe that for some people into that kink, the uncertainty and fear of what might be going on with a loved one is as much a part of it as actually seeing it happen. Very likely there'll be a confirmation/confrontation eventually, but I understand that some people get off on the frisson of suspecting without knowing, at least for a while.


As others have remarked above, it's probably best to think of the cuck path as an alternate universe, the Rachels, Zoeys, Evelyns etc. of that reality being fundamentally different people that the ones you encounter on e.g. the siren path.

That's often the case with games with both NTR and non-NTR paths, I find, and can sometimes lead to tensions in cross-over scenes shared between the two 'realities', if the characters come across in a way that seems to fit one path better than the other. I don't think it's a major issue here yet.

 

[manscout]

I enjoyed the game a lot, but oof, really not into the whole route split stuff. Specially after looking under the hood a lot of content is just made inaccessible for virtually no reason when you are forced to pick.

Enjoyed dom dynamics with character A and sub dynamics with character B? Too bad, you are now either a siren or a kitten and you need to go with the specific assigned version of every relationship and every scene.

Not interested in pairing up the MC with a certain character for story reasons but would enjoy seeing them featured in more sexual content even with other characters? Well too bad, it is an all or nothing cuck route. If you take the cuck route you get excluded from most potential relationships, if you don't take the cuck-route you need to gobble up every character into the MC's harem or say goodbye to ever seeing them in a sexy scenario again.

I know having set routes can make it easier to organize the game's writing, but at least so far I'm not seeing any advantages to the route-setting choice over the old "opt-in/opt-out" system the game had early on. If you were overwhelmingly submissive the game would start auto-picking sub route choices, if you were overwhelmingly dominant it would start auto-picking dom route choices, and if you were in the middle threshold you'd get to choose for the routes where both options were possible.

The cuck choices were also pretty telegraphed so I don't think it was warranted to quarantine all of them to a single route where you are forced to only have them (specially since they range from completely harmless to fairly brutal).

Splitting the routes only made me less excited about playing the game because now I know I'm getting locked out of content I was looking forward to, the game's writing and characters were solid enough that I was excited about potential developments in all 3 directions, and now I know you can't mix them during your playthrough.

I know there is no such thing as a "canon" route, but at least as far as it came to Ashe's development in the early chapters, I feel like you can't fully excise from her character some elements of her "kitten" persona (because introvert and traumatized) and "cuckqueen" persona (because insecure pornfiend). But being saddled with those issues are what made the "siren" moments all the more precious, because it was Ashe standing up at the moments where the player decided it really mattered. By splitting the routes, the dynamic is either made worse or at the very least removed from the player's control.

 

[TheGreySun]

As others have remarked above, it's probably best to think of the cuck path as an alternate universe, the Rachels, Zoeys, Evelyns etc. of that reality being fundamentally different people that the ones you encounter on e.g. the siren path.

That's often the case with games with both NTR and non-NTR paths, I find, and can sometimes lead to tensions in cross-over scenes shared between the two 'realities', if the characters come across in a way that seems to fit one path better than the other. I don't think it's a major issue here yet.

If there Was going to be an in universe explination, it would probably be the drug right? like CQ is a world where the Mom was drugged "small dose" at the book club, then a bigger dose on the date, Lexi could have found Victoria's stash and taken one out of curiosity, and Rachel Could have been asked to Take it by Nat because "she isn't responsible" for what she does under the influince, which is Def her MO when it comes to Ashe considering it took a year for her to admit any fault in the first place.

so CQ could just be "Drug World" lol

 

[venem0re]

I'm surprised how well "kitten" and "cuckqueen" paths are written. The whole thing between Natasha and Rachel? Those subtle hints of what really happened between those two? Whew! And "kitten" is exactly what you would expect from it. Though I do wish that the "siren" route will be more fleshed out in the future. Ashe, as a character, is simply not there yet to be considered as someone who can be on top, definitely not psychologically. Honestly I would rather prefer if the "kitten" could turn into the "siren" as the story goes on. She needs more experience and probably someone who would slap her out of those never-ending insecurites. An interesting addition to the plot I'd say. I mean, it could even work with the "cuckqueen", but that'll require way too much effort in terms of storytelling, at least in my opinion.
So, yeah, came for the smut - stayed for the plot. Excited for the next episode!

 

[Karla Jean]

It's not my kink and I don't play that path, but I believe that for some people into that kink, the uncertainty and fear of what might be going on with a loved one is as much a part of it as actually seeing it happen. Very likely there'll be a confirmation/confrontation eventually, but I understand that some people get off on the frisson of suspecting without knowing, at least for a while.


As others have remarked above, it's probably best to think of the cuck path as an alternate universe, the Rachels, Zoeys, Evelyns etc. of that reality being fundamentally different people that the ones you encounter on e.g. the siren path.

That's often the case with games with both NTR and non-NTR paths, I find, and can sometimes lead to tensions in cross-over scenes shared between the two 'realities', if the characters come across in a way that seems to fit one path better than the other. I don't think it's a major issue here yet.

I think it'll be Ashe's insecurity and constantly questioning her sister and worrying that's going to push Rachel to actually let her guard down and fuck Natasha.

 

[MheaScD]

I think i just remembered something, unless it was another game, but doesn't it mention something about a "divinity" class and demons? If this game has some supernatural stuff then it probably is possible for Ashe to become a dom over night

 

[Hungover00]

I think i just remembered something, unless it was another game, but doesn't it mention something about a "divinity" class and demons? If this game has some supernatural stuff then it probably is possible for Ashe to become a dom over night

Don't think it's this game, friend.

 

[MheaScD]

Don't think it's this game, friend.

it is, i just went through it again. It's after Ashe tells Fiona, the latter says the only thing she knows about duplos is from the internet or something and whatever they were taught in divinity class, that supposedly duplos are descendants of demonkind. It's like the only mention of anything like that i think.

 

[Hungover00]

it is, i just went through it again. It's after Ashe tells Fiona, the latter says the only thing she knows about duplos is from the internet or something and whatever they were taught in divinity class, that supposedly duplos are descendants of demonkind. It's like the only mention of anything like that i think.

Ah, gotcha. So an alt-world Fundie conspiracy, like the Satanic Panic. That's rather depressing.

I think I focused on the 'supernatural' part more, as I don't think there's been any hint of it so far in game. Mea culpa.

 

[Ciaran8023]

it is, i just went through it again. It's after Ashe tells Fiona, the latter says the only thing she knows about duplos is from the internet or something and whatever they were taught in divinity class, that supposedly duplos are descendants of demonkind. It's like the only mention of anything like that i think.

I had forgotten about that until you mentioned it, that does give a bit more meat on the bones on the level of persecution and general consensus regarding duplos I think. It's hard to gauge how widespread it is given that we don't really have much information on the rest of the world, but since it's tied to some form of religious view, it's likely to be fairly substantial I'd wager.

The main crux of Ashe's fears is of course rooted in what's going on in her head and with her trauma, but this does give more of an explanation as to how much she fears her secret coming out.

 

[manscout]

Sorry to insist on this issue, but wow I'm convinced the decision to hard-split the routes was just a terrible call. The only part of the game that felt meaningfully altered by it was the Natasha event, and that one couldn't go wrong since the entire supposed "route split" was designed around that decision.

For the rest of it you mostly only get occasional minor dialogue changes and extra arbitrary restrictions to your choices of what sex positions a scene will feature. And that's the best case scenario, instead of a scene getting quartered just to force a 3-way split.

Here's a review of what the route split does to the last scene with Fiona:

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Unless they are going to make a much bigger effort in making the 3 separate routes feel like unique stories, I would sincerely hope the devs go back to the old system. Right now it would take only a little effort to mod the old design back into the game, either by restoring functionality to the "dommescore" and "cuckscore" variables or by simply removing the route/score restrictions because their contribution to the game is very little positive, if not even negative in how it forces certain scenes to be split instead of keeping all the best bits in one piece. It is not like it would matter much since the devs are still keeping track of most individual decisions anyway (e.g even in the "kitten" route you can make Natasha an enemy instead of submitting to her, so what is the point of having the route-split if it doesn't help standardize even the plotline that spawned the route-split?)

 

[Ciaran8023]

Sorry to insist on this issue, but wow I'm convinced the decision to hard-split the routes was just a terrible call. The only part of the game that felt meaningfully altered by it was the Natasha event, and that one couldn't go wrong since the entire supposed "route split" was designed around that decision.

For the rest of it you mostly only get occasional minor dialogue changes and extra arbitrary restrictions to your choices of what sex positions a scene will feature. And that's the best case scenario, instead of a scene getting quartered just to force a 3-way split.

Here's a review of what the route split does to the last scene with Fiona:

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Unless they are going to make a much bigger effort in making the 3 separate routes feel like unique stories with, I would sincerely hope the devs go back to the old system. Right now it would take only a little effort to mod the old design back into the game, either by restoring functionality to the "dommescore" and "cuckscore" variables or by simply removing the route/score restrictions because their contribution to the game is very little positive, if not even negative in how it forces certain scenes to be split instead of keeping all the best bits in one piece. It is not like it would matter much since the devs are still keeping track of most individual decisions anyway (e.g even in the "kitten" route you can make Natasha an enemy instead of submitting to her, so what is the point of having the route-split if it doesn't help standardize even the plotline that spawned the route-split?)

I kind of have to agree with this, I've noted it when the previous update hit but I really don't see much benefit for a 3-split storytelling. It doesn't actually reduce the branching by any meaningful amount, nor does it enhance the storytelling either as you outlined quite well.

It just feels like a bit of weird implementation and it's at the point where I can't even see what the correct implementation would look like either.

 

[Jafo]

But how was Vanessa texting Ashe during the date then? And somehow Vanessa needed to have signal where Ashe didn't?

I played the scene back to find out that the buttplug started to buzz while Vanessa was sitting next to Ashe. So indeed no Vanessa. But shit, who than???

 

[Hungover00]

I played the scene back to find out that the buttplug started to buzz while Vanessa was sitting next to Ashe. So indeed no Vanessa. But shit, who than???

Only mentioned so far, but Victoria, Kate's wife, seems like a possibility to me. Delilah seems to be involved, and who could recruit her more easily than her mother? Ashe lost her virginity in her and Kate's bedroom. She's successful enough to have the resources, is a family friend, and could be trying to help Ashe, get back at her for fooling around with Kate (thinner possibility), push Ashe so she becomes available for Delilah, or she might have it in mind to take Ashe for herself, when she comes back.

I'm not sure if it's probable that it's her, but it's possible, and her being a named character but so far relatively unknown leaves a lot of room for the dev to position her.

 

[returner]

I have to agree with manscout here. The voyeur path is just an offshoot of the submissive path. Having three routes just for the sake of it doesn't make sense.
The 'sub' path has better dialog and encounters. For example, Ashe/MC spying on Lexi while Rachel working at Natasha's place doesn't add to MC's character. Which makes the path more passive than it needs to be, what good is the path if you can't even go out with the ones you like? or is that the whole point of the path - that MC is a passive person who is content watching others having encounters.
MorriganRae I need your opinion here.
Also, what kind of route would Ashe have taken naturally if you didn't have to accommodate for three different routes?