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Personally, I'm not attracted to Kate at all, but I decided to follow her route to increase Ashe's level of sluttiness, and I also want to see how angry Fiona would be about that.
yeah im not attracted to any of the Milfs other than Ashe's former teacher. I will play those paths on separate saves but that's just to see it.
 
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yeah im not attracted to any of the Milfs other than Ashe's former teacher. I will play those paths on separate saves but that's just to see it.
I concur, the teacher is hot, so far the only other Milf that appeals to me would be Moira, I would love to see what kind of perversions the lady mayor would do to Ashe, maybe even turn Ashe into her new Bimbo girlfriend. (I just hope she doesn't give her Botox, the only thing I don't like about Bimbos are those ridiculous lips).
 
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On pointing to the blackmailer issue:

Don't forget it's interactive game. It's already going into 3 divergent paths.

If creator would like to bait us or feed us properly with multifacet red herrings and shit, natural decision would be to point in 3 different directions.

Just imagine that in Kitten route the big reveal could point to someone else than in Cuckquean route or Siren. We could get 3 distinctively different blackmailers, depending on our game style choice.

Perhaps in the alpha route Delilah would become the blackmailer and ultimate showdown will be concluded in serious duplo-dicking and bitch-slapping her with futa-cock for her misbehaviour and/or finishing love route with her. But in other scenarios, when playing sexually passive Ashe, someone more dominant could fill that role. Because why not?

Overcoming the blackmail should serve some story purposes anyway, perhaps even accepting sexual roles Ashe takes through the game, so blackmailer persona could be a catalyst tied-in with these choices. This way more gamers' suspicions could turn out true. ;)

On new update:

Yay, I'm bought. Cuckquen future looks especially bright:
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On pointing to the blackmailer issue:

Don't forget it's interactive game. It's already going into 3 divergent paths.

If creator would like to bait us or feed us properly with multifacet red herrings and shit, natural decision would be to point in 3 different directions.

Just imagine that in Kitten route the big reveal could point to someone else than in Cuckquean route or Siren. We could get 3 distinctively different blackmailers, depending on our game style choice.

Perhaps in the alpha route Delilah would become the blackmailer and ultimate showdown will be concluded in serious duplo-dicking and bitch-slapping her with futa-cock for her misbehaviour and/or finishing love route with her. But in other scenarios, when playing sexually passive Ashe, someone more dominant could fill that role. Because why not?

Overcoming the blackmail should serve some story purposes anyway, perhaps even accepting sexual roles Ashe takes through the game, so blackmailer persona could be a catalyst tied-in with these choices. This way more gamers' suspicions could turn out true. ;)

On new update:

Yay, I'm bought. Cuckquen future looks especially bright:
IIRC the dev initially made this 3 branch approach to avoid having to deal with more "branches" so it seems exceedingly unlikely that there will be 3 different blackmailers.
What I am anticipating is an event that makes sense for the Kitten route but feels contrived or almost forced for either of the other routes, as it seems like the Kitten route is the "canon" route for Ashe.

I also have a sneaking suspicion that the 'resolution' of the blackmail arc won't be especially satisfying given what Ashe has gone through at the hands of the blackmailer, but that's just me extrapolating from how the game has unfolded thus far so it's more like a working theory.
 

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I suspect the Kitten route is getting more attention because it's the most popular. When I was a supporter, Fiona and RapeCop were the most popular characters—and probably still are.

That said, I play the Siren route, which was still pretty good. I have fuck all interest in Fiona or Ashe being bottomed, so that I don't get that scene suits me perfectly. Fiona is written as a top, so why people expected anything else is beyond me.
 

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I suspect the Kitten route is getting more attention because it's the most popular. When I was a supporter, Fiona and RapeCop were the most popular characters—and probably still are.

That said, I play the Siren route, which was still pretty good. I have fuck all interest in Fiona or Ashe being bottomed, so that I don't get that scene suits me perfectly. Fiona is written as a top, so why people expected anything else is beyond me.
Not sure about most popular, it's the most "vanilla" out of them as in it doesn't cater to a specific fetish or outlook like Siren or the CQ route does, but I also just think that the dev has a specific vision for each of the characters and Kitten is just the 'default' of that vision.

Also yeah, I've always viewed Fiona as being written as a friendly 'dude-bro' type of character that's definitely geared towards being a top. I mean she's basically a gender-twisted variant of every MC's best friend in these types of games, maybe a bit more feminine but definitely still someone who'd absolutely talk about tits and ass at any given moment should the opportunity present itself.
 

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the kitten route "feels" likeits the author-intended canon route, with the siren route been a slight deviation of it. this two routs seem to incorporate what ashe is capable of in that world, with a bias toward the kitten route.

the cuck route just seems to sting out like a sour thumb, all the chars have a totally different personality and ashe behaves completly different. feels like an afterthough
 

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Not sure about most popular, it's the most "vanilla" out of them as in it doesn't cater to a specific fetish or outlook like Siren or the CQ route does, but I also just think that the dev has a specific vision for each of the characters and Kitten is just the 'default' of that vision.

Also yeah, I've always viewed Fiona as being written as a friendly 'dude-bro' type of character that's definitely geared towards being a top. I mean she's basically a gender-twisted variant of every MC's best friend in these types of games, maybe a bit more feminine but definitely still someone who'd absolutely talk about tits and ass at any given moment should the opportunity present itself.
Submissive isn't a fetish or sexual outlook?
 

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Submissive isn't a fetish or sexual outlook?
I view the Kitten route as not a sexual type of submissiveness, but one stemming from anxiety issues and a natural avoidance of confrontation, meaning that she doesn't actually get off from the act of being submissive but moreso the sexual situations she finds herself in if that makes sense and she doesn't have the experience or courage to be more 'active'.

If she was submissive in a fetishistic sense then she wouldn't have taken charge when it came to Zoey for example. Of course this is just how I percieve things, but it makes more sense than saying that the Kitten route is centered around a sexual outlook on submissiveness.

EDIT- also yes, submissiveness can absolutely be a fetish or a complete sexual outlook, just figured I'd point out that I'm not disagreeing with what you're saying - but simply that I don't feel like that specific fetish is what the Kitten route revolves around.
 
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Does anybody know where the preview Pic 6 is taken from? I am playing the kitten route as well as the cuck route and I don't recall seing Ashe in a submissive pose like that.

Could you please tell me what scene that is and how to get there?

Thank you kindly!

Edit: same with pic 15. Looks like the cuck route to me. But I also seem to have missed that scene.
 

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Does anybody know where the preview Pic 6 is taken from? I am playing the kitten route as well as the cuck route and I don't recall seing Ashe in a submissive pose like that.

Could you please tell me what scene that is and how to get there?

Thank you kindly!

Edit: same with pic 15. Looks like the cuck route to me. But I also seem to have missed that scene.
Both of those are just early game renders, pic 6 you can't miss, you just forgot about it, it is just a part of the scene where Ashe is in her room feeling embarassed that her mom caught her masturbating in the living room in day 2.

Pic 15 is part of the scene if you chose the gangbang porn as what Ashe chose to watch on day 2.
 
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Fiona definitely leans towards being portrayed as a top, I just wouldn't say her dynamics with Ashe are a certainty that she will be an exclusive top. I see no reason so far why some ocasional switching couldn't happen, but I guess it still remains to be seen if that will pan out since there have been no scenes so far where Fiona was focused on servicing Ashe's cock (no indication she is in anyway grossed out by it, but she hasn't really given it any personal attention yet). But I stand that it is still too early in the story to take anything conclusive from that.

I feel the two main hooks of the early game are the incest relationships and the relationship with Fiona. The first are more geared for a "siren" playthrough while the latter is more geared for a "kitten" playthrough, but not in a mutually exclusive way imo and I like both, so I'd really hate to see the game make it impossible to enjoy both dynamics and also worsen the content for both routes because of route-split BS.
 

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Both of those are just early game renders, pic 6 you can't miss, you just forgot about it, it is just a part of the scene where Ashe is in her room feeling embarassed that her mom caught her masturbating in the living room in day 2.

Pic 15 is part of the scene if you chose the gangbang porn as what Ashe chose to watch on day 2.
Thx a lot mate! Man, day 2 seems centuries ago... Might go back to check it out again :) The VN is still worth it.
 

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Not sure about most popular, it's the most "vanilla" out of them as in it doesn't cater to a specific fetish or outlook like Siren or the CQ route does, but I also just think that the dev has a specific vision for each of the characters and Kitten is just the 'default' of that vision.

Also yeah, I've always viewed Fiona as being written as a friendly 'dude-bro' type of character that's definitely geared towards being a top. I mean she's basically a gender-twisted variant of every MC's best friend in these types of games, maybe a bit more feminine but definitely still someone who'd absolutely talk about tits and ass at any given moment should the opportunity present itself.
Well, let me put it this way ... the way the render requests are set up, if RapeCop is done one time, it's Fiona the next. And then RapeCop again. So for someone like me that likes who I see as the actual LIs of the game, like Evelyn, Rachel, Vanessa, etc, there's no real point in being a supporter. I get shouted down each time.
 
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IIRC the dev initially made this 3 branch approach to avoid having to deal with more "branches" so it seems exceedingly unlikely that there will be 3 different blackmailers.
But still, it is possible. And if nobody expects that, I guess that gives the game more surprise potential and adds something to replayability. It would be wasted potential, if in every 3 routes blackmail would be executed almost in the same manner.

Ashe-Siren may bother other party than Ashe-Kitten or Cuck-Ashe from story point of view. It would be fun to speculate some more, and suspect's reasoning would get extra layer for motivation. "Dare requests" could be different, depending on active alpha dick/passive beta pussy preference. Right now dare requests are mixed: put plug in your ass (passive), try to fuck Vanessa (active). Blackmailer can try to veer Ashe from or towards being dominant or submissive.

Besides, "3 blackmailers theory" has that nice ring to JFK second shooter debate.:p It would be fun to ramp up some more conspiracy thinking in duplo discrimination plot.
I also have a sneaking suspicion that the 'resolution' of the blackmail arc won't be especially satisfying given what Ashe has gone through at the hands of the blackmailer, but that's just me extrapolating from how the game has unfolded thus far so it's more like a working theory.
Well, that's up to original creator. It can be satisfying or inconsequential or maybe it's gonna ignite chain of events which will segway into something memorable. We don't know if blackmail creates main brackets of the story or is just an introduction and main arc didn't started yet or is only barely brushed in Ashe's dream sequences.
 

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Fiona definitely leans towards being portrayed as a top, I just wouldn't say her dynamics with Ashe are a certainty that she will be an exclusive top. I see no reason so far why some ocasional switching couldn't happen, but I guess it still remains to be seen if that will pan out since there have been no scenes so far where Fiona was focused on servicing Ashe's cock (no indication she is in anyway grossed out by it, but she hasn't really given it any personal attention yet). But I stand that it is still too early in the story to take anything conclusive from that.

I feel the two main hooks of the early game are the incest relationships and the relationship with Fiona. The first are more geared for a "siren" playthrough while the latter is more geared for a "kitten" playthrough, but not in a mutually exclusive way imo and I like both, so I'd really hate to see the game make it impossible to enjoy both dynamics and also worsen the content for both routes because of route-split BS.
I feel like the dream Ashe has with her and Fiona as fantasy characters is a tease that Ashe will fuck Fiona and she will end up liking it
 

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I feel like the dream Ashe has with her and Fiona as fantasy characters is a tease that Ashe will fuck Fiona and she will end up liking it
I mean, I'm not saying that you shouldn't get your hopes up, but I think I can count the amount of games that have used fantasies as a tease for future content on one hand, and I've been playing AVN's for years.
I definitely wouldn't say that it's in any way a sure thing, so you should probably not expect it solely from that.
 
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